Shit happens...

Don't get me started, Maarten. Affiliates with 0 sales accumulates 46 sales the following period, wtf. Next period he'll have charge backs and refunds up the gazoo.
I'm sick of seeing this kind of constant bullshit play out. Links pulled!

tube biz is killing us, adapt it or die :D

not bad at all :)

The irony in this thread is meaning my brain melt

What's the members area like? I promote Revenge Bucks and have never had a chargeback and the rebills are always really high. I'm starting to promote Ama Kings so I'm really hoping I have better luck then the threads that have been appearing about them a lot.

Haha. Told you mothafuckas.

Gotcha. I've been focusing on their other movies, though I think I may have had a few Phil Varone sales.

LeighRoy18 sends his love


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pre-checked cross-sales? what is this - 2005?
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Stay on the right side of the biz, no cross-sells and members area with quality age verified content = party like it's 2012.

Amen! Don't fuck with your meal ticket.

I agree with the no cross sales, but as an affiliate what are we gonna do? Program A makes more money with cross sales than program B without them. And as said, it's not like they're hidden or anything. Every time I spend a penny online I make sure to read through everything and make sure I know exactly what I'm spending. I have absolutely no pity for the buyer. The cross sales might hurt in the end, but as an affiliate that means you can just move your traffic. And this part of my traffic is now moving to something with the conversions I expect, and also less fucking the customer over. Finally. I always want to promote the more honest program. :2 cents:

a pre-checked cross-sale is like going to the grocery store and finding out at checkout counter that the butcher put a pound of lunch meat in your cart without telling you. you might catch it at checkout or you might not.

cross-sales are great. only a scumbag pre-checks them. this is old news..
:2 cents:

So basically every program that does PPS is run by scumbags?
There are not many PPS programs without at least 1 pre-checked xsale.

Most customers are educated enough to uncheck pre-checked xsales. I'm sure if you book a flight ticket you'd uncheck the pre-checked travel insurance etc. as well.

thats a stretch. why put words into my mouth? i was pretty clear.

i only mentioned cross-sales, but i can get into pps if you want. like how does the average pps program afford a $100 payout when most members dont rebill?
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Plenty of sites use shady cross sales. I've seen hidden cross sales 5 rows below the submit button in fine print. That isn't right... I'm not talking about amakings.

LOL. That's what I don't get, once you go 0:2,000-3,000 why keep sending them traffic? Send that traffic to me if ya want, I'll give you more than negative $112 for 20k+ unique visitors, (I don't care where it came from). :)

When registering for amakings.
Yea... how about no... although the grammatical errors are a nice touch.
My favorite part of the registration e-mail is...

Really? The ONLY WAY?
How does every other mainstream and adult program I've ever used for the past decade do it?

It's your right to require anything you want, but disclose it upfront before you collect personal information from me.

worthwhile bump. thats pretty wack..
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This is why I don't even bother to sign up for programs like this anymore. Posts on webmaster forums about shady shit = program that will only cause you trouble in the end. It's often a never ending stream of crap too. First you have this verification crap, then you have the cross sales, then you have the massive chargebacks, then you have the shitty ratios. Definite patterns there.