Give it to next year at the venetian.. :)

LOL -- funny stuff!!


But ya, my personal take on Kiko is she is a fake bitch. lol, she had a live appearance here in San Diego not too long ago and had something like 300 people say they were going to show up -but NOBODY went to go see her. :1orglaugh

She has always had an "I am better than you" attitude. Its easy to see in how she talks to people. Go check out some of her yahoo groups if they are still up.

She never did impress me. Not in the brains or body department. I like for my girls tits to move when they jump.

Hmm, interesting. So, in the interests of protecting all those naive 25 year old and younger women, do you think the age of consent should be raised to 25? I mean, they're all immature morons that can't possibly think for themselves!

I'm sorry, but you're an idiot.

If i were a woman, i think i'd be more offended by your attitude towards women, than seeing some pornstar gobble on some cock.

since the shit went down on Firehorse and my board - Im gonna add my 2 cents worth..

the TRUE morons I saw today were all the little "followers" who came over from GFY and signed up just so they could stir shit in a fight that wansnt even theirs

..lame..


as for the easton and Kiko Fight - i take no sides.. I just locked the thread instead.

Others should follow lead.

I agree.
Kiko's attitude is totally unprofessional, she's the one who lost...

Hmm, i disagree! I think it's one of the most important arguements in this industry. Someone always wants to draw a moral line based on what they believe, obviously not realising the hypocrisy of the situation!

Btw, i've been meaning to signup for your forum for quite a while after talking to firehorse on ICQ, i just never got around to it. Figured i'd jump in and reply to that thread seeing as it was brought to my attention here on GFY. But hey, you can delete my account if you like.

KikoWu is a gangster!

chodadog, I have no problem with Kiko or Easton. I know a bit more about them than a lot of people who have posted on or viewed the piss thread.

All the drama went down while we were in town. We won't delete your account, if you are happy to post then you will, if not then you won't.

My primary concern is looking after the people who are happy to post at our board and making that experience as enjoyable, rewarding and as profitable for them as possible.

We don't want anyone to post at our board unless they want too.:)

I sale short digit IQ numbers.
:glugglug

i 'm not deleting your account
youre welcome to post
and i agree 100% that it is something that should be debated

but when ppl join the conversation - without even reading the arguments given by both sides and go straight to name calling and abuse just because their mate has asked them to back them up - then its hardly a fair argument dont you think??

i know that a lot of webmasters smart and have good points to offer - if we can just get past the school yard behaviour - we all might actally learn something

damn, I wish she came in here with that bullshit....folks would have a field day on her

Degradation isn't necessarily a moral argument about the content of the site, rather it can be about the treatment of the model/worker. "buying and selling hahahahas," doesn't leave me feeling too good about that particular exchange.

Just as eliminating the ?max hardcore? sites or label them as distasteful does.

I market porn, among other things, that doesn?t mean I want to participate as a "model" or actively encourage anyone I'm associated with to do so. However, I respect a models choice. Am I a hypocrite because I wouldn?t want to be a porn actor, or any of my family to be, yet I?ll sell someone else?s daughter or son? I?m not quite sure.

Hypocrisy, its present every where...why else would Easton say ?he buys and sells hahahahas like kiko every day.? Both are webmasters, participants in hardcore and program owners right? One is male and one is female. So, we all took that to be a demeaning comment by Easton.

Is that what you meant by hypocrisy?

Quite a few people have "moral" or philosophical lines when it comes to what products they will sell, alcohol, tobacco, firearms, illegal drugs, erotica is no different.

Specifically in the adult industry, non-nude sites featuring (underage participants by U.S. law), or marketing legal teens like they are underage, bestiality, underage participants in stories, spam, fake child porn sites, usuage of the term ?lolita,? extreme bondage, defecating in people's mouth's. etc.

Plenty of people squirm at various things. The ability to decree someone as a hypocrite for drawing a moral line isn't straight forward, IMHO, as you make it out to be.

What if the subject were bestiality? or famous autopsies? or photos of the gored victims of 9/11? or the corpses of the astronauts?

Or photos of people fucking the corpses of the dead astronauts?

All of it is fairly arbitrary, and subject to the nebulous ?community standards,? yet our reaction is different to each scenario.

To further illustrate this, consider the legal limit for consent across the United States. Last time I checked it ranged from 14 to 17 across various states. So, a girl can consent to sexual intercourse with a man 20, 30 etc. years her senior--potentially creating life or destroying it (pregnancy v. stds). However, she couldn?t consent to topless photos for adult use. Yet, the same photos might be available for a series of artistic nudes. That is arbitrary as hell.

The world is all about subjective judgments. It is all about hypocrisy.

now THAT is the type of post i'm talkin about
finally a decent comment!

good points IMX - we've been discussing some of those issues at our board lately = particularly the age of consent Vs porn work issue


the world is not made up of black and white - there's a lot of shades of gray

I enjoyed Baddog's holier than thou comment at the end. He never fails :) He's my hero.

A guy who uses the same Asian list I do promotes her site and converts at 1:39 Not bad for an amateur/small site.

two things as she told me to act like a professional and I agreed with her when she said that to me. She could of just said no thank you. On the other point I think girls under 21 are too immature for adult work. I have had expriences with girls 18 and 19, they were very sweet but very immature. Thats why we changed our company policy to no one under 21. I think age of consent to model adult should be 21 like it is with liquor. That way also you dont have girls going on tv and saying i was 18 and didnt know.

Kitty, I'm with you.

I'd love to hop onto that thread and stick a big "Attention Whore" image on everyone that hopped in with their bullshit.
This was between Easton and Kiko. Period.
The rest of it was the ultimate display in childish behavior.

LOL - Kiko.. an amateur? :1orglaugh

I know plenty of idiots who are up to 25 years old. Does this mean that I won't shoot the girl? Hell no!

You can make the same argument about contracts. A person can enter into a legally binding contract at the age of 18. So does this mean that people who are under 21 are too naive to even sign a contract? Does this mean that young men and women who decide to go into the Military right out of highschool should wait until they're 21? Hell no! But you think that a woman needs to be 21 to take her clothes off in front of a camera?

And who cares if she gets on television and says that she was only 18 and didn't know...It's not like the law is gonna come after you. She's OF LEGAL AGE...

You can't be out on the corner slinging cocaine and think you're better than other drug dealers because you don't sell Heroin....

The hypocrisy makes me laugh....

Did just Easton proved her point about treating women like garbage..!? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

And yes, that is hurting the biz..

AS for consenting adults... well, its one thing to consent for having sex on camera... but not too many of those girls have the character to say what they dont like....
And this is call taken advantage of someone...

For the fishhook.... if its done with a smile... I see no problem there.... but if the girl seems in pain and not enjoying it... then you are hurting the biz....

And concerning the 18yo girl site... where's the pedophilia there...?
Care to explain yourself!?

Just to clear something up, she probably was mostly refering to the non-nude underage sites as "marketing to pedophiles"

...and I agree...


as for the rest of their sites, whatever floats your boat...




One funny thing is, Easton and Cie, brandish the free speech argument when people critize their site, but when someone says their opinion about what they do, they physically threaten that person to shut her up???


What's that about?

Tranny maybe.

anyone that thinks Kiko is dumb is a fucking idiot. She is far from dumb. Opinionated, no doubt. Dumb, no way.

You on the other hand . . . .

After reading this post I am going to go to treat myself to an asian whore and eat some chinese food after !

There's one important part that they left out of that prison/work comparison, they forgot about the part that in prison you'll get anal raped every day...... I think that I'll stick to work, ha ha ha.

Hmm, the thread rather conveniently got locked before I could respond. And as the breeding ground for a lot of this garbage GFY is hardly the place for any sort of serous discussion on the subject.

Oh well, Easton and Pink-In-The-Middle are doing the old "Next Internext Ninja" routine- I guess a 95lb girl is just about what they can both handle if they really cooperate. You run non-nude teen sites- you're a scum bag, you fishhook women- you're a scum bag. You repeatedly threaten to physically assault women who don't agree with you at industry functions- you're a scum bag and should not be permitted to attend. A lot of people feel the same way I do, the difference is I'm willing to point a finger and say YOU- what YOU do sucks to the people responsible. The reaction to this can be seen in the thread- absolute shock at actually being held personally responsible for his actions.

Some people object to things but avoid pointing fingers and naming names, if I see something I don't like I'm willing to take a stand on it- even without dozens of board cronies to back me up. I long since got my ass blacklisted from AVN Online and every other Adult media outlet for doing this so I really have nothing to lose.

Last I checked most of the more successful women in the business rarely take a stand on anything- particularly when it's something controversial that might make them unpopular. It's easy to be popular when you pride yourself on having no opinions. They privately complain about a lot of things but would never consider confronting the people responsible in an open forum when the odds are so ridiculously stacked against them.

So in short, I went out on a limb, I said my piece, I stand by everything I said and am more than prepared to deal the consequences- if any, and come out on top. As for anybody who doesn't like that- they know what they can do:

http://www.GoddessDigitalMedia.com/Go-Fuck-Yourself.mov

Where exactly are these non-nude underage sites that you are talking about?

word. thx.
Your sacred cow is my next big mac.
:glugglug

"sacred" not "scared" buhahahahaha whoops

my mistake, its not underage non-nude... apparently...

What the hell does your weight have to do with anything? BTW I'm a female hun,100lbs at that. Does this make a diffrence???

LOL too funny.

You're right. It is very easy to be liked when you don't voice your opinion. Thats why most of us are called bitches.

Yea. He could have just said, "It's business, we shoot what people want to see."

All he did was prove her right.

If it makes you feel any better, I've been called an "asshole" and "prick" many times because I have differing opinions.

Pink what's up with you threatening Kiko? Since when are you a thugette?

very disappointing...

After that exchange, which didn't leave me too impressed with you, that is a first rate thing to say.

:winkwink:

What the heck is a "thugette"?

When did I say I was upset about being called a bitch? lol
I don't mind one little bit :thumbsup
I'm a bitch that gets what I want :winkwink:

thugette

never heard that term :)

I never threatened her. However she takes it is up to her.
Remember she said it "words are cheap" :glugglug

Like here or not , she's got style...oh, I do promote Kiko's sites and they flat out convert.

An awful lot of guys get intimidated by an ascertive woman, gee, it didn't show did it?

Oh, forgot to mention, I been in prison for racketerring, he he, you guys figure you are gone buy and sell, what was the term, "whores like you"....get a ticket on the clue bus...this business is ripe for fellas who would be happy to piss on any one of you. Goodfellas don't take no for an answer. So, if it were me, I quit showing off my ferrari's and just keep sticking money in the bank...braggin about the millions your making isn't exactly the brainest tactic either...attracts flies. I'm sure you are aware that your drivel hasn't gone unnoticed. Keep talking.

Keep telling it like it is Kiko...you got style.

I have found that when someone attacks on the boards that the majority of the time you CAN trace it back to being related to your paysites..

:Graucho

Kiko rocks....:thumbsup

LOL

Like her or not, she got her point across without "Do you know who I am??" statements and threats of kicking someone's ass in the girls' room.

She does have style.

She's so fiesty. I'd promote her all day long. I think she could handle that kind of promotion. I'll even throw in one good... hard... link trade.

What are you talking about?

:glugglug

Ohhh, but I got the love for you!!:winkwink:

Anyone got pics of Kiko? I want to get a good mental picture so I can envision how I will promote her.

I need good hot pics please.

Dats cuz yo muh suga pie. :Graucho