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WarChild 11-09-2011 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 18548889)
I know because I have a degree in mechanical engineering. I took math classes for 9 semesters. Every freshmen gets that order of operations gag from a professor with a sense of humor. Turn in a paper with an equation written without proper brackets and you fail. There is a reason we have been using brackets for the last 400 years.

I give up, you win.

moeloubani 11-09-2011 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 18548889)
I know because I have a degree in mechanical engineering. I took math classes for 9 semesters. Every freshmen gets that order of operations gag from a professor with a sense of humor. Turn in a paper with an equation written without proper brackets and you fail. There is a reason we have been using brackets for the last 400 years.

you took math classes for 9 semesters and you're wrong

40 +(40 x 0) + 1 = 41
(40+40) x 0 + 1 = 1
40 + 40 x (0 + 1) = 80

this is all cool but

40 + 40 x 0 + 1 = 41

and that's with no brackets, as written.

is there a rule that says you need to add brackets? please point me to that math rule, here is the one that says im right

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_operations

Quote:

For example, in mathematics and most computer languages multiplication is done before addition; in the expression 2 + 3 × 4, the answer is 14. Brackets, which have their own rules, may be used to avoid confusion, thus the preceding expression may also be rendered 2 + (3 × 4), but the brackets are not required as multiplication still has precedence without them.
looks like you learned wrong, broseph, time to admit you were wrong and learn from your mistake

Linguist 11-09-2011 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 18548755)
40 + 40 x 0 + 1= an ambiguous equation

40 +(40 x 0) + 1 = 41
(40+40) x 0 + 1 = 1
40 + 40 x (0 + 1) = 80

No. I have a degree in computer science and a degree in math.

It's not an ambiguous equation.

There's no ambiguity there. Absolutely bloody none.

There's no gag in there, this shit is taught in middle school. You would not fail a paper if you handed in an equation with no brackets when it's as obvious as this one. In fact you'd probably get marks docked off for putting brackets into something bloody obvious as this.

Fuck's sakes.

Superterrorizer 11-09-2011 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linguist (Post 18548949)
No. I have a degree in computer science and a degree in math.

It's not an ambiguous equation.

There's no ambiguity there. Absolutely bloody none.

There's no gag in there, this shit is taught in middle school. You would not fail a paper if you handed in an equation with no brackets when it's as obvious as this one. In fact you'd probably get marks docked off for putting brackets into something bloody obvious as this.

Fuck's sakes.

Implied parenthesis

itto 11-09-2011 09:48 PM

title Computer sez 41
dosseg
.model small
.stack 100h
.data
da_result db '41',0dh,0ah,'$'
.code
main proc
mov ax,@data
mov ds,ax
mov ah,9
mov dx,offset da_result
int 21h
mov ax,4C00h
int 21h
main endp
end main

_Richard_ 11-09-2011 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superterrorizer (Post 18549011)

Quote:

Person 1: What does "2 + 3 x 4" equal?

Person 2: 20!

Person 3: No it's 14, learn your order of operations.

Person 2: No! It's supposed to be read as "(2 + 3) x 4". Implied Parenthesis noob!

Person 3: Life doesn't make a whole lotta sense to you, does it?
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Zoxxa 11-09-2011 10:07 PM

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Dirty F 11-10-2011 01:57 AM

I love it how everyone is so sure they are right and call other people idiots.

u-Bob 11-10-2011 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 18548889)
I know because I have a degree in mechanical engineering. I took math classes for 9 semesters. Every freshmen gets that order of operations gag from a professor with a sense of humor. Turn in a paper with an equation written without proper brackets and you fail. There is a reason we have been using brackets for the last 400 years.

http://www.iheartfunny.com/uploads/p...1312488110.jpg

http://verydemotivational.files.word...-if-troll1.jpg

CarmenL 11-10-2011 03:51 AM

IT's 41 :))
When we don't have parentheses, we have this rule: 1. multiply 2. addition
i loveeeee maaathh :-)))

Dirty F 11-10-2011 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18549362)

:1orglaugh

WTFBucks 11-10-2011 05:44 AM

Either most of you are just kidding/trolling or COMPLETE DUMBFUCKS
How can you NOT KNOW the right answer?!! Just how?
Did you go to school? First graders know the answer... I hope you're just joking around. Otherwise it's so fucked up

georgeyw 11-10-2011 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 18548755)
40 + 40 x 0 + 1= an ambiguous equation

40 +(40 x 0) + 1 = 41
(40+40) x 0 + 1 = 1
40 + 40 x (0 + 1) = 80

It is not ambiguous.

If you studied 9 semesters of maths, how did you pass?

wehateporn 11-10-2011 05:48 AM

I studied Maths in Cambridge, so it's illegal for me to participate in this thread :winkwink:

Dirty F 11-10-2011 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WTFBucks (Post 18549486)
Either most of you are just kidding/trolling or COMPLETE DUMBFUCKS
How can you NOT KNOW the right answer?!! Just how?
Did you go to school? First graders know the answer... I hope you're just joking around. Otherwise it's so fucked up

That's what everyone says eventhough they all have a different answer :)

WTFBucks 11-10-2011 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18549514)
That's what everyone says eventhough they all have a different answer :)

I know right... Still it's CRAZY
That's why I'm not even giving my answer... I'm too shocked to see this happening... I can't believe I see a group of adults arguing about this easiest task ever

I'm gonna calm myself down and believe it's all jokes

Double trouble 11-10-2011 07:13 AM

Franck, Congrats on your new Ipad 2 :1orglaugh

Minte 11-10-2011 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linguist (Post 18548949)
No. I have a degree in computer science and a degree in math.

It's not an ambiguous equation.

There's no ambiguity there. Absolutely bloody none.

There's no gag in there, this shit is taught in middle school. You would not fail a paper if you handed in an equation with no brackets when it's as obvious as this one. In fact you'd probably get marks docked off for putting brackets into something bloody obvious as this.

Fuck's sakes.

It's clear that there are a lot of GFY posters that are probably in middle school or just recently out of it. I graduated from college in the early 1980's. And during that era this equation was exactly what I already typed. It was a joke for freshmen engineers. If computer sciences have made that equation acceptable today I wouldn't be aware of it.

Minte 11-10-2011 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 18549490)
It is not ambiguous.

If you studied 9 semesters of maths, how did you pass?

I must have been just lucky. And for the 30 years since I graduated the luck never ended. Every year my manufacturing companies continue to grow and make profits.

Fletch XXX 11-10-2011 07:29 AM

i got a degree in trolling and approve this thread

EddyTheDog 11-10-2011 07:37 AM

Remember some of us learned this shit 25 or more years ago.

We don't all post here (after math class) from the computer at school.....

Marcus 11-10-2011 07:40 AM

The answer is 1
why are people saying its 41? I dont even get that?
Once you his the x0 it all goes to 0, then add the 1

so its 1

Jel 11-10-2011 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 18549713)
It's clear that there are a lot of GFY posters that are probably in middle school or just recently out of it. I graduated from college in the early 1980's. And during that era this equation was exactly what I already typed. It was a joke for freshmen engineers. If computer sciences have made that equation acceptable today I wouldn't be aware of it.

That does make me feel somewhat better actually lol.

WarChild 11-10-2011 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 18549728)
I must have been just lucky. And for the 30 years since I graduated the luck never ended. Every year my manufacturing companies continue to grow and make profits.

It's obvious that you're an intelligent guy and have been very successful. I've personally paid a lot of attention to many of your posts over the years. That being said, I think you're simply mistaken in this case, most probably a slip of the memory due to the time involved.

The order of operations were the same 25 years ago as they are today. They applied when I learned them in grade school 25 years ago, and when I studied Computer Sciences in college 15 years ago. It's a fundamental principle essential to keep Mathematical equations from being ambigious. :2 cents:

Dirty F 11-10-2011 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double trouble (Post 18549690)
Franck, Congrats on your new Ipad 2 :1orglaugh

I honestly think i'm gonna nominate myself. What you think?

MaDalton 11-10-2011 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus (Post 18549752)
The answer is 1
why are people saying its 41? I dont even get that?
Once you his the x0 it all goes to 0, then add the 1

so its 1

even on page 7 :Oh crap

Double trouble 11-10-2011 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18549867)
I honestly think i'm gonna nominate myself. What you think?

Go for it! You have my vote.

Dirty F 11-10-2011 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double trouble (Post 18549893)
Go for it! You have my vote.

:thumbsup

blonda80 11-10-2011 08:52 AM

this is why:
http://www.google.com/search?q=40+%2...en-US:official

40 + (40 x 0) + 1 = 41

x-rate 11-10-2011 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blonda80 (Post 18549967)
this is why:
http://www.google.com/search?q=40+%2...en-US:official

40 + (40 x 0) + 1 = 41

Some people will still don't get it and reply: yeah but there's not parenthesis so it's 1...! lol

Zoxxa 11-10-2011 09:09 AM

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/3425/oxqtc1.jpg

Zoxxa 11-10-2011 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x-rate (Post 18549991)
Some people will still don't get it and reply: yeah but there's not parenthesis so it's 1...! lol

That is Google's way of showing you the order of operations, jesus christ.

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1...threadedn6.jpg

DVTimes 11-10-2011 09:29 AM

he he

this is on facebook thing.

its recording the repose.

RebelR 11-10-2011 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x-rate (Post 18549991)
Some people will still don't get it and reply: yeah but there's not parenthesis so it's 1...! lol

Sorry.. didn't realize you were pointing out the flaw .. hehe

_Richard_ 11-10-2011 10:01 AM

ahh good morning gfy

i see the gift that doesn't stop giving is still.. ahh.. giving

FlexxAeon 11-10-2011 10:23 AM

for those that truly believe the answer is 1, i refer you to my real life example:

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18546646&postcount=106

for those that are trolling hard, well played. gonna sit back and enjoy the laughs now

Si 11-10-2011 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 18550247)
for those that truly believe the answer is 1, i refer you to my real life example:

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18546646&postcount=106

for those that are trolling hard, well played. gonna sit back and enjoy the laughs now

:1orglaugh

mineistaken 11-10-2011 10:50 AM

41, some people must be dumb.

By the way do you remember similar thread with different equation months ago? At least there were some thought into it (because of the implied brackets). While this equation even do not raise any question..

CaptainHowdy 11-10-2011 10:54 AM

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Si 11-10-2011 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 18550323)
41, some people must be dumb.

By the way do you remember similar thread with different equation months ago? At least there were some thought into it (because of the implied brackets). While this equation even do not raise any question..

The other one was worse because it actually had 2 different ways of being worked out and people couldn't seem to see it was written badly.

This one has only 1 answer.


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