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CaptainHowdy 11-15-2011 04:46 AM

Like or ban ...

PR_Glen 11-15-2011 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18559992)
There is simply no reason why the school would bring in some porn chick in to read to the class, but I don't have a problem with it. They have all probably been exposed to PornHub anyway.

where you born this cynical or has it gotten worse over the years? Nothing short of a disease...

cherrylula 11-15-2011 06:13 AM

It isn't a big deal, but if she is not a porn star anymore and wants to spend time with children now, why is she still using her PORN name? And why through all this is she referred to as her porn name?

did they introduce her to those kids, with her PORN name??? lol

Fletch XXX 11-15-2011 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AVN Theo (Post 18559906)
A few days ago when the TMZ story on Sasha Grey broke, I had a discussion with a world famous celebrity where we both shared how cool it was that Sasha was reading to kids and that it is ridiculous for people to complain or have any kind of concerns. Seeing how interesting it was as a topic of discussion here at GFY too, I asked our editor-in-chief to assign to one of our senior editors to write a story on it. Our editor decided to use satire as a literature style, using this literary device to illustrate the point of how ridiculous the critics were who were bashing Sasha for helping to educate young students.

just curious do you have children?

Ive noticed, many people who post about this, do not.

Caligari 11-15-2011 06:23 AM

:1orglaugh you've got to be shitting me. (que currently sober)

first off the pic of the silk Burka clad woman.

secondly the author: Ann Oui :winkwink:

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Ann Oui is a longtime contributor to the AVN suite of editorial products, including the AVN Online and AVN magazine titles. Born in Vietnam, Ann's father, Jacques Oui, was a high ranking French delegate with international degrees in political science who married into an aristocratic Vietnamese family before being summarily executed in the waning days of France's colonial war with North Vietnamese communists. The execution was later deemed to be a mistake, however, the result of a gambling debt gone tragically wrong.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Even before getting to the article.



good piece overall, i hope you guys do more.



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Fletch XXX 11-15-2011 06:28 AM

Also, it seems now owners of programs are contacting the school wanting their porn girls to come read to kids now.

"So impressed was he with her civic-minded move, and no doubt seeing the upside for adult, Vivid co-founder Steven Hirsch fired off a letter to the school's principal, Ms. Sydney Ritchey-Burnett lauding her for having the courage to invite Grey, along with volunteering Vivid stars Chyna and Allie Haze to do the same."

So it quickly jumps from the "I used to do porn (she was making porn less than 6 months ago?) and goes to current porn stars reading to kids. Just what we need!

Anyone can see the problems with this, but I guess once you been in this biz so long most get decensitized to common sense.

For the record, if a teen sex content producer tried reading to kids it would blow up too.... these people put their own exposure before educating kids.

kristin 11-15-2011 06:30 AM

I have kids in school, I see how broke schools are and this happened in Compton. I have a feeling they might have some issues getting volunteers. So with that, read way to the little ones. However using her porn name was retarded.

DarkJedi 11-15-2011 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AVN Theo (Post 18559906)
I had a discussion with a world famous celebrity

you talked with Juicy?

whoa...

cherrylula 11-15-2011 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by kristin (Post 18560454)
I have kids in school, I see how broke schools are and this happened in Compton. I have a feeling they might have some issues getting volunteers. So with that, read way to the little ones. However using her porn name was retarded.

That's what makes this wrong. The name thing. It's like publicity for adults (see porn name) featuring kids. FAIL.

If she didn't use her porn name, and was kept low profile to actually do something good for children this wouldn't be an issue. But it is some press releases featuring a porn star with her porn name reading to kids. It is not okay. And yeah, the parents of those kids in COMPTON probably don't give a shit.

Let's see how many porn stars use their porn names and go read to kids in an upper class hood. :helpme

ottopottomouse 11-15-2011 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 18559912)
It's sad that you have to explain what is obvious satire. :(

Pretty poor attempt at satire.

Caligari 11-15-2011 06:57 AM

50 Ann Ouis ;)

Caligari 11-15-2011 06:58 AM

I got nuthin;)

tony286 11-15-2011 07:15 AM

I would rather have porn stars read to kids and watch my kids. You dont hear about porn stars molesting children.You hear about teachers,priests,coaches doing it all the time.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 11-15-2011 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AVN Theo (Post 18560211)

Investigation goes back to billing practices from 2 years ago. There's a time for everything, this time hasn't come yet, neither it will be limited on a post shared at gfy/avn. That would be really pointless.

http://www.thetaoofmakingmoney.com/w...redit-card.jpg

"Billing practices"... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

ADG

GonZo 11-15-2011 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AVN Theo (Post 18559996)
I had to address it since few people went as far as asking us to fire our editor. This is the same editor who spent his Friday and the weekend away from home and family to discuss and contribute on important matters of the industry like has been doing so for over a decade. If everyone had the same degree of dedication our industry would had been far better.

You certainly have a strange choice of battles youve picked to fight this past year . . .

GonZo 11-15-2011 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 18560531)
I would rather have porn stars read to kids and watch my kids. You dont hear about porn stars molesting children.You hear about teachers,priests,coaches doing it all the time.

:thumbsup
+1

Jman 11-15-2011 07:38 AM

Sasha Grey (born Marina Ann Hantzis)

Why still use Sasha Grey with the kids?

She should be her true self with such young kids and drop the porn star name. IMHO this was just a "Let's boost the media attention" move.

Couldn't care less that a girl who loves to get fucked in the ass reads to kids. They are allowed to like kids like the rest of us. But do it for the right reasons and not for a selfish one.

Babaganoosh 11-15-2011 07:43 AM

I used to write for one of the most popular satire sites on the internet. Nothing on the site was true yet there were constant emails from mental midgets who found the articles via forum posts from other outraged idiots. It was sad and hilarious all at the same time.

Back then I made the suggestion that we should be posting all of the hate mail on the site so those that "got it" could laugh at the idiots too. To the best of my knowledge they've never posted the reader hate mail.

Now, with Facebook the stupid messages from people who don't understand satire is made public for everyone to enjoy.
http://literallyunbelievable.org/

tony286 11-15-2011 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Crak_JMan (Post 18560580)
Sasha Grey (born Marina Ann Hantzis)

Why still use Sasha Grey with the kids?

She should be her true self with such young kids and drop the porn star name. IMHO this was just a "Let's boost the media attention" move.

Couldn't care less that a girl who loves to get fucked in the ass reads to kids. They are allowed to like kids like the rest of us. But do it for the right reasons and not for a selfish one.

I think its because she isnt a shamed of what she did or who she is. Kudos to her.

Jman 11-15-2011 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 18560616)
I think its because she isnt a shamed of what she did or who she is. Kudos to her.

Is she a shamed of her real name?

My point Tony is why Use your "stage name" when you have a real name you could share with the kids?

Caligari 11-15-2011 08:07 AM

Kid: Hey mom and dad, Sasha Grey just read to us today.

Mom: What! I'm calling the school district right now!

Dad: Pics or it didn't happen.




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RyuLion 11-15-2011 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AVN Theo (Post 18559977)
Out of topic - ADG, when we'll have completed it you'll see the results posted here.

Thanks bro! :pimp

pornguy 11-15-2011 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18560058)
as Uno said, satire is supposed to be funny. that editorial wasn't - sarcastic.ironic yes.

those parents are fucking idiots, it wouldn't matter to those little kids if the woman was a serial killer - the kids don't know who Sasha Grey is, they could have told the kids she was the Vice President of the United States or a soap opera star, it wouldn't matter. all that mattered to them is that a pretty lady came to their class and read to them. and that's all that should have mattered.

now if it had been Ron Jeremy............... ha.........

even if it had been Ron it still wouldn't have mattered.

if the kids were older than I can see some parents objecting to a porn star being invited into a classroom. still wouldn't agree with them but i wouldn't have a problem with porn stars being persona non gratas(sp?) in a classroom.



Yep. When it was brought up by the first parent, I would have asked. " How do you know she was a PornStar?" "Surf Porn Much?"

Coup 11-15-2011 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 18560492)
Pretty poor attempt at satire.

If you think I was attempting satire, then you just don't know shit about shit. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

CaptainHowdy 11-15-2011 09:56 AM

http://i42.tinypic.com/2pyxmo2.jpg

JFK 11-15-2011 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Crak_JMan (Post 18560632)
Is she a shamed of her real name?

My point Tony is why Use your "stage name" when you have a real name you could share with the kids?

perhaps it was an attempt to stir controversy ?:2 cents:

ottopottomouse 11-15-2011 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 18560796)
If you think I was attempting satire, then you just don't know shit about shit. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

If you think I think you were attempting satire you have the brains of a rocking horse.

Jman 11-15-2011 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 18560997)
perhaps it was an attempt to stir controversy ?:2 cents:

Of course it was, shit was getting calm for her so she needed the media on her. If she had used her real name we probably would never heard any of it.

Imortyl Pussycat 11-15-2011 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 18560123)
seriously, now think about this. Seriously.

Can the people you had to explain that to actually understand the explanation?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh good point

JP-pornshooter 11-15-2011 10:56 AM

Sasha has done some mainstream crossover, perhaps she feels her name is not just a porn name.
In any case I think it is fine she volunteers to read for kids but it would have been proper to use her regular legal name and not her "celebrity status" as a pornstar.

I remember a few years ago I think it was Jenna Jameson was un-invited to the annual Marine Corp Ball at Camp Pendleton. Just shows you the disapproval rating of real live porn people..

ilnjscb 11-15-2011 11:02 AM

Theo, you are correct that article caused a stir - it was all over twitter. I imagine most people just skimmed it, saw that it was a "standard" opinion, and then went on without really getting into it.

Satire is harder when you are a venue not known for satire, when you are effectively the voice of an industry, and when the base story is all over the mainstream press.

Probably people expected a reasoned answer, not satire.

_Richard_ 11-15-2011 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 18561132)
Theo, you are correct that article caused a stir - it was all over twitter. I imagine most people just skimmed it, saw that it was a "standard" opinion, and then went on without really getting into it.

Satire is harder when you are a venue not known for satire, when you are effectively the voice of an industry, and when the base story is all over the mainstream press.

Probably people expected a reasoned answer, not satire.

kinda like it was written for that very reason

O MARINA 11-15-2011 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Crak_JMan (Post 18560632)
Is she a shamed of her real name?

My point Tony is why Use your "stage name" when you have a real name you could share with the kids?



I don't want her using my name, thank you.

jimmycooper 11-15-2011 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 18560556)
http://www.thetaoofmakingmoney.com/w...redit-card.jpg

"Billing practices"... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

ADG

I still have yet to see a single one of your posts that serves to justify your existence. Unless, of course, you're planning on making a series of picture books for children with each individual book focusing on an adult industry related issue. Tam I Am, Green Eggs And Ham?

http://i.imgur.com/H6Lbf.jpg

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Originally Posted by Crak_JMan (Post 18560580)
Sasha Grey (born Marina Ann Hantzis)

Why still use Sasha Grey with the kids?

She should be her true self with such young kids and drop the porn star name. IMHO this was just a "Let's boost the media attention" move.

Couldn't care less that a girl who loves to get fucked in the ass reads to kids. They are allowed to like kids like the rest of us. But do it for the right reasons and not for a selfish one.

Unless you're suggesting that Sting, Tom Cruise, Woody Allen, and Gene Simmons should go by Gordon Sumner, Tom Mapother, Allen Konigsberg, and Chaim Witz when doing charitable work, and I'm banking on the fact that you're not, I think it's reasonable to assume that the only reason you or anyone here is taking issue with her choice of name is because you really don't think porn stars should read to kids but since you also work in the industry, you don't want to admit it to yourself or others so, in criticizing her stage name, you hope to successfully straddle the line. Instead, you occupy a place that I like to refer to as The Land of Retard.

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Originally Posted by AVN Theo (Post 18560248)
not Cameron Diaz

Olivia Wilde ?

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Originally Posted by AVN Theo (Post 18560222)
to refresh some memories

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hustler...ine_v._Falwell


Starting from the month of January we'll include in our magazine on a monthly basis a piece of satire or parody. It will be either a story or a cartoon. If you're a cartoonist you can provide some samples please send an email to [email protected]

Can't wait to see what comes of it. Here's the full digital archive for Spy Magazine which is fun to read and probably has a bunch of idea generating concepts and ideas. The best issues are from the late 80s and early 90's. http://books.google.com/books/serial...=&sa=N&start=0

I don't know if it would be classified as a satire, parody, spoof, or just pure crap, but I know that I had a great time writing about Saul Darkham, the King Of Porn. The problem was, and I don't want to mention any names or anything, but the problem was that I based the character on an apparently real person who really just says the same thing over and over again, which I felt kind of limited my options as to where I could go with the character. With that being said, i think it set me up well to introduce a new fictional character which I've been toying around with in my spare time and one who does not have that same problem. This new character, if described in a nutshell, would be best described as kind of like a combination of Patrick Bateman, Mike South, Edmund Dantes, and myself. He is Count Chatsworth. Look out for him in Spring 2012. Or after. :thumbsup

Sly 11-16-2011 09:15 AM

I just read the write up right now and it isn't what I would consider a satire. When I think of satire I think of something funny or over-the-top, exposing the ridiculousness of a situation. This reads like a regular opinion from a concerned parent, nothing more. I guess I'm missing it.

Caligari 11-16-2011 09:21 AM

Fuck it-
Ann Oui - ennui - en-nui - \ˌän-ˈwē\ - boredom
<the kind of ennui that comes from having too much time on one's hands and too little will to find something productive to do>
"When the antiproton was discovered … it sent a wave of ennui through the physics community. Not that its discovery was unimportant, but on the basis of Dirac's theory, everybody expected it."

French, from Old French "enui" - annoyance



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BlackCrayon 11-16-2011 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 18562057)

Unless you're suggesting that Sting, Tom Cruise, Woody Allen, and Gene Simmons should go by Gordon Sumner, Tom Mapother, Allen Konigsberg, and Chaim Witz when doing charitable work, and I'm banking on the fact that you're not, I think it's reasonable to assume that the only reason you or anyone here is taking issue with her choice of name is because you really don't think porn stars should read to kids but since you also work in the industry, you don't want to admit it to yourself or others so, in criticizing her stage name, you hope to successfully straddle the line. Instead, you occupy a place that I like to refer to as The Land of Retard.



Those people mostly do charity work to promote themselves, just like sasha did. had she used her real name no one would of known or cared so that wouldn't of achieved what she wanted to achieve, to keep her name in the mainstream media.

_Richard_ 11-16-2011 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18563441)
I just read the write up right now and it isn't what I would consider a satire. When I think of satire I think of something funny or over-the-top, exposing the ridiculousness of a situation. This reads like a regular opinion from a concerned parent, nothing more. I guess I'm missing it.

well.. my statement: Obama is a socialist

to me that's satire, but to 50% of the nation..

Sophie Delancey 11-16-2011 09:54 AM

I love a little satire. It's so delicious.

jimmycooper 11-16-2011 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18563463)
Those people mostly do charity work to promote themselves, just like sasha did. had she used her real name no one would of known or cared so that wouldn't of achieved what she wanted to achieve, to keep her name in the mainstream media.

Are you inside her head?

I like to think that I'm at least somewhat intelligent, but I'm afraid I can't speak intelligently about the thought process Sasha Grey goes through when deciding to do some charitable work. Neither can you.

Maybe she did it for the publicity, maybe she didn't. It really doesn't matter. Many charitable deeds are done for self serving purposes.

If anyone has a problem with people who donate time or money to charitable causes for self serving purposes,they should write their congressperson and ask them to initiate legislation to eliminate tax deductions for charitable donations. Sure, the net result might be that less money is donated to charity, but it's not about the charities themselves, it's about what's inside the head of the charitable worker.

You should also put me on your shit list because I once helped build a house for about 18 hours on a weekend simply because I wanted to fuck the girl who asked me if I would do it with her. It doesn't get anymore self serving than that and despite the fact that my deciding to do it right at the last minute helped alleviate the fact that 3 people failed to show, I am just a selfish, selfish cunt. Never mind that a house was built or that people would soon live in that house.


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