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Gouge 11-17-2011 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 18567233)
why did the original (can i stress that enough? lol) boston tea party dump tea into the harbor w/o a focused bullet point message?

They did have a message it was "No taxation without representation" i take it you didn't learn much in school if you don't know that elementary fact.

Gouge 11-17-2011 03:41 PM

Good news, fat fuck communist Michel Moore is at Foley park...your leader has arrived.

FlexxAeon 11-17-2011 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 18567259)
They did have a message it was "No taxation without representation" i take it you didn't learn much in school if you don't know that elementary fact.

save that shit for a softer target

BFT3K 11-17-2011 03:55 PM

This doesn't help the OWS movement in any way, and this is considered a liberal show...

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/we...street-divided

stocktrader23 11-17-2011 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18567024)
That's pretty much the way I feel too.

The fucking protesters have this backwards. They are fighting the local police officers, making them look bad... Well, the local police officers are in fact the 99%. They shut down the shipyard in Oakland - Union members, more of the 99%, great job. Today they shut down some of the subway system in NYC - Which is used mostly by low income people... Fucking brilliant!

Take this shit directly to the heart of the matter, to the only people that can make change: Washington DC.

This again? The shipyard union members supported the general strike as well, they just weren't allowed to join it contractually.

Failed 11-17-2011 04:18 PM

It's amazing how many of the employed are walking with these protesters. The live feed has Verizon workers holding signs saying they are the 99%. News orgs are estimating 20-30k people.

porno jew 11-17-2011 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18566974)

guess they were police agitators.

http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallst...gate_violence/

TheSquealer 11-17-2011 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18567245)
I'm not going to play that game. If the OWS people walk around with signs that say "Google It" then they should just stay home.

I don't like the way our government is being run right now, and if the OWS movement has any chance of making a change, it needs SPECIFIC goals!

Stuff like...

Vote for (blank).

Let's get together to repeal (blank).

Everybody needs to call and/or email (blank), regarding (blank).

Shy of that, they look like idiots, and I'M A FAN, so imagine what the haters see?

Oh shit.

We completely agree on something political.

:helpme:helpme:helpme

Rochard 11-17-2011 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18567320)
This again? The shipyard union members supported the general strike as well, they just weren't allowed to join it contractually.

The unions should support this type of a movement. They are in fact the 99%. But how does preventing them from doing their jobs and earning a paycheck help?

Today multiple restaurants and coffee shops on Wall Street shut down, locked their doors, and send their employees home. Brilliant. In the middle of a financial crisis, let's shut down small businesses and cause employees to loose a day's worth of work.

It's just counter productive to their message.

Failed 11-17-2011 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18567400)
The unions should support this type of a movement. They are in fact the 99%. But how does preventing them from doing their jobs and earning a paycheck help?

Today multiple restaurants and coffee shops on Wall Street shut down, locked their doors, and send their employees home. Brilliant. In the middle of a financial crisis, let's shut down small businesses and cause employees to loose a day's worth of work.

It's just counter productive to their message.

Those people, those unions, chose not to work and walk with the 99% in protest. So, they didn't cause employees to lose a day of work, the employees and unions chose to protest. How is freedom of choice counter productive to anything?

Failed 11-17-2011 04:58 PM

They are actually interviewing a group of doctors on the live feed right now, if you choose to enlighten yourselves.

BFT3K 11-17-2011 05:57 PM

http://www.thebuzzmedia.com/wp-conte...ire_monkey.jpg

Socks 11-17-2011 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18567066)
I couldn't read past here. I was laughing to hard.

...you were laughing to erection?

porno jew 11-17-2011 06:26 PM

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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 11-17-2011 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18567136)
of course the tea party had a clear message. it was wholly created astro-turf fake populist movement. it was created by astro-turf organisations, marketers and the right wing media.

this is an organic movement but it is growing. who knows where it will end up. i think it's fluidity is part of it's strength. it definitely isn't slowing down.

:thumbsup +1

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Y4Me5ieLWk...v17+image3.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qBprocUNX1.../OWS+Nov17.jpg

http://www.therightplanet.com/wp-con...17-dot-org.png

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lu...8nkqo1_500.jpg

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Rochard 11-17-2011 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18567441)
Those people, those unions, chose not to work and walk with the 99% in protest. So, they didn't cause employees to lose a day of work, the employees and unions chose to protest. How is freedom of choice counter productive to anything?

OWS claims to represent the 99%. This is completely misleading. If the 99% in NYC was in fact to protest, it would be over eight million people. The truth is the OWS is a very small tiny majority, half of which are college kids, while a large percentage of the American population "supports the over all message". In reality, if OWS never existed, a large percentage of the population would still support the basic message.

Shutting down traffic in NYC is only going to piss off a lot of people.

Failed 11-17-2011 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18567750)
OWS claims to represent the 99%. This is completely misleading. If the 99% in NYC was in fact to protest, it would be over eight million people. The truth is the OWS is a very small tiny majority, half of which are college kids, while a large percentage of the American population "supports the over all message". In reality, if OWS never existed, a large percentage of the population would still support the basic message.

Shutting down traffic in NYC is only going to piss off a lot of people.

The only traffic shutdowns I saw were by the NYPD, and oddly timed ones at that. They could of handled it better. But, while watching the live feed, as the protesters were marching by the traffic that was stopped, they were all blowing their horns, chanting with the protesters, and giving peace signs. I'm sure they weren't all happy, but it seemed like the majority didn't mind.

Anyway, did they piss some people off, sure. But, over 30,000 came out on a work night to support and march. It's a good start to a new beginning. Sacrifices must be made for progress of any kind.

12clicks 11-17-2011 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18567320)
This again? The shipyard union members supported the general strike as well, they just weren't allowed to join it contractually.

Link??????

porno jew 11-17-2011 08:24 PM

http://gcaptain.com/occupy-protestors-shut-port?33493

Failed 11-17-2011 08:29 PM



This is very cool!

Shotsie 11-17-2011 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18567776)
Link??????

From the I.L.A(International Longshoreman's Association) website:

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The ILA and ACD pledge to fight on behalf of Occupy Wall Street to protect their rights of free speech and to assemble.

ACD President Dennis Daggett said his union is grateful that the voice of America's frustrated middle class is being heard through Occupy Wall Street drawing to an inequitable economic system tilted in favor of this country's top 1% of wage earners.

International President Harold Daggett echoed his praise of Occupy Wall Street and their cause.

"Washington bailed out the banks and Wall Street, but our current Congress balks at passing a jobs bill and is totally out of touch with Blue-collared America," said the ILA leader. "In places like Wisconsin and Ohio, those State's lawmakers are stripping police, firemen, teachers and janitors of their benefits and pensions. Like AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka said last week: 'Occupy Wall Street has captured the imagination and passion of millions of Americans who have lost hope that our nation's policymakers are not speaking for them'."

Both ILA leaders said a number of ILA members have reported to them that they have joined the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations at various protests around the country.

"We are proud to stand and walk with those who fight for good jobs," said both the ILA and ACD leaders.
http://www.ilaunion.org/news_occupy_wall_street.html

Rochard 11-17-2011 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18567773)
The only traffic shutdowns I saw were by the NYPD, and oddly timed ones at that. They could of handled it better. But, while watching the live feed, as the protesters were marching by the traffic that was stopped, they were all blowing their horns, chanting with the protesters, and giving peace signs. I'm sure they weren't all happy, but it seemed like the majority didn't mind.

Anyway, did they piss some people off, sure. But, over 30,000 came out on a work night to support and march. It's a good start to a new beginning. Sacrifices must be made for progress of any kind.

It wasn't "thirty thousand". It was "thousands", not "tens of thousands". (Estimate from the AP)

I saw entire streets shut down. This is to be expected for a protest of this size.

Just now at CNN Anderson Cooper was interviewing someone discussing this protest and comparing it to other protests. This guy said "protests must always lead to political action". In the Civil Rights movement, early on, they targeted specific easy to understand rules. In this case, the laws they should be discussing are too complicated for most college kids to understand. But they need to target Washington, not Wall Street. Wall Street isn't gong to change a damn thing on their own.

Gouge 11-17-2011 09:22 PM

No wonder the progressives endorse this movement.

Just like the Tea Party right?

http://thegatewaypundit.com/wp-conte...11/ows-n17.jpg

Revolutionary Organization 17 November From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia For the airport with the FAA code 17N, see Cross Keys Airport. 17 November

A reproduction of ?17 November? logo that appeared on their proclamations Dates of operation 1975-2002 Leader Alexandros Giotopoulos, Dimitris Koufodinas Motives anti-imperialist, anti-capitalist, pro-Marxism Active region(s) Greece Ideology Marxist Status dormant Revolutionary Organization 17 November (Greek: Επαναστατική Οργάνωση 17 Νοέμβρη, Epanastatiki Organosi dekaefta Noemvri), (also known as 17N or N17) was a Marxist urban guerrilla organization (characterized as a terrorist group by the Greek state[1] and the United States[2] and the United Kingdom) formed in 1975 and believed to have been disbanded in 2002 after the arrest and trial of a number of its members. The group assassinated 23 people[3] in 103 attacks on U.S., British, Turkish and Greek targets.

http://thegatewaypundit.com/wp-conte...011/11/n17.jpg

Failed 11-17-2011 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18567850)
It wasn't "thirty thousand". It was "thousands", not "tens of thousands". (Estimate from the AP)

I saw entire streets shut down. This is to be expected for a protest of this size.

Just now at CNN Anderson Cooper was interviewing someone discussing this protest and comparing it to other protests. This guy said "protests must always lead to political action". In the Civil Rights movement, early on, they targeted specific easy to understand rules. In this case, the laws they should be discussing are too complicated for most college kids to understand. But they need to target Washington, not Wall Street. Wall Street isn't gong to change a damn thing on their own.

Police were talking to each other over scanners estimating the numbers at 30k plus. But, I don't have proof.

Washington is being targeted, as well. I don't believe they need to do anything but continue to protest, gather numbers, support, and strength. Eventually, Washington will have to pay attention, even if the protest isn't at the gates of the White House. That's just my opinion.

Gouge 11-17-2011 09:27 PM

The Obama-endorsed Occupy Wall Street goons terrorized small children going to school.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/video?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId= 6465910

Just like the Tea Party...Yeah!

Shotsie 11-17-2011 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 18567886)
The Obama-endorsed Occupy Wall Street goons terrorized small children going to school.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/video?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId= 6465910

Just like the Tea Party...Yeah!

Plenty of white nationalist neo-nazi groups attached themselves to the tea party. What's your point? That fringe groups latch on to large movements that they feel might give them a platform to further their agenda? No shit......

Gouge 11-17-2011 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Shotsie (Post 18567895)
Plenty of white nationalist neo-nazi groups attached themselves to the tea party. What's your point? That fringe groups latch on to large movements that they feel might give them a platform to further their agenda? No shit......

What do white nationalist neo-nazi groups have to do with the Occupy thugs going after kids?

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/11/...n-wall-street/

Failed 11-17-2011 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 18567886)
The Obama-endorsed Occupy Wall Street goons terrorized small children going to school.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/video?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId= 6465910

Just like the Tea Party...Yeah!

They shouldn't have been on the streets, they should of expected this. Isn't that what you all keep saying about the old ladies and pregnant women? I don't actually believe that of course, but it's amusing to see how you guys adopt beliefs to fit specific news stories.

Gouge 11-17-2011 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18567906)
They shouldn't have been on the streets, they should of expected this. Isn't that what you all keep saying about the old ladies and pregnant women? I don't actually believe that of course, but it's amusing to see how you guys adopt beliefs to fit specific news stories.

Kids should not be allowed to cross the street accompanied by there parents as they walk to school...is that what your saying?

Who is "you all and you guys" you give reference to?

You lost me on the old ladies and pregnant women bit, to date ive never mentioned either of them any where and you cant quote me as doing so either.

Rochard 11-17-2011 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18567882)
Police were talking to each other over scanners estimating the numbers at 30k plus. But, I don't have proof.

So I should believe someone who just signed up to GFY, with less than a 1k posts, and no siggie, over the AP? Sure thing.

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Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18567882)
Washington is being targeted, as well. I don't believe they need to do anything but continue to protest, gather numbers, support, and strength. Eventually, Washington will have to pay attention, even if the protest isn't at the gates of the White House. That's just my opinion.

Jesus fucking Christ, get a map. They shut down Wall Street in NYC not the Capital building. The banks aren't going to make a change..... It's going to be up to Washington.

Shotsie 11-17-2011 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 18567905)
What do white nationalist neo-nazi groups have to do with the Occupy thugs going after kids?

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/11/...n-wall-street/

I was really replying to your first post where you were implying that the entire movement was run by a marxist terrorist group, and that was the reason that progressives endorsed it. I just didn't want to quote all that.

Failed 11-17-2011 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18567924)
So I should believe someone who just signed up to GFY, with less than a 1k posts, and no siggie, over the AP? Sure thing.

Jesus fucking Christ, get a map. They shut down Wall Street in NYC not the Capital building. The banks aren't going to make a change..... It's going to be up to Washington.

A tip of my hat to you, sir. I wasn't sure if you were smart enough to figure out that join date, post count, and a signature directly correlate with intelligence and trust, but you have!

I will go buy a map and figure out where Wall Street is in relation to Washington D.C. so that I'm able to see that a demonstration anywhere but in the Capital building is just a waste of time and will not accomplish anything.

Listen, thanks for taking time out of your night to explain these things to me. I'm better off and promise to be a better person going forward because of your generosity!

Failed 11-17-2011 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 18567914)
Kids should not be allowed to cross the street accompanied by there parents as they walk to school...is that what your saying?

Who is "you all and you guys" you give reference to?

You lost me on the old ladies and pregnant women bit, to date ive never mentioned either of them any where and you cant quote me as doing so either.

Sorry about that, I was under the impression we were all making generalizations about groups of people. I just lumped you in with some other forum members. But, you're right, that was wrong of me to do so. And, I'm sure because you pointed out this obvious failure I made, you would never do such a thing either.

Gouge 11-17-2011 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Shotsie (Post 18567927)
I was really replying to your first post where you were implying that the entire movement was run by a marxist terrorist group, and that was the reason that progressives endorsed it. I just didn't want to quote all that.

I didn't imply the movement was being run by Marxist terrorist group, however they did pick November 17th as the date to commemorate and to pay homage to 17N. It clearly says so on the Occupy site and if not they would have went with another date to separate themselves from it and the message of anti-imperialist, anti-capitalist, pro-Marxism.

They picked that date for a reason, to send the same message as what 17N's did.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolut...on_17_November

You're going to tell me its just a coincidence now right?

porno jew 11-17-2011 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 18567942)
I didn't imply the movement was being run by Marxist terrorist group, however they did pick November 17th as the date to commemorate and to pay homage to 17N. It clearly says so on the Occupy site and if not they would have went with another date to separate themselves from it and the message of anti-imperialist, anti-capitalist, pro-Marxism.

They picked that date for a reason, to send the same message as what 17N's did.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolut...on_17_November

You're going to tell me its just a coincidence now right?

of course no proof that is why they choose it, just your delusions and paranoia seeing connections where there is none.

Gouge 11-17-2011 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18567956)
of course no proof that is why they choose it, just your delusions and paranoia seeing connections where there is none.

Uh, its posted on the official Occupy website message forums and on there Twitter, no delusions and paranoia needed, they clearly said why they chose that day. Kinda sad i know more about a movement you support than you do :1orglaugh

porno jew 11-17-2011 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 18567980)
Uh, its posted on the official Occupy website message forums and on there Twitter, no delusions and paranoia needed, they clearly said why they chose that day. Kinda sad i know more about a movement you support than you do :1orglaugh

link? couldn't find anything anywhere. i assume you are lying.

Gouge 11-17-2011 10:39 PM

Just like the Tea Party right?

Dozens of hypodermic needles were found at the Obama-endorsed tramp camp.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-c...11/needles.jpg

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/11/...zuccotti-park/

Gouge 11-17-2011 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18567982)
link? couldn't find anything anywhere. i assume you are lying.

I do my own homework, so should you.

cykoe6 11-17-2011 10:45 PM

How is it possible that anyone would even bother to deny that the OWS movement is a Marxist anti-captalist movement??? They loudly proclaim it all the time. Anyone who is even passingly familiar with their rhetoric knows this. I assume amoral hypocrites like Porno Jew deny this because they feel it will make the movement unpopular....... but why not let the ideas stand on their own instead of trying to deny them? If the public is really ready for revolution then they will embrace it.


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