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WebCashMaker 11-17-2011 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18565483)
what are the 2 sites?

Yeah... what are the 2 sites ?

So other people can copy them....LOL

u-Bob 11-17-2011 04:44 AM

<--- not surprised.

wehateporn 11-17-2011 05:00 AM

Just rubbernecking


JFK 11-17-2011 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 18565476)
Wow, what a way to kill a business.

seems like it:2 cents:

wehateporn 11-17-2011 05:18 AM

"Pride is an admission of weakness; it secretly fears all competition and dreads all rivals." Fulton J. Sheen

"In general, pride is at the bottom of all great mistakes." John Ruskin (1819-1900) English art critic.

"Pride costs more than hunger, thirst and cold." Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) Third president of the United States.

CaptainHowdy 11-17-2011 05:20 AM

Lil' late sig spot ...

GTS Mark 11-17-2011 06:10 AM

Wow hater week continues LOL!

I guess at this rate I will probably be condemned for the 911 attacks, aliens landing at roswell and where Jimmy Hoffa is buried? In all seriousness these are serious allegations and if any clients or vendors we work with have any concerns about addressing these allegations I'm happy to do so. However i'm not going to hold court here on GFY and turn this into a circus. As you know there are always 2 sides to a story. and this is one...

iMind 11-17-2011 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GTS Mark (Post 18565773)
As you know there are always 2 sides to a story. and this is one...

Both sides do seem pretty clear from the logs posted above.
1) Client asks you to review a site, offer information as to a potential traffic buy
2) You Steal said design, populate it with your own ads and start campaign across it
3) you get caught, don't deny it, however remove the site immediately, to remove proof.


What did I miss?

GTS Mark 11-17-2011 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by iMind (Post 18565790)
Both sides do seem pretty clear from the logs posted above.
1) Client asks you to review a site, offer information as to a potential traffic buy
2) You Steal said design, populate it with your own ads and start campaign across it
3) you get caught, don't deny it, however remove the site immediately, to remove proof.

What did I miss?

Logs can be altered and a huge part of this conversation is bullshit lol! It's always interesting what Information people leave out when it suits them.

stocktrader23 11-17-2011 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GTS Mark (Post 18565800)
Logs can be altered and a huge part of this conversation is bullshit lol! It's always interesting what Information people leave out when it suits them.

Mark, I don't really care if you listen or not but you claim altered logs whenever someone posts them in regards to a dispute with you. Nobody that is reading this conversation will ever buy that the logs were altered because you say so. Of course you could just be playing semantics and mean that he took out a lot of the unnecessary stuff, but that would be equally stupid.

I know the bro club was strong long ago and I also know that happy clients will usually ignore others that are pissed at you but 2011 is a lot different than 1999 - 2008. Saying "LOL they are lying" when multiple respected people accuse you of something is not going to save your reputation at this point. I hope your savings account is filled to the brim. :2 cents:

Fletch XXX 11-17-2011 06:37 AM

things just get craziers and crazier

stocktrader23 11-17-2011 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18565811)
things just get craziers and crazier

GFY time marches on.

ruff 11-17-2011 06:46 AM

Thanks for this thread. Information noted and appreciated.

candyflip 11-17-2011 06:48 AM

Did I get in on the first page?

Dubya 11-17-2011 06:49 AM

you missed out candy flipper.

CyberHustler 11-17-2011 06:49 AM

Happened to me recently too, with a sponsor. Thought we were cool, few weeks later he copied one of my big money making sites thinking all it took was a carbon copy to be me. Found out the hard way you can't be me. I was probably his only converting affiliate and I moved on. :pimp He copied the domain and all that too lol.

stocktrader23 11-17-2011 06:50 AM

You were right about one thing in the other thread though Mark, I am just an "idiot" that never would have used your services anyhow. I've been honing my bullshit detector for decades and I smelled yours from miles away the first time I read about your offerings. I find great pleasure in seeing how this unfolded in the last several years. So much pleasure that I don't even feel the need to say "I told you so" to everyone that kissed your ass in that time frame.

Jarmusch 11-17-2011 06:52 AM

campaigns pulled

NewNick 11-17-2011 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by GTS Mark (Post 18565800)
Logs can be altered and a huge part of this conversation is bullshit lol! It's always interesting what Information people leave out when it suits them.



I once bought some test traffic from GTS.

The response was appalling so I checked a few of the referring sites.

What I found was truly shocking. I complained to GTS who blamed rogue publishers. They squirmed for a couple of weeks, but I eventually got a refund when I threatened to publish my experience on the boards and chargeback the payment on the company card.

I would never do business with them on any level ever again.

candyflip 11-17-2011 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 18565220)
Even 8 years ago I knew this guy had had ethical bypass surgery. I actually warned Stuart (who i think is a good guy) about going to work for him. Well a man's gotta eat, but we know how that turned out for him.

Credit where it's due, Hurson's stepped up his game a bit. It used to be that anyone who called him on his shit was a jealous broke 'hater' (god, i love that term). Now they're delusional on top of that.

He's done the same thing for almost 10 years now. He bullied Nysus out of some sort of deal and when called on it, he and his boys at the time all ganged up on Matt, dragging him and his personal problems through the mud...right here on the board.

He hasn't stepped anything up. He's still the same scumbag he's always been. It's just that now people are finally seeing it.

GTS Mark 11-17-2011 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18565805)
I know the bro club was strong long ago and I also know that happy clients will usually ignore others that are pissed at you but 2011 is a lot different than 1999 - 2008. Saying "LOL they are lying" when multiple respected people accuse you of something is not going to save your reputation at this point. I hope your savings account is filled to the brim. :2 cents:

I'm glad GFY is the barometer of respected people in this industry.

GTS Mark 11-17-2011 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18565842)
He's done the same thing for almost 10 years now. He bullied Nysus out of some sort of deal and when called on it, he and his boys at the time all ganged up on Matt, dragging him and his personal problems through the mud...right here on the board.

He hasn't stepped anything up. He's still the same scumbag he's always been. It's just that now people are finally seeing it.

Who are you again and why do I care? All i know about you is that you post about a million times a day on GFY and about 99% of it is just negative and defamatory. Obviously a pillar of the community

GTS Mark 11-17-2011 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 18565841)
I once bought some test traffic from GTS.

The response was appalling so I checked a few of the referring sites.

What I found was truly shocking. I complained to GTS who blamed rogue publishers. They squirmed for a couple of weeks, but I eventually got a refund when I threatened to publish my experience on the boards and chargeback the payment on the company card.

I would never do business with them on any level ever again.

Hmmmm this is news to me, can you please post some proof?

GTS Mark 11-17-2011 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18565831)
You were right about one thing in the other thread though Mark, I am just an "idiot" that never would have used your services anyhow. I've been honing my bullshit detector for decades and I smelled yours from miles away the first time I read about your offerings. I find great pleasure in seeing how this unfolded in the last several years. So much pleasure that I don't even feel the need to say "I told you so" to everyone that kissed your ass in that time frame.

Stocktrader23, I'm very glad you never dealt with us. You don't sound like a nice person to do business with anyways.:)

theking 11-17-2011 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GTS Mark (Post 18565848)
Who are you again and why do I care? All i know about you is that you post about a million times a day on GFY and about 99% of it is just negative and defamatory. Obviously a pillar of the community

He also is a self confessed thief.

GTS Mark 11-17-2011 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by machinegunkelly (Post 18565458)
Yeah dude,

Back in order for sure, I work with a great mainstream company who appreciates my designs, pays me well, and has never tried to pull a fast one on me.

Translation: "I could'nt make enough money in adult doing consulting designs to stay in the business, so i moved over to find a 9-5 job"

Kelly I think you still owe me like $3,000 for trashing the apartment my company leased for you because your credit was so bad. I'd be happy to post some pictures of the damage my handyman took after you left town during a midnight move out LOL!.

stocktrader23 11-17-2011 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 18565841)
I once bought some test traffic from GTS.

The response was appalling so I checked a few of the referring sites.

What I found was truly shocking. I complained to GTS who blamed rogue publishers. They squirmed for a couple of weeks, but I eventually got a refund when I threatened to publish my experience on the boards and chargeback the payment on the company card.

I would never do business with them on any level ever again.

As with pyramid schemes, as long as incoming outpaces outgoing things don't fall apart like you see here and in other threads.

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Originally Posted by GTS Mark (Post 18565856)
Stocktrader23, I'm very glad you never dealt with us.

Not as glad as I am. Anyhow, I am but an outsider looking in at this train wreck. If you apologized, quit saying everyone is lying and actively worked at doing things better you'd eventually fall out of my "avoid at all costs" category and move to my "with extreme caution only" category.

stocktrader23 11-17-2011 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GTS Mark (Post 18565876)
Translation: "I could'nt make enough money in adult doing consulting designs to stay in the business, so i moved over to find a 9-5 job"

Kelly I think you still owe me like $3,000 for trashing the apartment my company leased for you because your credit was so bad. I'd be happy to post some pictures of the damage my handyman took after you left town during a midnight move out LOL!.

MGK has always been pretty open about his history, more mudslinging isn't going to help you out either.

As for your apartment, I'm surprised he didn't burn that motherfucker down given the situation. :thumbsup

GTS Mark 11-17-2011 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18565877)
Pyramid scheme, as long as incoming outpaces outgoing things don't fall apart like you see here and in other threads.

Yes it's obvious it's all a pyramid scheme, i am the fucking bernie madoff of the adult industry. Give me a break you jackass :1orglaugh

GTS Mark 11-17-2011 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18565884)
MGK has always been pretty open about his history, more mudslinging isn't going to help you out either.

As for your apartment, I'm surprised he didn't burn that motherfucker down given the situation. :thumbsup

LOL! Open?? You have the tip of the iceberg when it comes to that guy...

Actually it wasn't my apartment, it was the town's apartment which he tried to rent but he had no references that would be taken. So our company stepped up and cosigned for it and were promptly stuck with the bill when he midnight moved out and trashed it. Maybe MGK would like to dispute that but i can pull pictures and financial data as proof.

HardlinkSells 11-17-2011 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTS Mark (Post 18565876)
Translation: "I could'nt make enough money in adult doing consulting designs to stay in the business, so i moved over to find a 9-5 job"

Kelly I think you still owe me like $3,000 for trashing the apartment my company leased for you because your credit was so bad. I'd be happy to post some pictures of the damage my handyman took after you left town during a midnight move out LOL!.

Last time I checked you still owe money and your traffic cost 6 dollars a click. You are too much of a pussy to step in the other thread, but you try to defend yourself with childish responses. It is best to shut up anyways.

If the chat log is altered, post your version. You are nothing but a scammer.


Show is you are reputable. Did mommy never teach you how to apologize? Need a bottle? A gay man hug or high five?

Campaign pulled you piece of shit.

stocktrader23 11-17-2011 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GTS Mark (Post 18565886)
Yes it's obvious it's all a pyramid scheme, i am the fucking bernie madoff of the adult industry. Give me a break you jackass :1orglaugh

Edited, I left out a couple of words.

Man, you have to know that this isn't healthy. How I perceive you is how everyone else perceives you. Let's assume that you were right in every situation as you claim, why cause harm to your own business by acting a damn fool while defending yourself? I mean I know you could do this long ago and still have enough buddy buddy shit going to make a living but your income has got to be slipping at this point. Do you really want to flex your ego until you can't eat?

Whatever, as mentioned I don't really care so by all means carry on. I just find this stuff extremely interesting, like that movie with the shit centipede.

stocktrader23 11-17-2011 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GTS Mark (Post 18565890)
LOL! Open?? You have the tip of the iceberg when it comes to that guy...

Actually it wasn't my apartment, it was the town's apartment which he tried to rent but he had no references that would be taken. So our company stepped up and cosigned for it and were promptly stuck with the bill when he midnight moved out and trashed it. Maybe MGK would like to dispute that but i can pull pictures and financial data as proof.

Tsk tsk tsk.

Fletch XXX 11-17-2011 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18565902)
like that movie with the shit centipede.

got the DVD :thumbsup

GTS Mark 11-17-2011 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by HardlinkSells (Post 18565896)
You are too much of a pussy to step in the other thread, but you try to defend yourself with childish responses. It is best to shut up anyways.

Campaign pulled you piece of shit.

LOL which campaign are you, what customer id are you? I'm sure you're a major client of ours considering i have no idea who you are? $6 a click that is news to me LOL!

I don't owe Dom a cent, he never delivered on his services. In the real world of business when someone doesn't finish a product or service they don't get paid simple as that. If he had an issue he should have brought it to my attention 3 years ago when the whole thing went down. I chatted with him about the situation and gave him his options if he wished to take it further. He decided to wage a defamation battle with me on gfy... I guess that's what professional contractors like him do...

GTS Mark 11-17-2011 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18565902)
Edited, I left out a couple of words.

Man, you have to know that this isn't healthy. How I perceive you is how everyone else perceives you. Let's assume that you were right in every situation as you claim, why cause harm to your own business by acting a damn fool while defending yourself? I mean I know you could do this long ago and still have enough buddy buddy shit going to make a living but your income has got to be slipping at this point. Do you really want to flex your ego until you can't eat?

Whatever, as mentioned I don't really care so by all means carry on. I just find this stuff extremely interesting, like that movie with the shit centipede.

LOL i am doing just fine thanks Stocktrader for your concern.

Dubya 11-17-2011 07:28 AM

This thread is brewing nicely. It looks like Mark is going down quickly and will be out of business by the end of the day.

GTS Mark 11-17-2011 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dubya (Post 18565926)
This thread is brewing nicely. It looks like Mark is going down quickly and will be out of business by the end of the day.

LOL i guess i better drive into the office and start the layoffs now. Sorry everyone there were some false allegations posted about our company on GFY. I'm going to have to let you all go.. sorry... :1orglaugh

TheSquealer 11-17-2011 07:37 AM

People are so interesting... We always look to others to behave and conduct themselves in ways that make sense to us. For example, we expect others to conduct themselves in their interactions with us, with a sense of morality, of integrity, ethics and honesty, or to simply act in a way that makes sense to us or that is expected.

When we stumble across broken people,... as people, we often just can't accept they are broken. We continue to expect them to exhibit traits of a person that is not broken and to behave in ways that we expect or anticipate. With the confusion they create, we continue to try to reason through things with that person, explain, argue, make points, defend those points etc never understanding or accepting that the other party, has a skewed sense of right or wrong and will never see past "they are attacking me"... because that's is his genuine perception.

No amount of reasonable discussion is going to make a broken person respond or react as a normal person would. You shouldn't expect them feel or exhibit emotions you would expect them too such as remorse or guilt, when its clear that person has either a diminished capacity or no capacity for those emotions and no ability to understand why others are genuinely angry or upset or feel wronged by their actions. Broken people are broken.

The appropriate thing to do is to simply acknowledge who and what they are, make a note and move on.

The best thing about crazy people, is that they often outwardly appear to be the least crazy... but they always leave clues, we just tend to willfully ignore them.

:2 cents:

candyflip 11-17-2011 07:41 AM

Mark, you are done here. Pack it up and go home. We all know that nothing you claim is the actual truth.

Plenty of us have known of your true colors for years. It's just now obvious to EVERYONE.

You and your wife are two of the biggest scumbags this board has ever seen.


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