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DotXXX 11-14-2011 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 18559379)
:thumbsup:thumbsup However, I can see dot xxx being banned by many ISPs, states, countries, etc..

It's possible, but that applies to all porn on all domain extensions.

spazlabz 11-14-2011 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DotXXX (Post 18559348)
Don't you think that's just a little bit far reaching? As of right now the two key policies are relatively simple. No content that makes pedobear happy, and sites must be labeled (which is done automatically).

It is doubtful that .XXX will ever become mandatory, and ICM certainly isn't doing anything to even promote that as an idea.

What I really have a difficult time understanding is "So your whole business will be worthless at any time they choose to execute a stupid rule they come up with." Don't you think that the very idea, that a for-profit business would ever even consider intentionally doing anything to directly disenfranchise it's customer base, to be just a little bit ridiculous?

no it is not far reaching at all... it is drawing something out to an end that is a possibility even if it is a denied probability.

DotXXX 11-14-2011 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 18559395)
no it is not far reaching at all... it is drawing something out to an end that is a possibility even if it is a denied probability.

To what end? How would this scenario benefit ICM or it's customers?

Frank21 11-14-2011 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DotXXX (Post 18559348)
Don't you think that's just a little bit far reaching? As of right now the two key policies are relatively simple. No content that makes pedobear happy, and sites must be labeled (which is done automatically).

It is doubtful that .XXX will ever become mandatory, and ICM certainly isn't doing anything to even promote that as an idea.

What I really have a difficult time understanding is "So your whole business will be worthless at any time they choose to execute a stupid rule they come up with."

Uhm no thats not ridiculous if you study governments and globalist companies then you kow thats exactly whats gonna happen.
They always lure you with good rules and slowly implement more and more regulations which will dictate everything you do.
Just like google, facebook, "democracy" etc etc.

Thats why we have top stop this madness before it can be made mandatory indeed.
Do us all a favour and stop your scam!

What IS ridiculous is that you state yourself that your policys "FOR NOW" are this and that but you do know you will change this rules as soon as enough people have signed up for it.

RycEric 11-14-2011 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 18559379)
:thumbsup:thumbsup However, I can see dot xxx being banned by many ISPs, states, countries, etc..

I like that one. :thumbsup

DotXXX 11-14-2011 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank21 (Post 18559426)
Uhm no thats not ridiculous if you study governments and globalist companies then you kow thats exactly whats gonna happen.
They always lure you with good rules and slowly implement more and more regulations which will dictate everything you do.
Just like google, facebook, "democracy" etc etc.

Thats why we have top stop this madness before it can be made mandatory indeed.
Do us all a favour and stop your scam!

What IS ridiculous is that you state yourself that your policys "FOR NOW" are this and that but you do know you will change this rules as soon as enough people have signed up for it.

Please forgive me for laughing at your inclusion of "democracy." You were kidding right?

Yes, I do state that those policies are "for now." For example, IFFOR still needs to come to a determination for procedure if existing policies are violated. That in itself will eventually have to become part of policy. It does not however, mean that random policies will be enacted that will be detrimental to ICM and disenfranchise its customers. That would be to no ones benefit.

CyberHustler 11-14-2011 06:49 PM

Shit is all fucked up :1orglaugh

DotXXX 11-14-2011 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 18559639)
Shit is all fucked up :1orglaugh

That is a really tough statement to try to add anything helpful to. ;)

Frank21 11-14-2011 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DotXXX (Post 18559632)
Please forgive me for laughing at your inclusion of "democracy." You were kidding right?

Yes, I do state that those policies are "for now." For example, IFFOR still needs to come to a determination for procedure if existing policies are violated. That in itself will eventually have to become part of policy. It does not however, mean that random policies will be enacted that will be detrimental to ICM and disenfranchise its customers. That would be to no ones benefit.

No how can that be a joke?
We are being tricked in democracy and we get to vote, and slowly but by pre planned plan the system is becoming a dictatorship. While you still can vote your vote doesnt mean anything the system does whatever you want and whatever you vote.

It is very clear just by your intentions that you do want .XXX to become mandatory whatever you say does not matter since you and your organisation speaks with a double toung.

You say you THINK .XXX will not be mandatory therefore using this as argument isnt valid.
However you or your organisation states that it will be easy for parents to block porn by simply blocking .XXX sites on a PC, network or country.
Now this has totaly no use as only a small part of the sites is actualy on this .XXX extention.

So either you lie that you do not think .XXX will be mandatory or you lie by stating that anyone can block porn by blocking .XXX.

DotXXX 11-14-2011 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank21 (Post 18559681)
No how can that be a joke?
We are being tricked in democracy and we get to vote, and slowly but by pre planned plan the system is becoming a dictatorship. While you still can vote your vote doesnt mean anything the system does whatever you want and whatever you vote.

It is very clear just by your intentions that you do want .XXX to become mandatory whatever you say does not matter since you and your organisation speaks with a double toung.

You say you THINK .XXX will not be mandatory therefore using this as argument isnt valid.
However you or your organisation states that it will be easy for parents to block porn by simply blocking .XXX sites on a PC, network or country.
Now this has totaly no use as only a small part of the sites is actualy on this .XXX extention.

So either you lie that you do not think .XXX will be mandatory or you lie by stating that anyone can block porn by blocking .XXX.

I'm going to skip the politics if that's alright?

Our intentions are simply to run a successful business venture, both for ICM and for .XXX domain owners, not to make our product mandatory. I said it was doubtful that .XXX would become mandatory, and that ICM is in no way promoting that it should be, so it's an entirely valid argument.

ICM's view on adult content and it's accessibility is quite clear. Rather than quote several long paragraphs of text, may I point you to about dot xxx and the subfolder of the same name?

Site labeling will make it easy for parents wishing to keep adult content away from their minor children will find it very easy to block the entire domain. Consumers wishing to find specific content that is of interest to them will find that easier to do as well, with clear and precise domain names as well as on search dot xxx.

If I didn't answer your concerns, please forgive me, but I'm having some difficulty understanding your argument. :(

epitome 11-14-2011 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18556101)
Buying spots and buying traffic are not one in the same. But be that as it may, what kind of good spot could you get for $1,300? For how long?

Are they really different? I never knew that. I thought they were interchangable.

Programs buy spots all of the time on sites, even smaller sites. If I have a banner spot that I can usually get 10 sales a month from and I have a sponsor willing to pay me $450 for that spot up front when they usually give me $35 pps, guess which I am taking? Especially effective when the sponsor wants to be in the spot you are flying an in-house ad for another program.

Frank21 11-14-2011 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DotXXX (Post 18559928)
I'm going to skip the politics if that's alright?

Our intentions are simply to run a successful business venture, both for ICM and for .XXX domain owners, not to make our product mandatory. I said it was doubtful that .XXX would become mandatory, and that ICM is in no way promoting that it should be, so it's an entirely valid argument.

ICM's view on adult content and it's accessibility is quite clear. Rather than quote several long paragraphs of text, may I point you to about dot xxx and the subfolder of the same name?

Site labeling will make it easy for parents wishing to keep adult content away from their minor children will find it very easy to block the entire domain. Consumers wishing to find specific content that is of interest to them will find that easier to do as well, with clear and precise domain names as well as on search dot xxx.

If I didn't answer your concerns, please forgive me, but I'm having some difficulty understanding your argument. :(

I dont want to highjack TS his thread but it seems that your company can not even do the things they promise in emails let alone better the internet.
Your way of thinking of censoring everything is very dangerous indeed exactly what the governments are trying to do as well atm.

There is nothing wrong with the internet in my eyes so no need for ripoffs like .XXX.
100 dollar for a domainname OMG.
If it is only about the money as you claim it is then you can keep the money you extorted of mostly non-adult companys who had to buy their company.XXX name.

Because frankly anyone invested thousends, tens of thousends or even millions and thousends of hours in a pornsite isnt gonna change to a .XXX and redo or throw away everything only because it is easyer for pornsurfers to find.

If you try a google search you will find how easy it is actualy to find what you need. Weather it is porn or childgames.

There are filters to block porn way long ago just as there are labels to label your pornsite wich are implemented by all major search engines already.
And yes many Creditcard billers already require you to have this label embedded in the html.

Any kid or adult wich is not alowed to surf for porn will find it very easy to use a proxy to go around your scam.

Again your company does state all the time that this is the solution to prevent childporn and children seeing porn.
This goal can only be achieved if every website is behind the global .XXX censor wall.
Your goal can therefore only be achieved by making it mandatory sooner or later.
Wich will destroy everything i have worked hard for :mad: :321GFY

Oh and then "clear and precise domain names".....
So now you do not only want to censor the internet use trackers on every .XXX but also decide if someone is using a "clear and precise" domainname for his website?

What will happen if someone is using a domainname wich is not "clear and precise" ?


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