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Shotsie 11-17-2011 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 18567990)
Just like the Tea Party right?

Dozens of hypodermic needles were found at the Obama-endorsed tramp camp.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-c...11/needles.jpg

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/11/...zuccotti-park/

Hypodermic needles in a public park in New York City? I don't believe it.........:Oh crap

porno jew 11-17-2011 10:47 PM

oh you got your stupid conspiracy from glenn beck.

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/blo...h-new-protest/

not surprised.

Failed 11-17-2011 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Shotsie (Post 18568005)
Hypodermic needles in a public park in New York City? I don't believe it.........:Oh crap

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Those OWS thugs, they brought drugs into NYC! Next thing you know there will be crime too.

Gouge 11-17-2011 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18568006)
oh you got your stupid conspiracy from glenn beck.

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/blo...h-new-protest/

not surprised.

Actually, you just did...im not a Glenn Beck fan, sorry.

Gouge 11-17-2011 11:21 PM

Even supporters of the OWS know they fucked themselves with this 17N shit and communist propaganda style posters.

http://occupywallst.org/article/post...nd-post-freel/

[-]epa1nter (Rutherford, NJ) 7 points 3 days ago

Agreed. The look of the poster is a direct appropriation of propaganda posters in Russia around 1917. (Go to the Museum of Modern Art to see examples, or Google "russian propaganda posters".) I don't think that taking the graphic style associated with Socialist revolution and Stalin is going to win over many supporters in this country.

I am a big supporter of OWS, (and I think the poster is beautiful, too) but I think this is inappropriate and self-defeating.


[-]itsybitsycheater (Center Valley, PA) 1 points 8 hours ago

N17 isn't non-violent. They rely on useful idiots who are ignorant of history to follow them like the pied piper. "The organization?s first known attack came in December 1975, when the CIA?s Athens station chief was shot with a .45-caliber pistol, November 17?s favorite weapon. Since then, the group has claimed responsibility for twenty-one murders, including the killings of a U.S. Navy captain, a U.S. defense attaché, a Turkish diplomat, and a British defense attaché. November 17?s initial attacks were directed at senior U.S. officials and Greek public figures, but during the 1980s the group expanded its operations to include bombings of ordinary citizens and property." Does that answer your question? Anyone who associates with this group is another useful idiot for the NWO.

[-]Bambi (Buffalo, NY) 0 points 3 days ago

NON violent yet you have army tanks on the poster? Isn't that hypercritical?

Taking down Wall Street, take the square, occupy the subways? All you are suggesting is that you want to hurt the 99% that work in offices and buildings on Wall Street, businesses surrounding the square and jamming up the subways so bad that the 99% can't get to work.

This is not a peaceful productive poster. It shows anger towards the every day worker who is out there to work to pay bills and have food on their table.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 11-17-2011 11:24 PM









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We Pledge Resistance

"We pledge alliance with those who have come under attack
for voicing opposition to the war, or for their religion or ethnicity.

We pledge to make common cause with the people of the world,
to bring about justice, freedom, and peace.

Another world is possible,

and we pledge to make it real.
?
ADG

BFT3K 11-17-2011 11:24 PM

A common site, after a typical Tea Party gathering...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MaqMUPxnA8...bertson_07.jpg

porno jew 11-17-2011 11:25 PM

if you think that is proof that the date was picked because of the greek terror cell you are delusional or lying or stupid. most likely all three.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 18568037)
Even supporters of the OWS know they fucked themselves with this 17N shit and communist propaganda style posters.

http://occupywallst.org/article/post...nd-post-freel/

[-]epa1nter (Rutherford, NJ) 7 points 3 days ago

Agreed. The look of the poster is a direct appropriation of propaganda posters in Russia around 1917. (Go to the Museum of Modern Art to see examples, or Google "russian propaganda posters".) I don't think that taking the graphic style associated with Socialist revolution and Stalin is going to win over many supporters in this country.

I am a big supporter of OWS, (and I think the poster is beautiful, too) but I think this is inappropriate and self-defeating.


[-]itsybitsycheater (Center Valley, PA) 1 points 8 hours ago

N17 isn't non-violent. They rely on useful idiots who are ignorant of history to follow them like the pied piper. "The organization’s first known attack came in December 1975, when the CIA’s Athens station chief was shot with a .45-caliber pistol, November 17’s favorite weapon. Since then, the group has claimed responsibility for twenty-one murders, including the killings of a U.S. Navy captain, a U.S. defense attaché, a Turkish diplomat, and a British defense attaché. November 17’s initial attacks were directed at senior U.S. officials and Greek public figures, but during the 1980s the group expanded its operations to include bombings of ordinary citizens and property." Does that answer your question? Anyone who associates with this group is another useful idiot for the NWO.

[-]Bambi (Buffalo, NY) 0 points 3 days ago

NON violent yet you have army tanks on the poster? Isn't that hypercritical?

Taking down Wall Street, take the square, occupy the subways? All you are suggesting is that you want to hurt the 99% that work in offices and buildings on Wall Street, businesses surrounding the square and jamming up the subways so bad that the 99% can't get to work.

This is not a peaceful productive poster. It shows anger towards the every day worker who is out there to work to pay bills and have food on their table.


porno jew 11-17-2011 11:26 PM

the date was picked because it was the 2 month anniversary of the movement. if you were familiar with reality not deranged right wing news sites you would have discovered that.

Gouge 11-17-2011 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18568043)
the date was picked because it was the 2 month anniversary of the movement. if you were familiar with reality not deranged right wing news sites you would have discovered that.

CBS, NBC and ABC are now considered right wing news sites?

Resorting to personal insults shows you have no ammunition for the argument...a common tactic among those who are loosing battles.

BFT3K 11-17-2011 11:46 PM

Hello, is there someone I can speak with regarding your litter box supplies?



https://youtube.com/watch?v=7YQ1PhOnM3I

cykoe6 11-17-2011 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18568051)
Hello, is there someone I can speak with regarding your litter box supplies?



https://youtube.com/watch?v=7YQ1PhOnM3I


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 11-17-2011 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 18568037)

NON violent yet you have army tanks on the poster? Isn't that hypercritical?

This is not a peaceful productive poster. It shows anger towards the every day worker who is out there to work to pay bills and have food on their table.

You have a serious comprehension problem...no wonder you can't understand the OWS protest movement (not that you appear to have made much of an effort).

The tanks represent the 1%, the people heading towards the tanks are the 99%.

Did you really not get that? :1orglaugh

Look at the poster again...(Hint: Now think Tiananmen Square - get it?)

If the banks and corporate America that make up the 1% truly cared so much about the "everyday worker who is out there to work to pay bills and have food on their table", there would not be a growing movement for change.

Watch to the end... :winkwink:



For those that are not slaves to the 1%:



Peace and Love,

ADG

Failed 11-18-2011 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 18568055)
You have a serious comprehension problem...no wonder you can't understand the OWS protest movement (not that you appear to have made much of an effort).

The tanks represent the 1%, the people heading towards the tanks are the 99%.

Did you really not get that? :1orglaugh

Look at the poster again...(Hint: Now think Tiananmen Square - get it?)

If the banks and corporate America that make up the 1% truly cared so much about the "everyday worker who is out there to work to pay bills and have food on their table", there would not be a growing movement for change.

Watch to the end... :winkwink:



For those that are not slaves to the 1%:



Peace and Love,

ADG

Damn it, 2am and now I have more of an urge to watch Scarface than I do go to bed :1orglaugh

DaddyHalbucks 11-18-2011 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18566987)
OWS needs to clarify its goals, demands, and positions - SPECIFICALLY, or it will be vilified and destroyed. This was my position at the beginning, and it is only strengthened as time passes.

I'm as anti-establishment as it gets, and even I'M embarrassed by the weakness of the occupiers. Get on the same page, and rally SPECIFIC populist demands.

I'm generally unhappy so I am holding a vague sign and creating inconveniences, is not going to be a winning strategy. Sorry.

The OWS signs to "Tear down capitalism" were pretty specific.

But, I wonder if they were referring to Obama crony capitalism, or Milton Friedman free market capitalism. Is that your dilemma?

porno jew 11-18-2011 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 18568049)
CBS, NBC and ABC are now considered right wing news sites?

Resorting to personal insults shows you have no ammunition for the argument...a common tactic among those who are loosing battles.

you said the greek terror cell was the reason they picked nov 17th. you wont provide a link backing that claim. you said google it. i did. there is no proof of your claims. you are just lying or delusional. pretty obvious here.

BFT3K 11-18-2011 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 18568096)
The OWS signs to "Tear down capitalism" were pretty specific.

But, I wonder if they were referring to Obama crony capitalism, or Milton Friedman free market capitalism. Is that your dilemma?

Just keep watching FOX. As long as you're busy soaking in your tub of misinformation, the rest of the world will evolve around you.

12clicks 11-18-2011 09:17 AM

the occupy philly group marched to a bridge they decided needed to be fixed, sat down, and blocked traffic.
The police arrested all 24 of them.

the movement is growing :1orglaugh

nation-x 11-18-2011 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18567172)
I wonder what all that "astro-turf" money was actually used for

He is talking about the Fox News version of the tea party... not the groups that don't organize with the co-opters like AFP, FreedomWorks, Tea Party Patriots and the Tea Party Express.

nation-x 11-18-2011 09:39 AM

Educate yourself

http://alecexposed.org/wiki/ALEC_Exposed

12clicks 11-18-2011 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 18568869)

why does the fringe imagine we need "educating" by other fringe wackos?

Anthony 11-18-2011 09:43 AM

http://i.imgur.com/opS3C.jpg

Caption that pic.

nation-x 11-18-2011 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18568877)
why does the fringe imagine we need "educating" by other fringe wackos?

I am not the fringe, first of all. Secondly, as much nonsense as you continually spout (nonsense because 90% of it is easily dis-proven), I would say you could certainly benefit from doing some research.

Rochard 11-18-2011 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18567938)
A tip of my hat to you, sir. I wasn't sure if you were smart enough to figure out that join date, post count, and a signature directly correlate with intelligence and trust, but you have!

I will go buy a map and figure out where Wall Street is in relation to Washington D.C. so that I'm able to see that a demonstration anywhere but in the Capital building is just a waste of time and will not accomplish anything.

Listen, thanks for taking time out of your night to explain these things to me. I'm better off and promise to be a better person going forward because of your generosity!

On this board, your join date is everything.

You say that protesting the Capital building won't change a thing, but this is in fact where the laws are made. The banks are making money; They don't want to change a thing. The change will have to come from Washington DC. All protest movements land in Washington in the end - that is the only place that can make change.

But it's kind of pointless. They have no message, no demands. With the war protests it was simple: "get out of Vietnam". With the civil rights movement it was also simple: "We want equal rights for everyone". OWS wants... What? For the banks to stop making money?

A lot of effort is being put out, but it's not directed any where at any thing. It's just a group of people saying "I'm unhappy".

nation-x 11-18-2011 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 18568880)

Pepper spraying girls in the face at point blank range... it separates the police from the violent protesters.

12clicks 11-18-2011 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 18568880)

a little pepper with your wine, madam?

Gouge 11-18-2011 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18568103)
you said the greek terror cell was the reason they picked nov 17th. you wont provide a link backing that claim. you said google it. i did. there is no proof of your claims. you are just lying or delusional. pretty obvious here.

Nope, i said they picked that day to pay homage to 17N, they clearly talk about it in the link i posted that goes to the message forums. Some of the first comments about the poster and the day go back 4-5 days before anyone really picked up on it. And posted 3 random comments out of the hundreds that show OWS supporters aren't so keen on the idea.

I love how you're so defense about something you don't even understand :1orglaugh

12clicks 11-18-2011 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 18568883)
I am not the fringe, first of all.

son, if you're getting your "education" from that fringe website, you ARE what you, uh..............learn?
:1orglaugh

nation-x 11-18-2011 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18568899)
son, if you're getting your "education" from that fringe website, you ARE what you, uh..............learn?
:1orglaugh

Laugh all you want... the earth isn't flat... no matter how much you want it to be.


12clicks 11-18-2011 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 18568912)
Laugh all you want... the earth isn't flat... no matter how much you want it to be.


you see, thats just it, son.
YOU think the earth is flat.
the intelligent aren't the ones protesting, they're the ones out making money.

nation-x 11-18-2011 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18568923)
you see, thats just it, son.
YOU think the earth is flat.
the intelligent aren't the ones protesting, they're the ones out making money.

Unless you are at least 60 yo, I don't think you should be calling me son. I am 42.

Gouge 11-18-2011 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 18568055)
You have a serious comprehension problem...no wonder you can't understand the OWS protest movement (not that you appear to have made much of an effort).

The tanks represent the 1%, the people heading towards the tanks are the 99%.

Did you really not get that? :1orglaugh

Look at the poster again...(Hint: Now think Tiananmen Square - get it?)

If the banks and corporate America that make up the 1% truly cared so much about the "everyday worker who is out there to work to pay bills and have food on their table", there would not be a growing movement for change.

Watch to the end... :winkwink:



For those that are not slaves to the 1%:



Peace and Love,

ADG

I clearly understand the Anti-Capitalist progressive fringe influenced OWS movement. But why are you quoting supporters of the OWS movement and claiming they are mine?

...

[-]Bambi (Buffalo, NY) 0 points 3 days ago

NON violent yet you have army tanks on the poster? Isn't that hypercritical?

Taking down Wall Street, take the square, occupy the subways? All you are suggesting is that you want to hurt the 99% that work in offices and buildings on Wall Street, businesses surrounding the square and jamming up the subways so bad that the 99% can't get to work.

This is not a peaceful productive poster. It shows anger towards the every day worker who is out there to work to pay bills and have food on their table.


...

Thats a single quote from a OWS supporter found HERE speaking out as to there dislike about the poster.

Lets talk about your comprehension problem, clearly you are the one who has a hard time understanding that the text in Italics are quotes from other people. You must have missed where it said her name (Bambi) where she was from (Buffalo, NY) and when the post was made (3 days ago) and yet someone you quoted me as saying it.

nation-x 11-18-2011 10:14 AM

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all (people) are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, government has are instituted among (people), deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government . . . Declaration of Independence

Congress shall make no law . . . abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. (Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression)

". . . those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable." - John F. Kennedy

EDIT: Weird... the board added 'ha' in a number of places

12clicks 11-18-2011 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 18568932)
Unless you are at least 60 yo, I don't think you should be calling me son. I am 42.

You'd think you'd have learned more in that time.

Gouge 11-18-2011 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18568968)
You'd think you'd have learned more in that time.

Quote for truth :thumbsup

nation-x 11-18-2011 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18568968)
You'd think you'd have learned more in that time.

I have... I grew up in an evangelical Christian home with hardcore right winger parents. I thought I was a Republican until around 2003 when I started to see conservatism for what it really is. A mental disorder.

cykoe6 11-18-2011 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 18568096)
The OWS signs to "Tear down capitalism" were pretty specific.

But, I wonder if they were referring to Obama crony capitalism, or Milton Friedman free market capitalism. Is that your dilemma?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18568777)
Just keep watching FOX. As long as you're busy soaking in your tub of misinformation, the rest of the world will evolve around you.



Remember....... all information that supports the preferred narrative is "truth" and all information that contradicts the preferred narrative is "right wing propaganda".

Remember....... all left wing political violence and incitement is legitimate dissent and an understandable reaction to oppression and all right wing political violence and incitement is illegitimate, hateful and racist.

Remember....... giving government handouts to left wing activist groups and other preferred constituencies like green energy boondoggles is a legitimate function of government but giving tax breaks to businesses is outrageous crony capitalism and fascism.

Remember...... the OWS protesters are not Marxists just because they wave red flags and chant "smash capitalism" but all Tea Part members are hardcore racists because they are opposed to Obama and big government.


It is important to remember the ground rules if you are going to argue with the GFY red brigades. :winkwink:

Gouge 11-18-2011 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 18568995)
I have... I grew up in an evangelical Christian home with hardcore right winger parents. I thought I was a Republican until around 2003 when I started to see conservatism for what it really is. A mental disorder.

Please tell us more of this sad story...

porno jew 11-18-2011 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 18568896)
Nope, i said they picked that day to pay homage to 17N, they clearly talk about it in the link i posted that goes to the message forums. Some of the first comments about the poster and the day go back 4-5 days before anyone really picked up on it. And posted 3 random comments out of the hundreds that show OWS supporters aren't so keen on the idea.

I love how you're so defense about something you don't even understand :1orglaugh

i looked there is nothing. you are just lying. fuck off.

cykoe6 11-18-2011 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 18568995)
I have... I grew up in an evangelical Christian home with hardcore right winger parents. I thought I was a Republican until around 2003 when I started to see conservatism for what it really is. A mental disorder.


So you are just an overgrown teenager still angry and rebelling against your parents??? Could you be any more of a left wing stereotype? This whole affair is truly a battle between the responsible working adults and the spoiled rebellious children who feel entitled to material success without having to do any of the work required....... a sad state of affairs indeed. :disgust


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