Michael Moore full of shit? Say it isn't so....

I like the "other than the criminals" part. Proves why I choose to protect myself.

I don't remember saying otherwise.

In which part of that movie wasn't he totally full of shit?

Maybe you should move out of the ghetto?

lol, yea that's it.

I live in a private, gated, security guarded resort. But it is in Florida.
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Yes to each their own. I've had a CCW license at times, then when I had some less responsible people living with me I sold the pistols. Now we each have a Glock at our desk, while I generally don't carry outside the house and office. Each adult has to make their own decision based on their situation.

It would be interesting to see a state or area (larger than Kennesaw) where 10% or more were properly trained and carrying. Since the predators wouldn't know who was armed and who wasn't, I'd bet crime would be nearly unheard of.

When did I say that?? Of course there is. All I'm saying is canadians are not like americans we don't feel the need to arm ourselves for protection hence why I said to each their own. If you feel the need to carry a gun so be it. I don't, I'm born and raised in Toronto and I've never felt the need for a gun. Someone could break into my house at anytime but I just don't have that fear that seems to come with gun owners. Like I said I've Never seen a gun in my life and that is perfectly fine with me.

You know who REALLY made women and men equal??? Smith & Wesson... :thumbsup :thumbsup

lol yeah I was taking the piss.

In reality you have nothing to worry about?

It's a bit like thinking about how you are going to spend all those millions when you win the lottery.

Toronto eh? take a trip out to west to Winnipeg homie

http://www.ndngirls.com/tour2/shimmyndngirls.jpg

Bryan G, There's health insurance, car insurance, fire insurance, etc. I view guns as protection insurance. It's there but hopefully will never be used. Again, I don't own one out of fear. I own one to be prepared. I also really enjoy target shooting them.

I grew up in a military family/household, my father was also a big hunter. Guns were always around and were never viewed as a big deal so naturally I don't see what the issue with owning one is.

I think a lot of the "difference" if that's the word to use, between pro/con ownership also has to do with comfort levels around firearms. I'm very comfortable so it's second nature having one around. Anyway, take care man.

(and situational awareness is the most important defense and no gun is required for that)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_pol...Czech_Republic

even i as a foreigner could carry if i wanted, but why?

lol, dead on. The "what if" factor really is huge in both examples.

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FEAR??? Sorry but I don't own a gun because I am living in *fear*... I own a gun because I enjoy guns... I have an old school huge metal Bronco that weighs 6000+ lbs V8... I did not buy my big badass Bronco dog truck because I live in *fear* of getting into an accident and dying, I drive it because I love how big the fucker is and how powerful it is...
I did not get my dog Lars because I have *fear* of people attacking me... I got him because I love how gorgeous he is, how powerful he is and the fact that he will kick ass on the spot (plus he is a big giant goofball)
I have my guns because I enjoy my guns... I enjoy shooting them and collecting them... I was raised with guns, all my friends were raised with guns and no one I know died from being shot accidently... we were all taught gun safty and taught how to be responsible with our guns, just as we were taught how to drive safely and be responsible with our cars and the same goes with handling Lars... LOL
As I said I enjoy guns... AND there happens to be a bonus in owning a gun, just as Aaron pointed out, this country has had guns for 200+ years, they are not going away, and removing them from good people, myself or Aaron or his wife or any other responsible gun owner, is not going to solve any problems because, as Aaron pointed out already, the Fucktards in the world do not obtain guns legally, and you can bet your ass that they will still get a gun no matter what gun control laws try to restrict MY gun ownership... Laws only affect law abiders... It is what it is... So based on that there is a side bonus in owning a gun...

I know there is evil in the world and I believe in being prepared and safe... I see and hear about Fucktards raping and killing people in their homes all the time (yes it happens in Canada too) and *IF* one of them happened to stop by my home, I have the means to stop them...

I live just as you do... The only difference is, *IF* someone comes in my home to rape and kill me I have the ability to stop them, you don't... (once again rape and murder happen in Canada too, thank you very much)

My Alarm System: (and backup)
http://lorynslounge.com/lars032.JPG

My Fucktard Stopper:
http://lorynslounge.com/gun27.JPG

The family in Cheshire, Connecticut may have had a WAY better chance of still being alive today if the wife (or daughters) had had access to a gun... Once these fucktards beat the husband with his own bat and dragged him into his own home to do as they please with his family, the wife could have had the chance to run to a gun, or if not her one of the daughters, (When I was their age my father had already taught me gun safty and taught me how to shoot a gun, 357 magnum revoler was the first gun I shot) but if the family had a gun one of them could have grabbed it and started shooting... Both those fuckers could have been shot dead or at least would have left, to be caught later, because the risk to them would have been greater... The family's chances for survival would have been much much much greater... but instead the wife was strangled to death, doused in gasoline and set on fire and the 2 young daughters where tied to their bed ALIVE, doused in gasoline and set on fire, AFTER all 3 were repeatedly raped and listened to their loved ones being repeatedly raped...

STORY ABOUT THE FUCKTARDS WHO SHOULD BE ASS RAPED DAILY AND BURNED ALIVE STARTING FROM THEIR FEET (with a nice health shot of adrenaline first, to ensure they don't pass out from the pain)

So let me ask ya this, when you put on a condom, to fuck a girl, are you *in fear* or are you just being protective (as us guns owners would say) from what evil you know is out there and what could happen to you if you don't??? Oh wait, you're Canadian, you said you don't arm yourself for protection eh???... LOL :winkwink: (don't get butt hurt I am just fucking with you Bryan, on the last part anyway LOL)

yeah no idea why someone would want to pop a nigga creeping around with a camera trying to shoot porn videos with local girls. must be the city. :1orglaugh

still bizarre why all these seemingly well to do american's who i assume live in ok areas have people continually busting in and trying to rape and rob them all the time. something is fucked up there.

^^Giving a little girl a .357 magnum revolver as her first handgun to shoot is pretty irresponsible, IMO. The only reason I can see someone doing that is to get a laugh out of you getting jerked around from the recoil, and you're probably lucky you went home with all your teeth in your mouth that day.

Loryn is that S&W 44 mag or a 500 mag?

we are talking about the gaza strip yeah ?

sounds like a great place though, seriously

everyone so relaxed and carefree, must be awesome wondering who is going to kill you or who you have to kill next

sorry where was this place again ?

Yes this story makes me sick. I still can't imagine the horror the family went through.

It's too bad these assholes will be on death row for the next 25 years.

ok sure people like guns to to protect themselves, whatever. but why are their gangs and criminals busting in homes and robbing and raping all the time? is that the united states or Somalia?

that's not normal.

I'm afraid of guns. They make loud noises, and loud noises scare me.

Same reason your house keeps catching on fire.

i make all the bank deposits LOL

not arguing about gun rights yo, just the fact this woman was just shooting randomly and is not the best example of good gun use is all. bystanders are hit more often than people admit.

I would have preferred to read she shot dead on and killed him, than read she was shooting in the air and probably wildly and more than once at the perp.

Im all for guns, but safety first

It doesn't bother people that someone of your experience and ability owns and decide to protect yourself with guns. You seem balanced enough and comfortable enough with them that there wouldn't be a case of innocent bystanders at risk.

It's the people who don't have a fucking clue about them other than guns are cool and will protect me that spikes the fear in the rest of the planet, because people like that are dangerous. These aren't people who can protect themselves if someone breaks in, these are the same people who end up killing their own family members or the neighbours because of the fact they don't know what they are doing. Going to the range 2 or 3 times isn't going to fix that. If you look close you will even find a few of these types blathering away in this thread even, it is usually pretty obvious.