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EukerVoorn 11-19-2011 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18571804)
We couldn't even participate in Sunrise A if we wanted to

Why not? I don't get it, pls explain?

AdultKing 11-19-2011 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by EukerVoorn (Post 18572228)
Why not? I don't get it, pls explain?

ICM Registry have reserved an array of domains, which they call premium domains. If your trademark / pre-existing domain name happens to match one of these reserved domains you have no way of claiming the equivalent .xxx domain until such time as ICM Registry decide to hold you to ransom for it through an auction process or similar.

These so called premium domains were not made available through Sunrise or Landrush.

DotXXX 11-20-2011 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18571048)
So the ICM hasn't been giving free .xxx domains to hasbeen models in exchange for their support?

No. There is an adult performer program, where performer names have been reserved. It prevent cyber-squatting performer names, which is a common occurrence, but performers still need to purchase their domains.

CyberHustler 11-20-2011 10:50 PM

:1orglaugh

DotXXX 11-20-2011 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 18571072)
So can you explain why there are already sites running on .xxx that are not the trademarked owner of the domain name?

And why there are already sites auctioned off to people before the landrush date? How does that work?

I think these "sunrise" periods are pretty shady gray area considering people are already acquiring xxx domains. gay? shemale? someone owns the trademarks to those? Please explain.

All the info you can give us here in gfy will help. I wanted to register a domain already but when I read that I was not guaranteed the name I declined. Now I just don't know if I even want to having seen what has gone on prior to the landrush.

Congrats to those who got nice domains already, but some of us still have questions. I look forward to your answers! Thanks!

It would take pages to give a full explanation, because first we would have to cover trademarks in general. A layman's single sentence summary would be, everyday common words, cannot be trademarked. (And that is really an overly broad statement, because there of course, are a few notable exceptions. - If you're really interested, email me, and I'd be happy to share a site with you that does a good job of explaining it.)

You may still have an opportunity for your chosen name during landrush. Only about 5-10% of available names go to auction, and those are closed auctions, only between those that have applied for the name during landrush. So if you look on buy.xxx for cherrylula.xxx for example, and it says 'available' - you can apply to buy it. if no one else has applied for it - it's yours. If one other person has applied, only you and that other person go to a closed auction for the name. But really, what are the chances that someone else will try to buy cherrylula.xxx?

epitome 11-20-2011 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18571170)
hang on, your now guranteeing hits that will convert to .xxx sites?

last time i looked at the ste it said it guranteed that no virases would be on .xxx sites and also no one under 18 could access a .xxx site.

is this still the case?

i presume you will componstate site owners if you fail to provide the service you offer. and from what i gather part of the overprced cost on the domain incl;udes these servises.

so are you guranting that if somone buys a .xxx they will make sales from it? and f not will get a full refund plus compensation?

That's the beauty of the scam.

ICM can promise you a billion dollars but if they don't pay you agree that you can't hold them liable for anything when buying your domain.

While the customer may agree not to sue them, the FTC can ... so if you buy a domain and are not immediately delivered all that was promised pre-launch, file a complaint at ftc.gov.

Once 100 or more people file a complaint they will get the attention of the FTC.

DotXXX 11-20-2011 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18571175)
please define "many of our registrants".

please define "a suitable return on investment".

As with any site on any domain, a very large part of its success is up to the domain/site owner.

It would be unrealistic for me to say "ALL," however, ICMRegistry is investing over 25 million in mainstream advertising alone over the next year, as well as the programs in development that are intended to drive traffic. We want .XXX domain owners to be successful and we're investing a lot to help with that.

epitome 11-20-2011 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DotXXX (Post 18574773)
As with any site on any domain, a very large part of its success is up to the domain/site owner.

It would be unrealistic for me to say "ALL," however, ICMRegistry is investing over 25 million in mainstream advertising alone over the next year, as well as the programs in development that are intended to drive traffic. We want .XXX domain owners to be successful and we're investing a lot to help with that.

Why mainstream advertising since its for the adult industry?

Ah, because defensive registrations is your real business plan?

I hope the mainstream companies that sue you for extortion quote your post in their suits.

bean-aid 11-20-2011 11:32 PM

I would like to reserve about.xxx, how do I do it? I can't figure a god damn thing out except to pay about $100 to $200 to a registrar for a fucking reservation of a domain name that could, or could not, be mine.

DotXXX 11-20-2011 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18572245)
ICM Registry have reserved an array of domains, which they call premium domains. If your trademark / pre-existing domain name happens to match one of these reserved domains you have no way of claiming the equivalent .xxx domain until such time as ICM Registry decide to hold you to ransom for it through an auction process or similar.

These so called premium domains were not made available through Sunrise or Landrush.

The "premium" domains that ICM Registry have held in reserve are "generics" as I explained to cherrylula above. If you have the dot com equivalent of one of those names, you are more than welcome to email us and tell us why you should get that particular name at no premium. We certainly encourage it and it might be worth a try.

In fact we invite people to talk to us about them for whatever reason, with development ideas etc.

DotXXX 11-20-2011 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner (Post 18574794)
I would like to reserve about.xxx, how do I do it? I can't figure a god damn thing out except to pay about $100 to $200 to a registrar for a fucking reservation of a domain name that could, or could not, be mine.

about.xxx is obviously already in use. If you have a more specific question, I'd be happy to answer it for you.

epitome 11-20-2011 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DotXXX (Post 18574823)
about.xxx is obviously already in use. If you have a more specific question, I'd be happy to answer it for you.

Pretty sure about.com is a registered trademark and I am certain the company is owned by the new York times.

What if they want to block their .xxx domain?

AdultKing 11-21-2011 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DotXXX (Post 18574816)
The "premium" domains that ICM Registry have held in reserve are "generics" as I explained to cherrylula above. If you have the dot com equivalent of one of those names, you are more than welcome to email us and tell us why you should get that particular name at no premium. We certainly encourage it and it might be worth a try.

In fact we invite people to talk to us about them for whatever reason, with development ideas etc.

Outright lie. Blatant outrageous distortion of the truth.

We owned this domain in another TLD in 1995. Nobody else had done porn trading using this particular name, there is nothing generic about it - it's not a dictionary word.

You have reserved it because it's short and memorable and intend to extort as much as you can for it.

When I emailed during sunrise A I was basically told "too bad so sad get stuffed"

As I have said, we are watching it closely and the very moment it goes to someone other than us then expect a summons. We'll be launching legal proceedings in two jurisdictions to ensure that we inflict as much pain as possible on ICM registry for screwing us.

DotXXX 11-21-2011 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by HandballJim (Post 18571752)
Can you explain the auction process if you have multiple applications for the same domain name, how long will this auction take place, will it be transparent, I am sure nobody wants to bid against a computer bot.

If you don't get the domain you want, who is refunding the application fee? and how long will it take to be refunded. Will the refund come from ICM or the domain register?

I'll have to get back to you on the auction process and it's timeframe. I believe that all auctions should be complete by General Availability on December 6th, but it's entirely possibly that that's wishful thinking.

The Landrush fee is split into two elements: 1. a non-refundable element and 2. the registration fee which is refundable in all cases for those failing to acquire a name.

We are expecting only 10% or less of Landrush applications to go to auction if this Landrush follows that of other TLD's. Please check with your registrar regarding refunds, but note, that we don't charge the registrar the registration fee portion until the domain is actually awarded, so refunds should be rapid from the registrar.


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Also who is taking the liability if someone does win the domain at auction and a couple months later someone sends a S&D letter asking for the domain name...since they own the other extensions.

You said you like answering questions...so here is some tough ones.
As in all cases the registrant takes the risk against any infringing activity against trademark holders. You should seek advice on this point from your legal representative.

DotXXX 11-21-2011 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18574845)
Outright lie. Blatant outrageous distortion of the truth.

We owned this domain in another TLD in 1995. Nobody else had done porn trading using this particular name, there is nothing generic about it - it's not a dictionary word.

You have reserved it because it's short and memorable and intend to extort as much as you can for it.

When I emailed during sunrise A I was basically told "too bad so sad get stuffed"

As I have said, we are watching it closely and the very moment it goes to someone other than us then expect a summons. We'll be launching legal proceedings in two jurisdictions to ensure that we inflict as much pain as possible on ICM registry for screwing us.

If you would like to email me, I'd be happy to look into it for you.

DotXXX 11-21-2011 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18574832)
Pretty sure about.com is a registered trademark and I am certain the company is owned by the new York times.

What if they want to block their .xxx domain?

I'm compelled to respond to this once because you've asked earnestly and without malice, but it's a question I cannot answer because of how it could be construed. I am however, willing to play a game with you to help you come to the correct conclusion.

Want to play?

bean-aid 11-21-2011 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DotXXX (Post 18574873)
I'm compelled to respond to this once because you've asked earnestly and without malice, but it's a question I cannot answer because of how it could be construed. I am however, willing to play a game with you to help you come to the correct conclusion.

Want to play?

I would like to play as well as reserve about.xxx

so lets do it...

DotXXX 11-21-2011 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by beaner (Post 18574876)
I would like to play as well as reserve about.xxx

so lets do it...

Probably not going to happen re: about.xxx. If you have some amazing and wonderful ideas on how to develop it though, I suppose I can pass it along for you.

Still want to play?

bean-aid 11-21-2011 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DotXXX (Post 18574879)
Probably not going to happen re: about.xxx. If you have some amazing and wonderful ideas on how to develop it though, I suppose I can pass it along for you.

Still want to play?

Yes... I do.

First... I'm sure NY times will be thrilled to have their site name on a xxx site.

Second... I want to reserve a fetish site. the name being pantyhose.xxx

how can I get that site reserved?

CyberHustler 11-21-2011 12:41 AM


DotXXX 11-21-2011 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by beaner (Post 18574889)
Yes... I do.

First... I'm sure NY times will be thrilled to have their site name on a xxx site.

Second... I want to reserve a fetish site. the name being pantyhose.xxx

how can I get that site reserved?

First, Good. In that case a disclaimer must apply. The game is with PRbot, not ICMRegistry. Everything related to the game is solely the opinion of PRBot.

The game is to draw the correct conclusion about a particular trademark. I'll give hints, you give the answers.

First hint. Find the trademark.


Second, if you have some great development ideas for pantyhose.xxx you can email me at the address in my signature and I will pass it along, or you can email directly to premium at icmregistry dot com. We'd love to hear from you.

bean-aid 11-21-2011 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DotXXX (Post 18574912)
First, Good. In that case a disclaimer must apply. The game is with PRbot, not ICMRegistry. Everything related to the game is solely the opinion of PRBot.

The game is to draw the correct conclusion about a particular trademark. I'll give hints, you give the answers.

First hint. Find the trademark.


Second, if you have some great development ideas for pantyhose.xxx you can email me at the address in my signature and I will pass it along, or you can email directly to premium at icmregistry dot com. We'd love to hear from you.

I emailed you. I have awesome ideas for tons of names... I just want a fair shake. That would include not telling you what my ideas are.

DamianJ 11-21-2011 01:28 AM

I love how whenever a tricky question is asked, the prbot has to move to email, but the rest of the time is happy to post in public.

God I hope you're not being paid much, you really are bad at this.

DotXXX 11-21-2011 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by beaner (Post 18574916)
I emailed you. I have awesome ideas for tons of names... I just want a fair shake. That would include not telling you what my ideas are.


If you emailed specifically to me, I haven't received it. If you sent to premium, I'll pass along the message. Telling me isn't a requirement. I'd be of little help beyond passing along a message.

AdultKing 11-21-2011 01:33 AM

prbot, what is your position at ICM Registry and are you an officer, employee or contractor to ICM Registry ?

bean-aid 11-21-2011 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DotXXX (Post 18574929)
If you emailed specifically to me, I haven't received it. If you sent to premium, I'll pass along the message. Telling me isn't a requirement. I'd be of little help beyond passing along a message.

It was sent to this address..

premium at icmregistry dot com

btw... do you have any pull in this debate?

bean-aid 11-21-2011 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DotXXX (Post 18574929)
If you emailed specifically to me, I haven't received it. If you sent to premium, I'll pass along the message. Telling me isn't a requirement. I'd be of little help beyond passing along a message.

get off the board then.

who the fuck am i talking to? some fucking peon who was paid 10 dollars an hour to answer on a message board?

Send this message please... FUCK YOU!

AdultKing 11-21-2011 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DotXXX (Post 18574773)
ICMRegistry is investing over 25 million in mainstream advertising alone over the next year, as well as the programs in development that are intended to drive traffic. We want .XXX domain owners to be successful and we're investing a lot to help with that.

Pretty easy to undermine that $25 million for someone prepared to put in some effort.

1. Strategically targeted negative press releases about the "dangers" of .xxx
2. Targeted phone campaign to 'shock jocks' on talkback radio about the dangers of .xxx
3. Telephone surveys garnishing support anti .xxx , reverse marketing.

A mere $25k could undermine $25 million in PR spent by ICM Registry because tabloid press, radio, television will respond to shock horror danger danger stories much more readily than eating up ICM Registry's guff.

Example telephone survey campaign. Make people scared.

"Hello Madam, I am conducting a survey for the "Think of the Children Coalition""

"Would you mind participating to save the children from pornography ?"

"Here are the questions."

"Madam, Do you agree exposing children to pornography is abhorrent ?"
"Yes"
"Madam, Do you think it's the role of society to protect children from pornography ?"
"Yes"

and so on until you get to the clincher by which time you've scared the willies out of middle income suburban mother of 2 and have her calling talkback radio in outrage.

u-Bob 11-21-2011 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DotXXX (Post 18574745)
No. There is an adult performer program, where performer names have been reserved. It prevent cyber-squatting performer names, which is a common occurrence, but performers still need to purchase their domains.

1. How did you build the list with names of adult performers?

2. You've been 'protecting' the names of some adult performers and you've been blocking the names of a-list celebrities for free. Why haven't you been doing the same for schools, universities, mainstream companies,...?

Black All Through 11-21-2011 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18575043)

2. You've been 'protecting' the names of some adult performers and you've been blocking the names of a-list celebrities for free. Why haven't you been doing the same for schools, universities, mainstream companies,...?

Thats a very good question, I would like to hear what ICM have to say about that also. I was discussing this with a lawyer about 2 weeks ago that represents a group of british companies and he was sharing his concern with me about it.

MrCain 11-21-2011 05:21 AM

http://www.about.xxx/Stuart-Lawley-s...nkey-cock.jpeg Is it true that Stuart Lawley tried to bribe the FSC?

DotXXX 11-22-2011 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18574931)
prbot, what is your position at ICM Registry and are you an officer, employee or contractor to ICM Registry ?

I'm an authorized representative.

DotXXX 11-22-2011 11:47 AM

Also, I apologize for not being able to answer some of your questions, but unfortunately anything directly related to allegations currently in litigation is off limits. Angering attorneys is rather like dangling a steak in front of a starving dog and I generally prefer my skin intact.

EukerVoorn 11-22-2011 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions (Post 18570381)
Goddamn...I'm a scrawny little white guy...not sure if I could hit it doggystyle, I'd be afraid I'd get lost in that ass. Wow...

http://highbridnation.com/wordpress/...03/Suzi-Q4.jpg

Is she about to go for a shit? Disgusting... now please post the rest of this series, I'm hungry.

EukerVoorn 11-22-2011 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18572245)
ICM Registry have reserved an array of domains, which they call premium domains. If your trademark / pre-existing domain name happens to match one of these reserved domains you have no way of claiming the equivalent .xxx domain until such time as ICM Registry decide to hold you to ransom for it through an auction process or similar.

These so called premium domains were not made available through Sunrise or Landrush.

Thanks for explaining, and yuck yuck yuck this really stinks. We had some guy posting in here some weeks ago that a similar thing happened to him, but he was able to apply for it in Sunrise and paid, and was then told that the domain was reserved too and he didn't get his money back? Let me search.... yup found it: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1039160


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