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Lykos 11-09-2011 03:28 AM

Should be 41:)

Ayla_SquareTurtle 11-09-2011 03:42 AM

Holy. Fuck.

I cannot believe you guys are still arguing about this.

Look up the order of operations rules, apply them, get your answer. It's not that damn hard!

Look Chang 11-09-2011 03:47 AM

My Samsung Galaxy S says 41
My Canon pocket calculator says 1
My Sony VAIO all in one 24" computer says 1

I say 41 and I think Samsung is already leading the world.

WarChild 11-09-2011 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 18546677)
Open the calculator on your computer, and type in the question, hitting enter to see each step. Now switch to scientific and enter it, watching each step.

standard:

40 + 40 = 80
* 0 = 0
+ 1 = 1

scientific
40 + 40 = 80
* 0 = 0
+ (now the number on screen jumps to 40, as ONLY in scientific maths does the order come into it) 1 = 41

Just stop. You're wrong.

u-Bob 11-09-2011 04:14 AM

Djeez are you people serious?

the answer is 41.

u-Bob 11-09-2011 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent 3dSexCash (Post 18546336)
The only way that this can be 41 is if the equation is written like this:

40 + (40 x 0) + 1

40 + (40 x 0) + 1 = 40 + 40 x 0 + 1

u-Bob 11-09-2011 04:25 AM

"A common technique for remembering the order of operations is the abbreviation "PEMDAS", which is turned into the phrase "Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally". It stands for "Parentheses, Exponents, Multiplication and Division, and Addition and Subtraction". This tells you the ranks of the operations: Parentheses outrank exponents, which outrank multiplication and division (but multiplication and division are at the same rank), and these two outrank addition and subtraction (which are together on the bottom rank). "

http://www.mathsisfun.com/operation-order-pemdas.html.

"Note: in the UK they say BODMAS (Brackets,Orders,Divide,Multiply,Add,Subtract), and in Canada they say BEDMAS (Brackets,Exponents,Divide,Multiply,Add,Subtract). It all means the same thing! It doesn't really matter how you remember it, just so long as you get it right."

Emil 11-09-2011 04:30 AM

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...B+40+x+0+%2B+1

WarChild 11-09-2011 04:32 AM

I really can't believe people are arguing about this one. The troll thread Phoenix made with the implied multiplication was at least interesting. This is so simple it's stupid.

stocktrader23 11-09-2011 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lock (Post 18546571)
the answer is 1 anything x 0 = 0 the addition is at the end after the equals = symbol plus + 1 so answer is can only be one.

Those that think there is any other outcome are mixing up the order of the equation.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

stocktrader23 11-09-2011 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 18546677)
Open the calculator on your computer, and type in the question, hitting enter to see each step. Now switch to scientific and enter it, watching each step.

standard:

40 + 40 = 80
* 0 = 0
+ 1 = 1

scientific
40 + 40 = 80
* 0 = 0
+ (now the number on screen jumps to 40, as ONLY in scientific maths does the order come into it) 1 = 41

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Stop it. You're going to give me a fucking heart attack! :1orglaugh

CyberHustler 11-09-2011 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 18546318)

Google calculator turns it like this: (40 plus (40 times 0)) plus 1 = 41

CaptainHowdy 11-09-2011 04:54 AM

http://pichars.org/store/2824_origin...1796314829.png

DVTimes 11-09-2011 04:57 AM

its 1

i belive

DVTimes 11-09-2011 05:01 AM

http://www.multitables.com/times-table.pdf

anything times by 0 is 0.

1x0=0
2x0= 0
798x0=0

so the answr is 1

http://www.multitables.com/times-table.pdf

DVTimes 11-09-2011 05:04 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_by_zero

WarChild 11-09-2011 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18546804)
http://www.multitables.com/times-table.pdf

anything times by 0 is 0.

1x0=0
2x0= 0
798x0=0

so the answr is 1

http://www.multitables.com/times-table.pdf

God damn it no. The order of operations ALWAYS apply. For fuck sakes you idiots.

paffg 11-09-2011 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18546804)
anything times by 0 is 0.

You mean multiplied, not times

scottybuzz 11-09-2011 05:10 AM

if dvtimes thinks the answer is 1, then the correct answer is 41

Freaky_Akula 11-09-2011 05:13 AM

The correct answer is 41.

stocktrader23 11-09-2011 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18546812)
God damn it no. The order of operations ALWAYS apply. For fuck sakes you idiots.

:1orglaugh

I have to leave. I'm crying over here I'm laughing so hard.

WarChild 11-09-2011 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18546831)
:1orglaugh

I have to leave. I'm crying over here I'm laughing so hard.

I know it's fucking amazing isn't it? This is simple grade school math and it's not just one or two people that are wrong. You'd think we'd have learned by now that GFY is full of idiots but it still catches me off guard how dumb some people are. :(

stocktrader23 11-09-2011 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18546833)
I know it's fucking amazing isn't it? This is simple grade school math and it's not just one or two people that are wrong. You'd think we'd have learned by now that GFY is full of idiots but it still catches me off guard how dumb some people are. :(

That's not even the part that makes me laugh. It is a common mistake and while it's grade school math it's intuitively "wrong". But here we have an entire thread of people explaining why it's 41 and an entire internet of information so that anyone can look this up for themselves but they are still in here arguing that they are absolutely right and insinuating that we're all idiots because we don't know that something multiplied by 0 is 0. :1orglaugh

MrCain 11-09-2011 05:25 AM

The amount of FAIL in this thread truly amazing. The answer is 41. Those who doubt that obviously did not pay any attention in school.

Jel 11-09-2011 05:29 AM

I have a strong suspicion that the way they teach maths in your primary schools in the USA is completely different to what they teach in the UK.

As sure as you are that it's 41 because the order of operations always apply, I (and it looks like everyone else in the UK) is as sure they don't always apply, unless specifically in algebra/scientific maths.

We had separate lessons to explain to us the difference between eg 40 + 40 * 0 +1 and 40 + (40 * 0) + 1

That's the only reason I can think of that everyone is 100% confident in their answer, be it 41 or 1.

redwhiteandblue 11-09-2011 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 18546677)
Open the calculator on your computer, and type in the question, hitting enter to see each step.

You're wrong there Jel, if you do that you are turning it into three different equations. If you do it as one calculation on any calculator, it will use the order of operations. 1 is the answer a primary school child would give, but everything you learn in maths after that tells you the answer is 41.

u-Bob 11-09-2011 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 18546840)
I have a strong suspicion that the way they teach maths in your primary schools in the USA is completely different to what they teach in the UK.

Not in the US... and the answer is 41.

WarChild 11-09-2011 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 18546840)
I have a strong suspicion that the way they teach maths in your primary schools in the USA is completely different to what they teach in the UK.

As sure as you are that it's 41 because the order of operations always apply, I (and it looks like everyone else in the UK) is as sure they don't always apply, unless specifically in algebra/scientific maths.

We had separate lessons to explain to us the difference between eg 40 + 40 * 0 +1 and 40 + (40 * 0) + 1

That's the only reason I can think of that everyone is 100% confident in their answer, be it 41 or 1.

No. You're simply wrong.

Math is absolute. Rules apply and they always apply so that you always reach the same answer to a given equation period. According to you there's two different answers depending on the kind of "Maths" you apply. If that were true there would need to be some sort of notation to specify which rules you use, which you'll notice there isn't.

The answer is 41 period.

Do you guys really call it MathS in the UK? That sounds so strange. Math is short for Mathematics which already has an S.

EddyTheDog 11-09-2011 05:32 AM

I came up with 1 at first - but I am the clever one here as I then read up about it and realised it was 41....

Why am I the clever one ?

1. I checked.

2. I can admit it when I am wrong.

Two things that the majority here seem unable to do.....

Jel 11-09-2011 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue (Post 18546842)
You're wrong there Jel, if you do that you are turning it into three different equations. If you do it as one calculation on any calculator, it will use the order of operations. 1 is the answer a primary school child would give, but everything you learn in maths after that tells you the answer is 41.

Sorry yeah, not hitting enter, but looking at the screen per each step. I'm doing it on a calculator, built into my pc, using 'standard' as 1 flowing equation, to get 1. Using it as scientific, as 1 flowing equation, gives 41.

nyllover 11-09-2011 05:37 AM

LOL...i can't stop laughing reading this thread... :D :D :D Especially to people giving wrong answer and adding "that's why you are adult webmasters".... :D :D :D

Jel 11-09-2011 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18546849)
No. You're simply wrong.

Math is absolute. Rules apply and they always apply so that you always reach the same answer to a given equation period. According to you there's two different answers depending on the kind of "Maths" you apply. If that were true there would need to be some sort of notation to specify which rules you use, which you'll notice there isn't.

The answer is 41 period.

Do you guys really call it MathS in the UK? That sounds so strange. Math is short for Mathematics which already has an S.

Heh, edited before I could reply ;)

Yes, maths in the uk, as there is no 'mathematic', eg automobiles shortened = autos, automobile shortened = auto.

The notation, I was always taught at least, though redwhiteand blue says is different, is that the notation *is* the use of parentheses, so none = a notation in itself.

Dirty F 11-09-2011 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 35PPS_Kristine (Post 18546583)
you can't be serious.
only a really dumb person can't calculate something like this and you are making a thread out of it?

Why don't you tell us the answer, bitch.

Dirty F 11-09-2011 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyllover (Post 18546854)
LOL...i can't stop laughing reading this thread... :D :D :D Especially to people giving wrong answer and adding "that's why you are adult webmasters".... :D :D :D

:1orglaugh

Jel 11-09-2011 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 18546851)
I came up with 1 at first - but I am the clever one here as I then read up about it and realised it was 41....

Why am I the clever one ?

1. I checked.

2. I can admit it when I am wrong.

Two things that the majority here seem unable to do.....

Yeah I only just looked at google as I was wtf, hence my only idea is that we are taught differently. redwhiteandblue has stated he wasn't taught like that so who knows, maybe I went to a shit school(s) :1orglaugh

We certainly weren't taught the order of blahblah though, the 1st time I've ever heard of it is in this thread :(

WarChild 11-09-2011 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 18546858)
Yeah I only just looked at google as I was wtf, hence my only idea is that we are taught differently. redwhiteandblue has stated he wasn't taught like that so who knows, maybe I went to a shit school(s) :1orglaugh

We certainly weren't taught the order of blahblah though, the 1st time I've ever heard of it is in this thread :(

http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebit...tionrev1.shtml

redwhiteandblue 11-09-2011 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18546849)
Do you guys really call it MathS in the UK? That sounds so strange. Math is short for Mathematics which already has an S.

Fuck. Do we have to give you guys an English lesson now too?

WarChild 11-09-2011 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 18546855)
Heh, edited before I could reply ;)

Yes, maths in the uk, as there is no 'mathematic', eg automobiles shortened = autos, automobile shortened = auto.

This is exactly why it sounds weird. The S on automobiles indicates plural. The S on Mathematics does not indication plural as like you said there's no Mathematic and thus no need for an S on Math. Strange little difference in the language I guess.

WarChild 11-09-2011 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue (Post 18546872)
Fuck. Do we have to give you guys an English lesson now too?

Only if it's better than the Math lesson you guys are trying to teach. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Jel 11-09-2011 05:52 AM

Like I say, maybe I went to a shit school, I can guarantee you I was never taught bodmas by the time I left in 1986. Honestly, I am fucking stunned, posted this on facebook earlier and everyone I went to school with has said 1.

Just asked if anyone from my school can remember being taught bodmas/order of operation to see if I really have just lost my memory :-0


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