I'm not saying they don't have the right to protest or shouldn't protest. They do have the right, and they should protest if they feel that badly about it.

The problem is they aren't really protesting so much as they are camping out twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week. That's not a protest; It's a cross between a campground and a circus. If you do that in a public park in NYC - or any other city - it's only a matter of time before the homeless say "Hey, free tents and free food". Combined with the fact that the criminal element sees a huge target, and you went from a little protest to dozens of serious crimes being committed.

It seems like the primary point of the OWS protests is to get high and rape young girls in tents. I guess that is a cause. :Oh crap

Occupy DC becoming increasingly violent, police say

http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/...ent-police-say

What they are against is a very complex problem. It involves politics, ideology, campaign finance, regulations, taxation, etc. It can't be summed up in one simple message.

Just because a problem can't be easily summed up in a sound bite doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist.

They also don't want to make the mistake of adopting a message, and then the opposition slices it so thin in order to make it seem false. For example, the 99% vs 1%, that was obviously not meant to be an exact calculation, but the media has gone out and taken it as such in order to try to discredit the movement.

They aren't against "banks". They are against the fact that banks have evolved into these giant monoliths that no longer server a useful purpose in supporting the economy. Instead of investing in business, they simply trade money back and forth in what amounts to gambling. So they no longer support the economy, but when they fuck up and lose all their money, they come crying to the taxpayer to get bailed out, then they go right back to doing it again.

But that's a very complex issue, it involves the banks themselves, politics, the fed, campaign contributions, etc. There is no way you can sum it up in a simple message.

Once again, I'm not saying the OWS is right, but you can't simply discredit them off hand because they don't have a sound bite message.

Occupy Portland Arrests and Public Safety Updates For November 6

http://www.portlandonline.com/police...ontent_id=2578



Just another day at the office for the OWS trash. :winkwink:

I know, those Tea Partying grandmothers were hell on wheels!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

If you still don't know its about corruption, lobbying, bailouts, etc. then you are just being ignorant.

And if you also don't know, the reason they aren't making it political and taking it to the voting booth, most people feel they were duped by Obama and that 2012 will be more of the same.

So they're trying something different.

Excellent post.

I understand this isn't a simple problem. But without having a goal or even a demand, all they have is a "group of disgruntled people". They are coming off as being anti banking ("Everyone move to credit unions") and anti business. Banks and businesses are in fact in business to make money. And credit unions aren't much different from banks really.

Without having a goal or a set of demands, no one can give them what they want.

Oh shit thats just like the Tea Party, remember when they went all wild raping and destroying things and had Nazi and Communist supporters.

Wait a minute thats Barrys wet dream!

50 OWS Crime Waves!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sxLspn86gO...ster-anon1.jpg

Love it! :thumbsup

homeless drug addicts are taking up residence in every city that has an OWS 'camp'. Here in Ottawa they are having some troubles with them. They tell them to leave for doing drugs and they won't leave, some using needles to threaten others with. Ottawa OWS says they will continue to feed the homeless people but want police help to move them out if they get out of control.

But no crime associated with the "1%" they're protesting against?

Occupiers terrorize us: eatery

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...3WyJWAJu4A hO




The crime wave never stops. This what we have to look forward to after the glorious OWS workers revolution. :Oh crap

Assaults raise concerns about crime at Occupy L.A.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/nov...crime-20111105

Congrats on the breaking old "news" from the NY Post:1orglaugh That piece o' propaganda has gotten some coverage.

Of course terrorizing the local businesses is what the legit protestors want to do, makes perfect sense if they want to be there for the long haul:error

It's really inconceivable that infiltrators are going around causing shit to give OWS a bad name:winkwink:

The only thing you did was post a picture which says nothing and has no point of reference behind it.
I on the other hand showed you evidence of black bloc infiltrators and that's all you got?

these ows protests are usually done in areas where crime and hardcore drug use runs rampant already.. there is no way for them to "ban" people.

The crimes are just the same crimes that would be reported in these areas if the ows protesters were not there

I thought the worst crime would be an intentional Starbuck's Latte scalding.

Of course there is a way to prevent them from being a part of OWS.

They need to grow the fuck up and protest like adults. Put away the tents and the little circus thing - this attracts the homeless and the criminals. Have a protest weekly, every Saturday. Have them at different locations. The protesters who really believe in this will find out where the protests are via social networking, etc - the homeless won't. The criminals won't show up because a group of protesters hanging out for a few hours is a lot less tempting than a full time encampment in a public park.

SoCal Street Cart Vendors Hurting After ?Occupy? Group Splatters Blood, Urine


http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011/...s-blood-urine/



Give the spoiled children what they want for free...... or else you will also be part of the dreaded 1% class enemy. :Oh crap

odd that when the Tea Party protested, there were no rapes, robberies, or drug deaths.

its one of life's mysteries. :1orglaugh

Gonna wager it's because they gathered for a few hours with signs, listened to people yell about stuff and then went home?

They had the same probability of something happening to them as if they went to the mall that morning.

Put them in a sleeping bag in the middle of the city overnight and then let's make a fair comparison?

I agree, at some point they will need to solidify their message into something people can understand. But that takes time.

Personally, I give "the people" the benefit of the doubt in these sorts of the things no matter their view. Regular people have no lobbyists, they have no politicians in their pocket, they don't own any media outlets, etc. So I feel they deserve a bit more time to get organized.

However, if they stall out and the message is still unclear in a few months, then that's on them and the movement should probably disband and regroup.

intelligent people don't camp out in sleeping bags in the city.:thumbsup

In the meantime the bankers stole an other 122 Trillion dollars and forced an other 1.3 million people out of their homes.
And the cops killed an other 55 people by tasering and shooting them to death.

It is the struggle of the 99%.

Yea...... it is strange how those violent right wing uneducated Tea Party racists managed to not rape or kill or steal or deal drugs or overdose or vandalize....... but these peace loving leftists just cannot help themselves. :1orglaugh

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Fucking well said.

and with every arrest.. they just make it even more difficult to get a job for themselves. Oh well.

Oh wow... I didn't even think of that.

Well, stupid is as stupid does.

In other OWS news, I have the solution to ending sweat shops.

It's called air conditioning.

Not too many many of these mutts actually want a job...... they are just looking for handouts from the productive members of society. They are the parasite class. :2 cents:

Daily crime wave update....... the fun never stops. :helpme


Man found dead in Occupy New Orleans encampment

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...upy_new_o.html

Watch some OWS trash show their disdain for actual working people....... I guess this security guard is also part of the 1%. How dare he actually hold a job........ what a sellout. :disgust



Occupy Thugs Taunt Black Security Guard

Daily crime wave update-
"A police attack against Oakland man Scott Campbell has drawn national attention and outrage after Campbell released a video of the incident on YouTube."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1082393.html

I really cannot imagine what is making those jack booted fascist police so needlessly violent against these peaceful harmless protesters. :1orglaugh


Police arrest man at Occupy Portland camp for throwing Molotov cocktail into stairwell at World Trade Center


http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i...occupy_po.html