Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18534634)

So wealth is an infinite thing? I somehow doubt it would be possibly for ever person on the planet to possess 10 million dollars each. At some point, it doesn't work. Your neighbor having a billion dollars doesn't make you poor but the success of facebook for example, made myspace poor. Consumer spending can change directions, can't it? People will sell stocks from one company and invest in another. Wealth is not being created there, just re-directed, isn't it?

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18533967)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party

"The Boston Tea Party was a key event in the growth of the American Revolution. "

Originally Posted by NYRangers (Post 18535288)

I just stopped in my tracks. Do you truly believe that Myspace became what it is today because of Facebook?

Why is it always the fault of someone or something else? That's the mentality that so many people in the US have and is why they themselves are doomed to go nowhere.

Decisions by the people running MySpace caused it to be what it is today. Plain and simple.

Originally Posted by DJ The Kid (Post 18535178)

Also, I think the occupy movement rightly puts the focus on the economic institutions rather than on the politicians who are merely their lackeys.

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18533965)

continue to break the law and clash with police.
shutting down the port to teach those 1%ers working at the port, driving trucks, etc. who's boss.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/02...get-busy-port/



keep up the good work guys:thumbsup

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 18535297)

The Boston Tea Party fought corrupt government.

OWS IS corrupt government. OWS wants more power for corrupt government. OWS is backed by the White House, ACORN, and George Soros. OWS is our corrupt government lashing out against its own people. It always wants more, more, more.

Originally Posted by Shotsie (Post 18535373)

THE founding fathers were paranoid hypocrites and ungrateful malcontents. What was their cherished Declaration of Independence but empty political posturing? They groaned about the burden of taxation, but it was the English who were shouldering the real burden, paying taxes on everything from property to beer, from soap to candles, tobacco, paper, leather and beeswax. The notorious tea tax, which had so inflamed the people of Massachusetts, was only one-fourth of what the English paid at home; even Benjamin Franklin labeled the Boston Tea Party an act of piracy. Meanwhile, smugglers, with the full connivance of the colonists, were getting rich at the expense of honest tax-paying citizens. The recent French and Indian War had doubled Britain's national debt, but the Americans, who were the most immediate beneficiaries, were refusing to contribute their fair share.

The revolutionaries complained about a lack of representation in Parliament, but in this they were no different from the majority of Englishmen. What was more, the God-given or nature-given rights they claimed for themselves included the right to hold Africans in bondage. Edward Gibbon, who knew something about the ups and downs of history, opposed the rebels from the House of Commons. Samuel Johnson called them ''a race of convicts'' who ''ought to be thankful for any thing we allow them short of hanginng"





History belongs to the victors.....

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18535337)

I think it's the other way around. The politicians are in control and have done a great job over the years of convincing us that they are just poor innocent sidekicks.

But even IF you believe that the govt. isn't all powerful...then I still say that there couldn't be ANY corruption if our politicians weren't the ones being paid off!

Think about that for a second. IF the politicians weren't "on the take" (in other words: CROOKS) then the "evil" companies wouldn't be able to "pay them off".

And just looking at the "BailOuts" that happened...it sure looked to me like the big companies were BROKE. And then the POLITICIANS funneled money to them. (which in the end comes back to the politicians under the table)

You see...I can completely understand why anyone (including you) would take a job as a CEO of a big corporation. They get paid millions of dollars right up front. Very transparent.

But I have to ask myself...and any of you who are serious thinkers do too...WHY on Earth would anybody spend millions of dollars to get elected to a low paying govt. job?
Is it because they are selfless human beings who just want to "serve" the public?

You know better than that.

At least the CEO of a corporation is a known commodity. His job is to MAKE MONEY.

Politicians? It's all hidden and uses OUR MONEY to give them power and glory.

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18534048)

I wonder why they all focused in on 30 people causing problems and not the other 3000? Maybe to twist the truth a little?

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18534073)

no one on GFY is really in the 1%, no matter how hard they wish they were.:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Shotsie (Post 18535373)

History belongs to the victors.....

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18535401)

Actually, there are plenty. $360,000 or something a year puts you in 1%.

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18534082)

some of us identify with the rabble, some of us don't.

It all depends on your station in life.

so far, a tiny group of people refer to themselves as the 99%
What you guys fail to realize is that most of us are not the 99%. The protesters saying it doesn't make it true.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18535406)

Thanks Capt. Obvious for pointing out what everybody already knows.

It's all relative to where you are standing.
To the USA, George Washington is a patriot and a hero and a (dare I say the word...) "freedom fighter"
To the British in 1776, he was a traitor and a (dare I say the word) "terrorist"
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From where the "average" guy in America is standing...some of the OWS comes off as a bunch of "liberal" babies crying.
From where the OWS prostesters are standing, they are patriots and a voice for the common man.
From where the Democratic Party is standing, they are a potential God-Send in getting their apathetic base to wake up in time for the election.

And from where you are standing...you think you're the only guy who ever cracked a history book or went to college.

Originally Posted by Shotsie (Post 18535446)

What exactly is the "rabble"? Honest, hard-working people that do their job everyday for a humble salary? By your definition teachers, nurses, construction workers, engineers, truck drivers, butchers, bakers, and fuckin' candlestick makers are all "rabble" or "lemmings", which probably includes most of your friends and relatives.


living in a McMansion in Williamstown or Washington Township and renting a condo in Ocean City, Avalon or North Wildwood during the summer doesn't make you an elite. I'm pretty sure Pine Valley Golf Club ain't sending you an invitation to play the course anytime soon. No, you gotta go down the street to the public course they built where action mountain used to be or over to Valleybrook. Please, when you get done posting here you're probably over at Reggie's(I refuse to call it Skeeter's pub), Adelphia's or the Piccalilli drinking with the "rabble".

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18535566)

Amazing the bitterness of the envious.
I'll chalk it up to the boss being mean to you.:1orglaugh
No son, the rabble are NOT the hard working men and women of this country. They're the trash that 'occupies' and wants their loans forgiven and wants to be handed what others have worked for. It's trash like you, marketsmart. :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18534764)

So you honestly don't realize that economies grow and that wealth is created?

So, lets think here... here si the growth of income per capita in India.

How do you think that is happening? By Indians in the city stealing money from peasants outside the city?

http://www.economicshelp.org/indian/india-growth.gif

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18534294)

How do you justify the average CEO salary being 335 times that of an average employee? Just in 1998 it was about half that. If things continue to go this way, we'll eventually see the average CEO making 1000 times what the average worker does.

As for the 'anyone can get rich' idea.. sure in theory but just about all of those hugely successful people have some kind ot catalytic event that propels them towards success and without, most likely would never of achieved such success. It could come from a connection that person just happens to have vs another person with the exact same idea who didn't have that connection. Guess who will be successful? Or like the guy who was lucky enough to get a relative to lend him 100k of capital vs the guy who has no one to lend him capital, etc etc etc.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18535406)

I would have thought that more people would have known that. But I guess if none of them actually make any money to speak of it wouldn't have occurred to them.

The "99%" name is catchy. That's why it caught on. But you're right...it's factually not a real representation of what they are protesting.
I'm not even sure if theoretically they are protesting "rich people" at all.

Aren't they really against banks and big corps who fucked over the economy with back door deals gone bad?

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18533997)

most damning of all:
"MC Hammer Joins Occupy Oakland Protests"
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowll...rotests_b44029

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18535980)

Originally Posted by boneprone (Post 18536017)

If I was single and didn't have kids id be down there in oakland with my peeps breaking shit. Looks like a lot of fun really.

In reality a lot of these people have no idea why they are angry. Occupy peeps or Tea Party Peeps. There are boneheads on both sides. Some have good points but most of these people are just fucktards..

But there is nothing wrong with being a fucktard. It can be fun.. Ive been one most my life. Now I'm a 1%er.. But I'm still a fucktard at heart..

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18533965)

continue to break the law and clash with police.
shutting down the port to teach those 1%ers working at the port, driving trucks, etc. who's boss.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/02...get-busy-port/



keep up the good work guys:thumbsup

Originally Posted by NYRangers (Post 18535288)

I just stopped in my tracks. Do you truly believe that Myspace became what it is today because of Facebook?

Why is it always the fault of someone or something else? That's the mentality that so many people in the US have and is why they themselves are doomed to go nowhere.

Decisions by the people running MySpace caused it to be what it is today. Plain and simple.

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 18535968)

The stockholders set the pay.

Why are you so worried about what other people are making?

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 18536224)

It is 6:37 am on the jersey time.... wakey wakey, time for some roofing

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18536343)

The growing gap between ceo pay and the average workers pay represents the growing gap between the rich and the 'middle' class. Which is growing very fast and increasing almost yearly.

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18536343)

The growing gap between ceo pay and the average workers pay represents the growing gap between the rich and the 'middle' class. Which is growing very fast and increasing almost yearly.

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18536461)

i think there is still some confusion as to who the 1% club actually is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockefeller_family
here are some members.

no one in the industry belongs...not even ron from ccbill makes enough...sorry but