100% correct Just look at how many of the UK's politicians got away with fiddling thier expenses which is outright fraud

Speaking of Irony, I've had some facebook battles with one person about OWS, he's so Pro OWS, he shits socialist manifestos. He complained last night about Monks outside his window banging their drums and making noise (He lives in SE Asia) wondering when they would shut the fuck up. I asked him what if they were OWS. He said if they were, he'd be out there with them. I guess they weren't OWS, then. Lame answer, but the mindset of the OWS crowd perfectly.

If you watch the various videos out there you can see that they were not surrounded.

The entire area behind the cop car was clear and in several you can see that the path between the cops and the cop car was clear.

So, yes, you are right. Video does not lie and they were NOT surrounded and they are spinning the hell out of it.

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The message, in a nutshell, is that our political voice is now bought and paid for, by the largest corporations, who do not give a flying fuck about you, or your supposed "democracy".

They don't care if your air is poisoned, if your salary ever goes up, if you have medical care, if your food is poisoned, if your vote doesn't count, if your air is poisoned - they just don't give a fuck about you!

To think that this message is not valid, is ignorance at it's highest level.

You are now part of the corporate machine that is attempting to blur, confuse, and pigeonholing the real message behind the core of the movement, because they know their very power may now be at stake.

Congratulation, you are another cog in the wheel that is running over our democracy! :thumbsup

Umm yea it's pretty obvious the cops went to where the protestors were to remove them. You think the protestors decided to go there "after" the cops showed up?

The crowd didn't move in and surround the officers until after they sprayed the students with pepper spray and started hand cuffing them. The crowd only moved in and ran the cops off after they used excessive and unnecessary force.

So yea there is a lot of spin going on..

yeah, I'm lining up to get pepper sprayed tomorrow after watching that. NOT

And what have you done to change any of it?

Except throw around rhetoric and ad hominem on the interwebs?

Seriously. Surrounded by WHAT? Unarmed college kids sitting on the lawn?!

The video in parts, or even as a whole, does not paint these cops with a positive brush whatsoever - BUT IT WILL MOTIVATE MORE COLLEGE KIDS TO UNITE - So thanks for that!

This has been said before every uprising in history. Not saying this is the one but there is one on the horizon either way. It's like clockwork but people forget every. fucking. time. Open a history book.

I'm not pro OWS nor am I anti OWS. They have some very valid and important issues that need to be addressed and changed. A lot of that message gets lost behind the loud yelling of their feelings on self entitlement. That they are owed at the expense of others for believing the hype and making bad decisions, if any decision at all. And that's why I can't be pro OWS, I've worked damn hard over my life to have what little I have, I pay my taxes and I don't owe random joe public anything.

Fuck The Police. :2 cents:

You have no idea what I do or don't do.

What are you doing to actively repeal .XXX ?

Exactly what I thought. Nothing. The loudest fucktards online are the ones who don't do a damn thing except argue the merits and deride those who have a divergent view of the OWS. Just like that guy I mentioned earlier with the Buddhist Monks. Hasn't done a damn thing except talk about it. All you are really good for, aren't you? Talk about it. At least the useful idiot are doing something. You? You are a coward that would rather argue about it online where you don't have to actually meet anyone face to face. Great job!

Nice try at deflection about .xxx let's stay with the subject at hand. Prove you've done something other than being a Fucktard on the interwebs.

Did you just make up imaginary, unsubstantiated support?

Why can't others argue that the vast majority of Americans are squarely against the so called "99%"?

At the end of the day, and generally speaking, Americans prefer law and order, safety and security... that's why they will fail. That's the only reason Bush Jr got elected the second time. That's why WTO protesters get beat down and forgotten about withing a few days.

Besides, eventually they start getting more unruly and ultimately lose more and more support. Particularly when other fringe groups join in like "anarchists" and general shit disturbers and vandalism, looting, fighting and everything else starts.

Everyone is all excited about "change".... no one knows what "change" means. That's how Obama got elected.

You have NO FUCKING IDEA, so just admit you know SHIT about me, and carry on.

I owe you ZERO information about the offline workings of my life, and your idiotic assumptions about me are meaningless.

Nah, they just donated 4.6 million to the nypd a few weeks after the protests started.

Change we can believe in.

You're right, you owe nothing. Though most people would be happy to share what they have done to make a change/difference. I'm not sure why you wouldn't want to share.

Peace and Love,

ADG

I love that, "we're just children" comment.

ummm, the cops were circled. A second groupl of cops came up from behind and started making people move off the sidewalk. They were on the same side of the crowd as the car was.

The kids that got sprayed had ample opportunity to slide over 3' in either direction. They opted not to.

Nice. You keep on deflecting why you are a poseur.

I'll keep on laughing at you.

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Alex,for $200 I will go with, *because he has done nothing.*

Let's go to the judges. YES that is a correct answer!

That's funny. Reminds me of the joke: How do you keep a moron in suspense?

Apparently I'm the guy that keeps calling you all out for being hypocrites.

I can see why you wouldn't like me, but that's really not my problem...

Online Poseur. Ironic you using the word hypocrite.

Were you looking in the mirror as you typed that out?

You are sad, dude. Go out and do something, instead of being a tard on the web. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

he says to himself, as he types away, on the web. :1orglaugh

In all seriousness though, I agree with you on the .xxx thing anyway, and coincidentally, I AM going out now.

Should I tell you where, or what I'm wearing? You know how much I like to share my personal life with nitwits and strangers on a message board. :1orglaugh

Look at your sad pathetic attempts at deflection.

I don't give a fuck about OWS. I'll do something about it by voting. What are you doing about OWS? Nothing.

Meet me at the Wood Pit in Montclair!

The 4.6 million dollars JPMorgan Chase "donated" bought about 700 arrests that night on the Brooklyn Bridge.

As Max Keiser puts it..

"Somebody who is definitely making the connection is Jamie Dimon, the CEO of J.P. Morgan, who last week gave USD 4.6 million to the New York Police Department to beef up police presence on the streets and to crack heads and to violently oppress protesters. So, Jamie Dimon is obviously quite nervous if he feels he has to hire more cops to protect him and his bankers. The same thing is true with Goldman Sachs. They beefed up their security. The people on the street know who the folks that are impoverishing them are. Around the world, they are beginning to touch a tipping point, especially using global technologies, social networking technologies. The economies of scale for the protesters will kick in and we will start to see a global push ack using some innovative ways to decapitalize ? that is to say bankrupt ? the worst offenders in the banking and corporate sector and I expect that to happen in the next few months."

People's Park, Berkeley, 1968
 

OWS has a ways to go. Back in 69 then Governor of California Ronald Reagan called in State Patrol and National Guard and they weren't just using pepper spray and batons they were shooting buckshot, not rubber bullets, and they cleared streets with bayonets.

Read and learn young patriots on how take it to the streets and accomplish something:

People's Park

The way things are escalating though I do think it is just a matter of time before there is another Kent State style massacre. Sad to say.

The laws apply to everyone. The difference is the 99% doesn't have a group of lobbyists pressuring to create laws that favor us instead of the banks.

According to KTXL and KFI only 11 of the 60 Demonstrators in the video were students, they where protesting a recently approved tuition increase in the University of California system. The OWS Demonstrators where trespassing as they are not students at UC Davis campus.

Officers left the quad area after making their arrests of the OWS Demonstrators for trespassing, leaving the field in a direction not obstructed by seated protesters. I fail to see the problem with School Administrators asking Campus Police to arrest and remove people who are not students at UC Davis and are trespassing.

If 100 webmaster from GFY went to UC Davis to protest .xxx and we had a sit in and would not leave the campus only common sense would tell us we are going to get arrested for trespassing. Only thing this video shows is the lack of common sense by OWS goons.

Shortly before 4 p.m., about 35 officers from UC Davis and other UC campuses as well as the city of Davis responded to the protest, said Annette Spicuzza, UC Davis police chief. They were wearing protective gear and some held batons.

She said officers were forced to use pepper spray when students surrounded them. They used a sweeping motion on the group, per procedure, to avoid injury, she said.

"There was no way out of that circle," Spicuzza said. "They were cutting the officers off from their support. It's a very volatile situation."

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/11/19/406...-arrested.html

There was no way out. The cops were surrounded and they had to battle their way to safety by pepper spraying 10 protesters sitting down LOL. She makes it sound like they were marines in Nam cut off and had to fight their way out against all odds. Great "newspeak" Annette, Orwell would be proud of big sister. I love how these automatons have the balls to say this bald faced lie even in the face of video showing clearly the opposite. Shows you just how bold the police are and how fucked anyone still living in America is- LOL

Sure would be nice if someone in the Media would confirm if these are in fact OWS goons or student demonstrators protesting the tuition increase.

They were doing nothing, huh?

So in other words, UC Davis decided it wasn't a campground, and ordered the students to remove the tents from the campus. They refused, and the police were called in to handle the situation. The students refused to cooperate, refused to move, and were arrested.

Don't pretend the kiddies didn't do anything here.

Oh, btw, it's not "Their University". It belongs to the tax payers.

It's comical how you quote an article, but pick and choose what you want it to say:

You forgot to mention the part where the students were told to take down the tents by the school.

Sorry Charlie. It's a school, not a fucking campground. It is not your property, and you do not have the right to pitch a tent on a college campus. They were told to remove the tents, and when they failed the police were called in to handle the disturbance. When the students failed to comply to police orders, well, they got sprayed.

I just can't see it being the current OWS folk though. A bunch of ragtag hippies, and uni students? Who do they have on their side that's of any importance? Jesse Ventura, Alex Jones, and Michael Moore? Nobody cares in the slightest what they say.

Get some highly decorated US generals, or even guys like George Clooney and Matt Damon. At least people respect them, and listen to what they say. Right now, it's just a bunch of dirty idiots sitting around in parks, wiggling their fingers at each other, and doing dumb stunts like raiding churches and yelling at the minister. Oh, and that human microphone thing has to go to. Wow, I can't possibly think of a more annoying way to try and convey a message. :)

I agree, there's a decent chance of a popular uprising on the horizon, but I highly doubt it'll be the current OWS. Everyone keeps saying another financial meltdown is coming, which is going to make 2008 pale in comparison, so maybe that'll be the trigger. If and when you have hard working, intelligent, respectable folk who have their life savings wiped out, then you can maybe expect something to happen.