Exactly. This is our main interest there.

Is they even get close to the Russian military base they will be attacked with 100% grantee. So the question is... do the US and "allies" want to start a nuclear war with Russia because of Syria?

1) 7th economic in the world.
2) The country which can destroy the life on the planet can not be called "regional power" by default.

I can bet that clown don't know that there are different time zones in the world.

Hahaha.. yeah, Russia will start a nuclear war over a failed, terrorist micro-state.

It's like watching 3rd graders talk about whose dad can kick whose dads ass... as if the dads care.

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Another ass-clown here? How many times should I repeat that Russia has no other weapon against the US aircraft carriers except the nuclear one. So if any Russian military unit will be attacked by the US aircraft carrier, it (the carrier) will be nuked (this is not a theme for fun or discussion, it's just a raw action algorithm). Will it turn into a global nuclear war or not? Not to hard to guess, right?

Why don't you understand why don't you understand that the chance of the next "Caribbean crisis" is much more possible than 20-30 years ago.

You believe Russia is going to attempt to destroy the planet because a boat gets attacked? Why are they moving around unescorted and defenseless ships? Why are they so incompetent that they can't defend themselves against attack without nuclear weapons?

Are Russians really that insane... or is it just you? You just admitted Russia is pretty impotent militarily, so why would you even believe they could successfully launch a nuclear missile AND hit a target?

You keep pointing to space shuttle explosions... do we need to point out that the Russians tried to copy the space shuttle and failed? Ever been to Moscow? Park Gorkova... its parked right there for children to play on... the only real use its ever seen.

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Are you that stupid, or can't you read my English? Russia is not going to start a war, but it will attack with nuclear weapon any US aircraft carrier in case if it will attack Russian units with any (read: non-nuclear weapon). This is not "what I think". It's just an algorithm. This is not a matter of choice or something like that.

hehe yea the difference is ours actually flew and went into space.. :winkwink:

http://www.k26.com/buran/assets/images/comparison.jpg

Shit happens and things blow up but for him to act as if the US space shuttle wasn't successful just shows he's grasping at straws. With out the US space shuttle that space station that is up there now would have never been built.

Ok any evidence of these drills? Haven't seen anything about that.

So the UN, which includes virtually every country on the planet, is going to help start or somehow aid world war 3? Then after it has finished collecting or controlling all the weapons and hold them? Then what?

Back to Russia thing, Russia wants the UK to oversee the political process, if they have deployed ships torwards Syria, they are probably just trying to protect themselves, or put a political boundry between Syria and the US.

Russia said, they want and need to take action but they wanted to do it politically. They have also urged both sides in Syria to drop their weapons, stop the fighting and the sort the problem out.

I wouldn't even be thinking of a Russia Vs US story going on here, couldn't be more wrong or further off from something like that happening. Russia has a good Relationship with the rest of Europe and even the US these days. Nuclear war is nothing but a scare tactic being used by governments.

Fuck Syria, Fuck NATO, fuck Assad, Putin and Obama.

FEDOR IS BACK :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

BTW, it was a real pleasure for my ears to hear how loud Putin was hissed off by the public in Moscow when has tried to improvise a speech after Fedor's win at M-1 Global Moscow. LOL ))))

Oh... its "an algorithm" - Didn't know you knew the launch codes. My bad.

First of all my Russian friend, let me just say... thats a good word for you. Algorithm. Good for you. Second of all, i sincerely doubt there are protocols for a nuclear response to an attack on a carrier even though the Russian military and its leadership is still old guarde and psycho, nor would that fall under their rules of engagement, created before moving the ship into position. Thirdly, a nuclear response would require the approval of the President (i.e. Putin since your president is just a puppet), lastly there is no reason at all to think the US is going to attack a Russian aircraft carrier for any reason at all unless you are 10 years old.

i love these threads...

Yes it's your bad. RTFM dude. There is no "launch codes" for tactical nuclear weapon (the one which is intended to be used against aircraft carriers, e.g. SS-N-19 "Shipwreck" go and compare their specs with TLAMs etc)

Let me tell you one secret, my little friend. Putin is also just a puppet. If you believe he really dose rule the country, I just feel sorry for you. Clueless is a bless :)

Once again fuck it all! :)

You really seem like you want nuclear war. Why is that? Why are you so angry for a Russian? It always seems that Russians are drunk, scamming and angry and slamming the rest of the world for anything and everything while talking about their own greatness... which the world cares nothing about.

Did you know the entire planet does not know or care who Pushkin is?
Did you know the entire planet did not ever consider Moscow to be the "Capital of the World"
Did you know your entire military is feared by absolutely no one?
Did you know that had the price of oil not went through the roof in the last decade, Russia would still be a bankrupt nation, still begging the international community for money and still funding the government with ponzi schemes like the GKO bonds?


Was your father a military officer that ended up with no pension and had to whore out his troops to dig ditches for construction companies?

It's funny how different Russians are from other CIS states. The others are quietly going about their lives and being happy while Russia was often pounding its chest with one hand and holding out the other for international loans and financial aid

menshe znaesh, krepche spish

No I don't. I just tried to explain some redneck that military guys are not politicians or GFY keyboard ninjas. They are acting according to the simple instructions. Fortunately the US government is not that stupid as you and they understand these simple things :)

Once again: fuck them all. I'm in a very good mood now :)

lol did you get your ration of vodka? :winkwink:

Right.. you are saying that you have inside knowledge to the fact that their current rules of engagement state that if they are fired upon or attacked in any way, shape or form (presumably this also includes direct and indirect threats and/or harassment), they should launch tactical nukes in response.

You know that because you are probably a high ranking military FSB official or at least the first officer in command of the ship? Or maybe you are in the Kremlin right now shuttling around high level communications between Putin and the ship? Are you an embassy official passing translating high level messages between the White House and Kremlin/US Embassy in Moscow?

Dude you are trying to argue with a certified moron. As proven in many threads, Squealer has little to no reading comprehension skills and often contradicts his own posts within a thread :1orglaugh

Really man, there is no point in arguing with this twit because in his mind he is always "winning" ;)


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Idiot, Chechnya is a part of Russia and the Chechen "soldiers" are (were) actually terrorists hidding in the mountines and fighting as partisans, attacking small Russian villages and killing people. There were several hundreds of them, not just a handful.

Smart ass, can you tell me how come American army has not been able to kill all the terrorists in Afghanistan with all the helicopters, soldiers, rockets etc they have??? Arent those just poorly armed guys with AK-47s??

"Uneducated" ..LOL What you wrote just shows how stupid and UNEDUCATED you are.

are we still paying for them to dismantle their old fleet/nuclear facilities

Rose d'Anjou if it really does matter :)

+1 for SpicyM post...
show me different beetween Chechen "brave rebels"

http://true-war.clan.su/_fr/0/0160848.jpg

and Iraqui "fucking terrorists"?

http://busam.bahcesehir.edu.tr/rapor...kcalismasi.jpg

.. or the great Lybia rebels , to that effect ... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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there is no god but allah :)

You could get rich opening up a RebelGap or Old Tangos clothing line store in some of these countries.

Check out our hot cargo pants with special grenade clip ons or this seasons hottest para military style combat vest, with extra pockets for all your AK ammo clips.

I guess chechen terrorists don't have such good tan from sun like others? Please add some more great democracy fighters in Bosnia armed and supported by "west".

http://www.serbianna.com/columns/sav..._files/011.jpg

And don't forget Kosovo:

http://www.ex-yupress.com/evnovosti/...ladecapit1.jpg

The USA already tried to kiss Islamists in Afghanistan and they got 9/11 (nobody was surprised actually). Now they are playing the same game in Iraq, Egypt, Tunis, Libya and Syria. I can't predict how long it will take before next 9/11, but Israel is the first one in the line already.

Is there anybody who knows why Obama supports extreme Islamists all around the World?

One answer is...they have safe haven in Pakistan. They come across the border...do their thing...and retreat back across the border.

Because it is simple. Divide and conquer. Those islamists are non educated and primitive enough that you can always activate them and make problem in some region. At the other hand, you can always attack them since they will never make serious organized army. How can islamist state of Libya can be better then Ghadafi organised state with banking system,schools,hospitals, development for example? It can't of course. If some region or country don't obey to USA order, they will activate shit there with muslims (example FYROM Macedonia, or Ra?ka area in Serbia or Medveđa also).

i thought you were talking about the US and Afghanistan there for a minute.

what the fuck is wrong with you dutch people?

Yeah,... i'm an idiot.

Chechnya pushed Russia out and gained independence RECOGNIZED BY RUSSIA in the first war.

You think i'm dumb?

Really?

You don't know your own fucking history?

Handfuls of fighters with small arms and sniper rifles crushed the Russian army and forced them out and forced Russia to accept and legally recognize their independence.

The whole idea of terrorists hiding in Chechnya was just Putins way of getting elected again being appointed Prime Minister by Yeltsin 6 months before the elections. His only real immediate promise to Russia was to take Chechnya back.... then magically, all these small border skirmishes started happening. As far as attacking small villiages etc... uhm... yeah. There were most likely legit attacks in some form. I know plenty of people from that region. However, there was also a massive and obvious propaganda campaign by the Russian government to over state the magnitude of what was happening. I mean fuck man, Russians don't even believe that shit. Laughable non stop news reports about massive border firefights, but no signs of wounded people, exploded vehicles, dead fighters etc. The apartment building bombings in Moscow.. then the bomb found in Kazan apartment building where local police and KGB said it was just for practice. The Russian government is so bad at propaganda its unreal. They don't even try to make shit believable.

All the real terrorism in and from the region, including pankisi gorge etc started after the second war had already been under way and continued after the war (Nord Ost, plane bombings etc)

So thanks for the history lesson...

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I guess that this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_...hostage_crisis ,was also propaganda by Russians, right?

I mentioned that in my post dumbass. That has nothing to do with the first war and Chechnya or the second.

Nice try.

Everyone understands that radical Islam got worse after 9/11 and I was in Moscow while this was happening. That also has nothing to do with Russia being humiliated in Chechnya in 2 wars where their entire military might was brought to bear on the nation and still took 2 wars and 1/2 a decade of fighting to only gain some control.

Further, people can compare it to Afghanistan. NATO/US are not surrounding capital cities like Grozny leveling the entire city with artillery either.

It was years of this below... that allowed Russia to finally gain control of Chechnya again... not great military skill and advanced weapons and tactics.

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I am avoiding to read post by someone stupid like you ,with even more stupid avatar, that's why I've overlooked. If terrorists demand was to withdraw russians from Checenya, how you can even say that it is not related to war in Checenya...anyway,if you are taking about military skill and tactics like it is something easy , why NATO is still fighting in Afghanistan and didn't do anything in Iraq (except killing at least 500 000 more people then Russians did in checenya). Most stupid sentence about islamists started doing worse after 9/11 is separate story . Yes, they did many terrible things in Balkans for example, (with US help of course) much before 9/11.(some US presidents even have monuments now for helping them out). Problem is that you never heard about it but that doesn't change anything, you arrogance and lack of information are constant and I am sure it will be like that forever.

And about US army not doing things like leveling cities, let me tell you what they do because I live in a place where they did it: when they see that they can't win against military resistance, then things like bombing markets with cassette bombs will start. But that's just one example, trains full of people, columns of refugees,even completely civilian parts of town will be bombed as revenge for not being successful to fight back (not to mention deliberate destruction of civil infrastructure and industry). Now, I can give you videos and photos for any of those astrocities, but I won't because It won't change anything. If you want to know, you will find it by yourself. As from previous experinces, typing shit like this waste of time so I don't know why I am doing it at all.

Why do you keep trying to turn the subject from Russians history of military ineptitude to the USA in Afghanistan?

I mean, I don't blame you for trying... but Afghanistan is hardly the topic of discussion.

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Russia and China have nukes, but Texas has Chuck Norris.

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Yes they are. Radical Islam didn't get worse after 9/11, what happened was Americans went to their homes and tried to kill them there. That's where the violence came from, it wasn't from radical Islam. It wouldn't have mattered if those people were atheists, Christians or Jews, they all would have reacted in the same way.

Village in Afghanistan before and after.

http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/201...2162639263.jpg

And the US is still fighting in Afghanistan. Don't pretend like Americans are somehow tougher than the Russians, Russia would wipe its ass with America in a land war, your average American soldier is a little bitch when you compare him with your average Russian soldier.

The US seems to be okay with the idea of starting a nuclear war over a failed terrorist micro-state, Israel.

What does the US have to do with Chechen terrorism in Russia, against Russians?

I know full blown retards capable of more intelligent debate

It was 2:45am, I was going to bed. Its clear that someone doesnt understand time zones, but its not me.

My point is, that a nuke is a nuke. You were bragging about launching 16 at a time, big deal. You going to launch 16 at an aircraft battle group? No. You're not going to do anything.

You came into a thread about Russian warships moving to Syria, and we are all like, so what who cares about Syria. You can have it. Then you're going on and on about nukes and subs and space shuttles and insulting your customers. Over Syria. Have you lost your mind?

This is like talking to little kids. Goodbye.

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Don`t really know, but you brought it up ( post # 9 ):

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18571960&postcount=9


So you should be able to explain, unless it is just another silly rant on your part