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CyberHustler 11-09-2011 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 18548272)
As much as I KNOW that Michael O had nothing to do with Epassporte, he fed everybody bullshit for the longest time. I am not saying this is the case here, but in all actuality I wouldn't go near anything or take anything he says as etched in stone. He is known in my book to stick up for con artists and thieves. That's his label... again, in my book.

Take it for what it's worth.

As for those ripping on this guy because he is missing money? What are the excuses? This is what I hear "SHIT HAPPENS".

Fuck that. People need their money. Pay the fucking guy even if you have to send a Mexican on a mule straight to his house with the cash. These are people's livelihoods. Don't downplay a situation around these parts. Most of you people that saw where that got us... Thank you Mr. Mallick, for making me a jaded douchebag.

:2 cents:

SwirlsGirl 11-09-2011 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 18548272)
As much as I KNOW that Michael O had nothing to do with Epassporte, he fed everybody bullshit for the longest time. I am not saying this is the case here, but in all actuality I wouldn't go near anything or take anything he says as etched in stone. He is known in my book to stick up for con artists and thieves. That's his label... again, in my book.

Take it for what it's worth.

As for those ripping on this guy because he is missing money? What are the excuses? This is what I hear "SHIT HAPPENS".

Fuck that. People need their money. Pay the fucking guy even if you have to send a Mexican on a mule straight to his house with the cash. These are people's livelihoods. Don't downplay a situation around these parts. Most of you people that saw where that got us... Thank you Mr. Mallick, for making me a jaded douchebag.



Cosign....ditto....roger that.....copy like amother fucker...props to Harmon calling a spade a spade and speaking from the PROPER merchant context and posture....could not have said it better myself...

I cosign that guy running the show at zombaio is bad news for us and zombaio....most of this BULLSHIT did not start until he walked into the place....screw him and others who defend him and are like him

P.S. don;t play hardball with them/him unless you know what you are doing, they will go over your site with a fine tooth comb and if you use paypal for anything be careful to disassociate it from your site, they will call paypal up personally and see that your account gets shut down...

Also if you have a merchant account DO NOT GIVE THOSE BASTARDS AT ZOMBAIO ANY private DETAILS OF YOUR MERCAHNT ACCOUNT...no matter what they tell you...do it if you want and you may have your merchant account shut down also...just a warning

SwirlsGirl 11-09-2011 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jreg81 (Post 18548314)
That's exactly right Harmon.

I didn't like the lackadaisical attitude about this from Zombaio every time I contacted them over the past 13 days. It was kinda like a "don't call us, we'll call you" type of sentiment I felt.

If I was in the business of processing payments for clients and getting them their money on-time, and for whatever reason, that failed, I'd make it a HUGE priority to get it resolved---and fast. I don't care what you need to do, get on the phone, call somebody, WAKE somebody up in Netherlands or Sweden or the Cayman Islands, or wherever the heck they are and GET SOME ANSWERS and then relay them back to your client with conviction.

Not good when it comes to money. As you said, it's a business. Hard to run a business when you don't have your money on time that you counted on. Lack of confidence that you'll get your money on time is a BAD thing in business in my "wannabe businessman" point of view.

Also don't quite get some of the "blame-the-victim" replies here, but chalking them up mostly to typical GFY trolling. I'm pretty sure if it was YOUR money, you'd be upset about it too; and probably much sooner than 13 days.

I'm assuming most of those blame-the-victim replies are from those who don't run their own programs or sites, but rather are of the affiliate model. In which case, it's still quite ironic, because if the programs aren't getting paid on time, do you think you will too, as an affiliate?

Sure, you might not be an affiliate of my particular program, but speaking in general terms here.

Pretty silly to side with a biller who missed paying out a sponsor on time. Not sure what circumstance would make that a logical position of any sensible affiliate webmaster.

The part where you mentioned GFY trolling and people blaimg the victim, well you might be shocked to know that some of these are not trolls at all, but very complex software that can create not only message board profiles, but actual personas...

This software can then be used to make a person like yourself COMPLAINING ABOUT NOT GETTING YOUR MONEY...yes it will help make you look like the only one with the problem, and cause the public reading the boards to rethink and side with the bots....

very very masterful at the stunts they pull, you guys just don't give them enough credit...they have resources and contacts and they use them all

BIGTYMER 11-09-2011 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18547736)
OK, but you say the same thing in every thread when someone complains.

I mean, WTF?

Are you like a "positivity troll"? :1orglaugh

I just really like them. In the year I've used them they were late on one payment. I love my rates too. Some people are just drama queens or extra needy. All my support tickets have been answered promptly.

So I guess I'm a fanboy. :)

BIGTYMER 11-09-2011 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwirlsGirl (Post 18548495)
The part where you mentioned GFY trolling and people blaimg the victim, well you might be shocked to know that some of these are not trolls at all, but very complex software that can create not only message board profiles, but actual personas...

This software can then be used to make a person like yourself COMPLAINING ABOUT NOT GETTING YOUR MONEY...yes it will help make you look like the only one with the problem, and cause the public reading the boards to rethink and side with the bots....

very very masterful at the stunts they pull, you guys just don't give them enough credit...they have resources and contacts and they use them all

Smoke some more crack dude! :pimp

PromoterX 11-09-2011 07:58 PM

Good luck to all :)

jreg81 11-09-2011 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 18548745)
I just really like them. In the year I've used them they were late on one payment. I love my rates too. Some people are just drama queens or extra needy. All my support tickets have been answered promptly.

So I guess I'm a fanboy. :)


Call me a drama-boy or "extra-needy" or whatever you want. Means nothing Big Boy.

We still don't have our money. That is all that matters.

Day 14.

Jel 11-10-2011 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwirlsGirl (Post 18548495)
The part where you mentioned GFY trolling and people blaimg the victim, well you might be shocked to know that some of these are not trolls at all, but very complex software that can create not only message board profiles, but actual personas...

This software can then be used to make a person like yourself COMPLAINING ABOUT NOT GETTING YOUR MONEY...yes it will help make you look like the only one with the problem, and cause the public reading the boards to rethink and side with the bots....

very very masterful at the stunts they pull, you guys just don't give them enough credit...they have resources and contacts and they use them all

whut teh fukk...

porn500 11-10-2011 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 18549269)
whut teh fukk...

She's just a fucking retard, ignore her. :2 cents:

porn500 11-10-2011 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jreg81 (Post 18548988)
Call me a drama-boy or "extra-needy" or whatever you want. Means nothing Big Boy.

We still don't have our money. That is all that matters.

Day 14.


What part in their response did you not understand!?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Zombaio_Tomas (Post 18546582)
What we did in your case was to switch over this bounced payment via ACH (for your convenience) this Monday and if you look in ZOA you will actually see a new settlement date for the ACH which is 2011-11-17. However, you will probably get this a lot faster since we have flagged it as express.

We can only guarantee that the payments will go from us latest at the settlement date, but we can never guarantee any settlement cycles with all banks around the world.

In the "normal business world" things like this takes weeks to solve (B2B). Take it easy man.... get back here if you have not received the payment after the 17th.

Dirty F 11-10-2011 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwirlsGirl (Post 18548495)
The part where you mentioned GFY trolling and people blaimg the victim, well you might be shocked to know that some of these are not trolls at all, but very complex software that can create not only message board profiles, but actual personas...

This software can then be used to make a person like yourself COMPLAINING ABOUT NOT GETTING YOUR MONEY...yes it will help make you look like the only one with the problem, and cause the public reading the boards to rethink and side with the bots....

very very masterful at the stunts they pull, you guys just don't give them enough credit...they have resources and contacts and they use them all


:error

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jreg81 11-10-2011 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 18548745)
I just really like them. In the year I've used them they were late on one payment. I love my rates too. Some people are just drama queens or extra needy. All my support tickets have been answered promptly.

So I guess I'm a fanboy. :)


Fanboy,
I wish you were an affiliate we owed money to. Instead of paying you on-time, I would just wait til you "cried" about it on GFY so I could call you a drama queen and extra needy.:winkwink:

WarChild 11-10-2011 03:37 PM

SwirlsGirl is absolutely retarded. It seems to be a disturbing trend around here.

jreg81 11-10-2011 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porn500 (Post 18549287)
What part in their response did you not understand!?




In the "normal business world" things like this takes weeks to solve (B2B). Take it easy man.... get back here if you have not received the payment after the 17th.

Funny people.

Fella, it's been "weeks" already and I've "taken it easy" for that amount of time.

Those facts, along with the fact that it's certainly not the first occurrence, and the fact that there was very sub-par support/communication handling of this issue, all lead us to where we are now.

Do me a favor, sign up for our affiliate program and when you come to me asking why you haven't been paid on time, first I will tell you "I'll check on it, and get back to you via email." Then I won't email you when I said I would.

Then when you "moan" about it on GFY, I'll tell you to "take it eeeeaaaassssy, shit happens mannnn, it's just the normal business worrrrrrrrlllld". (in a really sleazy voice)

SwirlsGirl 11-10-2011 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jreg81 (Post 18551318)
Funny people.

Fella, it's been "weeks" already and I've "taken it easy" for that amount of time.

Those facts, along with the fact that it's certainly not the first occurrence, and the fact that there was very sub-par support/communication handling of this issue, all lead us to where we are now.

Do me a favor, sign up for our affiliate program and when you come to me asking why you haven't been paid on time, first I will tell you "I'll check on it, and get back to you via email." Then I won't email you when I said I would.

Then when you "moan" about it on GFY, I'll tell you to "take it eeeeaaaassssy, shit happens mannnn, it's just the normal business worrrrrrrrlllld". (in a really sleazy voice)

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BIGTYMER 11-10-2011 08:48 PM

I just got my first payment via ACH. Kick ass! Thanks Zombaio! Using ACH is going to save me a ton of money. :)

jreg81 11-11-2011 10:51 AM

UPDATE - The missing money has been received. Thank you Zombaio for your escalated attention in resolving this matter.

Thread closed.

EukerVoorn 11-11-2011 01:41 PM

You have every right to go public on this. Contacting the Zombaio support team should be enough. If they need a ticket in order to do their work, then they should create that ticket if you don't create one. If they say they will investigate and reply to you tomorrow, then that's what they should do. Whatever business you run and especially anything that has to do with banking and processing other people's money, you should always do what you promise. If that doesn't work, you go to GFY. Which shouldn't be a problem because if Zombaio was running a clean business, they wouldn't have anything to hide. They didn't do what they promised me some months ago either so I did the GFY routine too and wasn't happy with their answers and attitude and concluded that Zombaio is a sinking ship, set up credit card billing with two other processors and am happy with that. I have 57 memberships left with Zombaio and if they ever delay a payment and don't give proper support I'll remove the full Zombaio htpasswd list from my site and then Zombaio can deal with all the angry members not getting what they paid for and refund all of them; it will be Zombaio's problem, not mine.

Also, NOTHING can go wrong with bank wires unless your system is seriously fucked up, and I'm totally sure Zombaio's system is more than seriously fucked up. I already brought up in here weeks ago that they are charging card holders after they cancelled their subscriptions and recently found out that they reactivated cancelled subscriptions after cancellation and termination. I found three accounts like this, contacted all three card holders and two of them confirmed what I'm stating here. One account was reactivated 2 months after it was cancelled and terminated and all three accounts have been billed for two months in a row now. Also these accounts were not added back to the Zombaio htpasswd list, so these members are paying for something they cancelled without having access to what they're paying for.

Tomas wrote about this that it's not possible and that I should not make such statements and asked me for proof. Well Tomas the proof is on the bank statements of those credit card holders AND in your own system. Do your home work. And to use the words of your support team: "I'll look into this and contact you about this tomorrow". And that's a promise :wink wink:

Also you are still sending wires with all costs paid by the receiver and at the same time charging me extra for sending wires to me. How deep is your greed?

EukerVoorn 11-11-2011 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 18548745)
I just really like them. In the year I've used them they were late on one payment. I love my rates too. Some people are just drama queens or extra needy. All my support tickets have been answered promptly.

So I guess I'm a fanboy. :)

My first year with Zombaio was great too. About halfway the second year the shit started. So I guess you've got another thing coming :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Harmon 04-21-2014 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 18548272)
As much as I KNOW that Michael O had nothing to do with Epassporte, he fed everybody bullshit for the longest time. I am not saying this is the case here, but in all actuality I wouldn't go near anything or take anything he says as etched in stone. He is known in my book to stick up for con artists and thieves. That's his label... again, in my book.

Take it for what it's worth.

As for those ripping on this guy because he is missing money? What are the excuses? This is what I hear "SHIT HAPPENS".

Fuck that. People need their money. Pay the fucking guy even if you have to send a Mexican on a mule straight to his house with the cash. These are people's livelihoods. Don't downplay a situation around these parts. Most of you people that saw where that got us... Thank you Mr. Mallick, for making me a jaded douchebag.

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

ShowMe69 04-21-2014 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 20057116)
:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

It does seem as if "the chickens have come home to roost"

Paully 04-21-2014 03:56 AM

I still have half of my subscribers on zombaio. 220 rebills that will slowly make it over but if they think I'm gonna forget about them then they gonna be in the big trouble.


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