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Just Alex 11-22-2011 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Evil1 (Post 18577150)
Attention Idiots: US and Russia will never have a nuke party. The very simple fact is both sides know the other side has more than enough firepower to remove each others country completely from earth. For one to fire on the other is the equivalent of suicide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_assured_destruction
Stop talking nonsense. We have a party here.

digitaldivas 11-22-2011 02:17 AM
yeah read this a couple of days ago

digitaldivas 11-22-2011 02:40 AM
http://rt.com/politics/makarov-nuclear-russia-nato-575/

TheSquealer 11-22-2011 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18577095)
Boy, you must be 18 years old or something. We poured millions of dollars into Afghan resistance to Soviets with Stingers and modern weaponry. You are so full of shit. Now they are fighting with those ak-47 and whats left over and we still can't get rid of they. And no-one will. British tried it, Soviets tried and we will leave the same way they did. Those people are born to fight. If there isn't a foreigner, they will fight each other.
You are an idiot. :2 cents:
We only started actively aiding the Afghans VERY late in the war. Initially, it was a bunch of villagers mostly with bolt action rifles and horses, STILL keeping the Soviets at bay.

Soviets were fighting in Afghanistan for 9 years. Not a weekend.

TheSquealer 11-22-2011 05:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18577107)
Russians could have bombed the shit out of them with migs but "western democracies" would have gone apeshit about it.
That is true actually, many Chechens already had significant Afghan experience. They were not however a solid, well trained, well organized fighting force. They had weapons from the Soviet Union and they were also freely buying weapons (including tanks) from Russians.

Uhmm... yeah. Russian WAS bombing the shit out of them... leveling Grozny and other cities completely with artillery and fighter planes. I mean fuck man,... the entire capital city was razed to the ground.

The world wasn't going apeshit because the world has no interests in the region. I have many many friends who were in Chechnya on contracts in the first war. Russia had to pay experienced soldiers and mercenaries to fight because the majority of the existing army was totally inept, undisciplined and unmotivated to fight.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-w-hOOOVUa6...25281%2529.jpg

http://eyeofthestorm.blogs.com/photo...ed/grozny1.jpg

http://www.mostdangerouscities.org/f.../08/grozny.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Bx61HrHduN...400/044_bw.jpg

Just Alex 11-22-2011 07:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18577743)
We only started actively aiding the Afghans VERY late in the war. Initially, it was a bunch of villagers mostly with bolt action rifles and horses, STILL keeping the Soviets at bay.

Soviets were fighting in Afghanistan for 9 years. Not a weekend.
WTF, moron? War started in 79 and in mid 79 Carter sent first aid to Afghans! Late in the war?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan

Idiot...

Just Alex 11-22-2011 07:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18577751)
That is true actually, many Chechens already had significant Afghan experience. They were not however a solid, well trained, well organized fighting force. They had weapons from the Soviet Union and they were also freely buying weapons (including tanks) from Russians.

Uhmm... yeah. Russian WAS bombing the shit out of them... leveling Grozny and other cities completely with artillery and fighter planes. I mean fuck man,... the entire capital city was razed to the ground.

The world wasn't going apeshit because the world has no interests in the region. I have many many friends who were in Chechnya on contracts in the first war. Russia had to pay experienced soldiers and mercenaries to fight because the majority of the existing army was totally inept, undisciplined and unmotivated to fight.
Sure you did. You probably had friends in Afghanistan war as well. You're so full of shit.

TheSquealer 11-22-2011 07:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18577917)
WTF, moron? War started in 79 and in mid 79 Carter sent first aid to Afghans! Late in the war?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan

Idiot...
You are confusing aid in the form of food/medical aid/training by US and SAS with high tech weapons. They weren't sending them Stingers and advanced weapons until the very end and the Soviets expulsion quickly followed once they were aggressively downing helicopters and fighter planes with stingers.

TheSquealer 11-22-2011 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18577926)
Sure you did. You probably had friends in Afghanistan war as well. You're so full of shit.
I had many friends who were getting paid 400.00 - 600.00/mo or so during the first Chechen war to go fight. Whether I did or didn't or whether or not you think i'm full of shit, doesn't change the simple fact that Russia had to hire fighters to fight because their own troops were inept and apathetic.

Just Alex 11-22-2011 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18577933)
You are confusing aid in the form of food/medical aid/training by US and SAS with high tech weapons. They weren't sending them Stingers and advanced weapons until the very end and the Soviets expulsion quickly followed once they were aggressively downing helicopters and fighter planes with stingers.
You have some kind of birth defect where you can't read or you just fucking with me?

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According to Brzezinski, CIA financial aid to the insurgents within Afghanistan was approved in July 1979, six months before the Soviet invasion, though after the Soviets were already covertly engaged there. Arms were sent after the formal invasion.[83][84]

United States President Jimmy Carter insisted that what he termed "Soviet aggression" could not be viewed as an isolated event of limited geographical importance but had to be contested as a potential threat to US influence in the Persian Gulf region. The US was also worried about the USSR gaining access to the Indian Ocean by coming to an arrangement with Pakistan.

After the Soviet deployment, Pakistan's military ruler General Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq started accepting financial aid from the Western powers to aid the mujahideen.[85] In 1981, following the election of US President Ronald Reagan, aid for the mujahideen through Zia's Pakistan significantly increased, mostly due to the efforts of Texas Congressman Charlie Wilson and CIA officer Gust Avrakotos.

Just Alex 11-22-2011 07:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18577936)
I had many friends who were getting paid 400.00 - 600.00/mo or so during the first Chechen war to go fight. Whether I did or didn't or whether or not you think i'm full of shit, doesn't change the simple fact that Russia had to hire fighters to fight because their own troops were inept and apathetic.
Oh sure. :1orglaugh

PR_Glen 11-22-2011 07:51 AM
you guys realize that Russia and China have ZERO interest in attacking western countries right? It would be counter productive to both those countries.

Nothing more than dick measuring and arm flexing... just like this retarded thread....

Just Alex 11-22-2011 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 18577960)
you guys realize that Russia and China have ZERO interest in attacking western countries right? It would be counter productive to both those countries.

Nothing more than dick measuring and arm flexing... just like this retarded thread....
Of course they don't. Neither do we.
What difference does it make if we have 7000 nukes and russian have 6999 ? All it takes is one to reach the ground. Only morons like squealer think it makes a difference.

TheSquealer 11-22-2011 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18577953)
You have some kind of birth defect where you can't read or you just fucking with me?
Aid went first in the form of financial and medical aid. Actual arms (small arms and ammo) were sent years after the Soviet invasion. Actual open involvement without any plausibly deniability in the form of stingers (i.e. where there could be no denying where weapons came from) came at the very end.

Unlike you, i am not looking up shit on wikipedia to make a weak argument.

Just Alex 11-22-2011 08:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18577973)
Aid went first in the form of financial and medical aid. Actual arms (small arms and ammo) were sent years after the Soviet invasion. Actual open involvement without any plausibly deniability in the form of stingers (i.e. where there could be no denying where weapons came from) came at the very end.

Unlike you, i am not looking up shit on wikipedia to make a weak argument.
Third time is a charm... I hope.

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Arms were sent after the formal invasion.
You do know what "arms" means, right? You can't be THAT stupid? or can you?

TheSquealer 11-22-2011 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18578074)
Third time is a charm... I hope.



You do know what "arms" means, right? You can't be THAT stupid? or can you?
I am well familiar with the history fucktard.

You aren't which is why you are playing semantics with wikipedia quotes and i'm not.

The USA did almost nothing for many years after the Soviets invaded. It began with spotty financial and medical aid, small amounts of small arms (insignificant) and graduated to training Mujahideen by SAS and US Special Forces and it was only in the very end of the war did significant funding and arms start going into Afghanistan by the US and at the end, it was the stingers that changed the war and pushed an already weary and mostly defeated Soviet military out.

This discussion happened within the context of Soviet military ability and how the Afghans were able to stop them. The US only played a significant role in the last year or two of conflict.

My point to you many times is that the Soviets were already bogged down and stalled well before the USA got ACTIVELY involved. My point to you was that the Soviets rolled to take over the nation and were instantly stalled, fighting people with bolt action rifles on horse back. Only later were they supplied with captured AKs/RPGs and ammo and only in small amounts.

The USA wasn't aiding the Mujahideen to help them defeat the Soviets. The USA was aiding the Mujahideen (for years with training, small soviet arms and medical/food) all just enough for years to keep the Soviets locked in a costly stalemate. That was the strategy. It was only the missiles in the end that provided the final blow. Nothing else.

The final Soviet defeat and its timing was about political timing, not tactical opportunity. It marked the beginning of the end of the Soviet Union and their loss of standing in the world as they continued to crumble financially, the berlin wall came down, Gorbechev was overthrown, lithuania et al started to revolt and demand independence etc etc etc etc.

Just Alex 11-22-2011 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18578354)
I am well familiar with the history fucktard.

You aren't which is why you are playing semantics with wikipedia quotes and i'm not.

The USA did almost nothing for many years after the Soviets invaded. It began with spotty financial and medical aid, small amounts of small arms (insignificant) and graduated to training Mujahideen by SAS and US Special Forces and it was only in the very end of the war did significant funding and arms start going into Afghanistan by the US and at the end, it was the stingers that changed the war and pushed an already weary and mostly defeated Soviet military out.

This discussion happened within the context of Soviet military ability and how the Afghans were able to stop them. The US only played a significant role in the last year or two of conflict.

My point to you many times is that the Soviets were already bogged down and stalled well before the USA got ACTIVELY involved. My point to you was that the Soviets rolled to take over the nation and were instantly stalled, fighting people with bolt action rifles on horse back. Only later were they supplied with captured AKs/RPGs and ammo and only in small amounts.

The USA wasn't aiding the Mujahideen to help them defeat the Soviets. The USA was aiding the Mujahideen (for years with training, small soviet arms and medical/food) all just enough for years to keep the Soviets locked in a costly stalemate. That was the strategy. It was only the missiles in the end that provided the final blow. Nothing else.

The final Soviet defeat and its timing was about political timing, not tactical opportunity. It marked the beginning of the end of the Soviet Union and their loss of standing in the world as they continued to crumble financially, the berlin wall came down, Gorbechev was overthrown, lithuania et al started to revolt and demand independence etc etc etc etc.

Keep on playing stupid, dumbass. Lets see CIA insider thats quoted in wikipedia or some mother fucking moron on porn forum? Hmmm, thats a tough one there. Im done with you. Bye. :321GFY

TheSquealer 11-22-2011 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18578610)
Keep on playing stupid, dumbass. Lets see CIA insider thats quoted in wikipedia or some mother fucking moron on porn forum? Hmmm, thats a tough one there. Im done with you. Bye. :321GFY
Again, all that article mentions is financial aid and intelligence (from the CIA) - The only real substantial AID happened well into the war and it was only increased slowly over time. Weapons were done in small quantities and covertly, using captured Russian weapons - they didn't have access to western weapons until the very end.

So far, you've said absolutely nothing that's contradicted anything i've said and your only source of information is you desperately searching google for information so you can formulate some sort of argument because at the end of the day, you have absolutely no clue what went on.

The only serious aid in terms of real western weapons and active overt involvement came from Ronald Reagan. Not Carter and the stingers themselves were the final blow to the Soviets. Not anything else.

SpicyM 11-22-2011 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18577751)
The world wasn't going apeshit because the world has no interests in the region.
The world wasnt going apeshit cause there were like 10 other countries either in war or in a danger of possible war.

Yugoslavia
Iraq
Somalia
Rwanda
Chechnya
The fall of Soviet union and Communists and several new states forming in Europe

Those all were crazy events. Thats why no one gave a shit.[/QUOTE]

Just Alex 11-22-2011 04:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18578649)
Again, all that article mentions is financial aid and intelligence (from the CIA) - The only real substantial AID happened well into the war and it was only increased slowly over time. Weapons were done in small quantities and covertly, using captured Russian weapons - they didn't have access to western weapons until the very end.

So far, you've said absolutely nothing that's contradicted anything i've said and your only source of information is you desperately searching google for information so you can formulate some sort of argument because at the end of the day, you have absolutely no clue what went on.

The only serious aid in terms of real western weapons and active overt involvement came from Ronald Reagan. Not Carter and the stingers themselves were the final blow to the Soviets. Not anything else.
God damn, you stubborn retard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone

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The U.S. offered two packages of economic assistance and military sales to support Pakistan's role in the war against the Soviet troops in Afghanistan. The first six-year assistance package (1981?87) amounted to US$3.2 billion, equally divided between economic assistance and military sales. The U.S. also sold 40 F-16 aircraft to Pakistan during 1983?87 at a cost of $1.2 billion outside the assistance package.
How much longer are you going to play this game?

TheSquealer 11-22-2011 06:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18579603)
God damn, you stubborn retard.

How much longer are you going to play this game?
I just figured out one of your problems. You don't seem to realize Pakistan and Afghanistan are two different countries.

Selling weapons to Pakistan, including fighter planes (concessions for other CIA assistance, access to bases, borders etc), bribing them with financial AID which was well know to go unaccounted for and giving them money/medicine to deal with the massive refugee camps that spilled over their boarders etc etc etc is not the same as arming and training the Afghan Mujaheddin to confront the Soviet army.

Again, the only real direct substantial aid to Afghan Mujaheddin fighters (which happened progressively over a period of almost a decade) that gave them any sort of edge and only substantial aid enough to change things came very late in the war and in the very end, it was the decision to send Western Stingers that ended the war because by that time the Soviet Union was too weak, too broke and too broken to do anything about it.

But keep going. So far you're learning both history and geography it seems as well as how to use Wikipedia... big day for you!

TheSquealer 11-22-2011 06:43 PM
Feeling nostalgic. Gonna watch The 9th Company again.

MetaMan 11-22-2011 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18572002)
Rusty by still deadly :)
Shut up you backwards cow milking pussy.

Just Alex 11-22-2011 07:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18579777)
I just figured out one of your problems. You don't seem to realize Pakistan and Afghanistan are two different countries.

Selling weapons to Pakistan, including fighter planes (concessions for other CIA assistance, access to bases, borders etc), bribing them with financial AID which was well know to go unaccounted for and giving them money/medicine to deal with the massive refugee camps that spilled over their boarders etc etc etc is not the same as arming and training the Afghan Mujaheddin to confront the Soviet army.

Again, the only real direct substantial aid to Afghan Mujaheddin fighters (which happened progressively over a period of almost a decade) that gave them any sort of edge and only substantial aid enough to change things came very late in the war and in the very end, it was the decision to send Western Stingers that ended the war because by that time the Soviet Union was too weak, too broke and too broken to do anything about it.

But keep going. So far you're learning both history and geography it seems as well as how to use Wikipedia... big day for you!
Ok, will play with you one more time, single cell amoeba .


Operation Cyclone


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On July 3, 1979, U.S. President Carter signed a presidential finding authorizing funding for anticommunist guerrillas in Afghanistan.[3] Following the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in December Operation Storm-333 and installation of a more pro-Soviet president, Babrak Karmal, Carter announced, "The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan is the greatest threat to peace since the Second World War".[22]

To execute this policy, President Reagan deployed CIA Special Activities Division paramilitary officers to train and equip the Mujihadeen forces against the Red Army. Although the CIA and Texas Congressman Charlie Wilson have received the most attention for their roles, the key architect of the strategy was Michael G. Vickers, a young CIA paramilitary officer working for Gust Avrakotos, the CIA's regional head.[23][24] Reagan's Covert Action program assisted in ending the Soviet's occupation in Afghanistan.[25][26] A Pentagon senior official, Michael Pillsbury, successfully advocated providing Stinger missiles to the Afghan resistance, according to recent books and academic articles.[27]

The program relied heavily on using the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) as an intermediary for funds distribution, passing of weapons, military training and financial support to Afghan resistance groups.[28] A
Gust Avrakotos, the CIA's regional head - what a delusional fool. None of this ever happened. And he is so confused - Pakistan is not part of Afghanistan. All them idiot !

TheSquealer 11-22-2011 07:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18579875)
Ok, will play with you one more time, single cell amoeba .


Operation Cyclone
Once again... the support in terms of direct support to the Mujaheddin started slow and slowly increased over years. It wasn't immediate. It wasn't immediately substantial weapons stocks. They were just a scattered, untrained, unorganized force.

Further, the initial help to them was simply a tactic to prolong the Soviets involvement there and to make them suffer morally, politically and economically. None of the assistance in the first 3/4 of the war was intended to give them a significant edge.. it was designed to give them just enough to resist and cost the Soviets lives and money.

You are trying to make it sound like the west showed up on Day 2 of the invasion and caused the Afghan resistance to win. Nothing is further from the truth.

Thanks for playing.

Keep digging, Keep learning. Hope wikipedia doesn't ban your IP for so many hits and searches per minute trying to construct any kind of argument.
:1orglaugh

Just Alex 11-23-2011 07:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18579880)
Once again... the support in terms of direct support to the Mujaheddin started slow and slowly increased over years. It wasn't immediate. It wasn't immediately substantial weapons stocks. They were just a scattered, untrained, unorganized force.

Further, the initial help to them was simply a tactic to prolong the Soviets involvement there and to make them suffer morally, politically and economically. None of the assistance in the first 3/4 of the war was intended to give them a significant edge.. it was designed to give them just enough to resist and cost the Soviets lives and money.

You are trying to make it sound like the west showed up on Day 2 of the invasion and caused the Afghan resistance to win. Nothing is further from the truth.

Thanks for playing.

Keep digging, Keep learning. Hope wikipedia doesn't ban your IP for so many hits and searches per minute trying to construct any kind of argument.
:1orglaugh
I find wikipedia far more reliable than your bullshit, kid. The support of Afghans started ahead of Soviet invasion, because U already knew it was about to happen. You have no argument, retard.
It says right there, 3.2 billion in first 6 years and 4.2 bilion in second 6 years. War ended in '89, so its not even half of 4.2. billion spent between 87 and 89. They actually spent more in first years of war than in last 3. Jesus kid, you are the dumbest fuck on this forum.

Operation Cyclone
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The U.S. offered two packages of economic assistance and military sales to support Pakistan's role in the war against the Soviet troops in Afghanistan. The first six-year assistance package (1981?87) amounted to US$3.2 billion, equally divided between economic assistance and military sales. The U.S. also sold 40 F-16 aircraft to Pakistan during 1983?87 at a cost of $1.2 billion outside the assistance package. The second six-year assistance package (1987?93) amounted to $4.2 billion.
Here's a another clueless a former CIA director and former president Carter's National Security Adviser writes in his book:

http://terrorism.about.com/b/2007/01...ve-thought.htm

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The USSR's invasion of Afghanistan was deliberately provoked. In his 1996 memoirs, former CIA director Robert Gates writes that the American intelligence services actually began to aid the mujahudeen guerrillas in Afghanistan not after the Soviet invasion of that country, but six months before it. And in a 1998 interview with the French weekly magazine Le Nouvel Oberservateur,former president Carter's National Security Adviser,"Zbigniew Brzezinski, unambiguously confirmed Gates's assertion.

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The role the Americans played in funding the "holy warriors'" resistance to the Soviets is reasonably well known, though it isn't so polite to talk about these days. What is far less known is that American funding of the mujahideen began before the Soviet invasion.
But what the fuck do they know?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You > Idiot. :1orglaugh

Just Alex 11-24-2011 09:24 AM
How does it feel to be complete idiot, TheSquealer?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Sid70 11-24-2011 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18572023)
I have no relation to "Nashi", "Vashi" or whatever. I just learned the military science when I was younger and I have an officer rank in Russian military reserve.
Hello cap, i am a cap and i know how to radar "vareniki"!

just a punk 11-24-2011 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 18583921)
Hello cap, i am a cap and i know how to radar "vareniki"!
Если с ангийским у тебя беда, то пиши по-русски. Тебя бедолагу хоть через translate.google.com можно будет понять. Ну не смешно уже, рельно. Галичина рулит?

Quote:
Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 18579815)
Shut up you backwards cow milking pussy.
Go fuck your horse redneck.

Sid70 11-24-2011 01:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18583986)
Если с ангийским у тебя беда, то пиши по-русски. Тебя бедолагу хоть через translate.google.com можно будет понять. Ну не смешно уже, рельно. Галичина рулит?



Go fuck your horse redneck.
Засунь свое сраное ебло в свою жопу, пролетарское чмо!
Stick your fat eblo in your ass, proletarian schmuck!

Sid70 11-24-2011 01:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18583986)
Если с ангийским у тебя беда, то пиши по-русски. Тебя бедолагу хоть через translate.google.com можно будет понять. Ну не смешно уже, рельно. Галичина рулит?
Заебал с Галичиной, историкам виднее, а ты даже хуй не сосал в те годы.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...n_monument.jpg



Memorial monument in Oakville, Ontario. Below reads, "To Those Who Died For The Freedom Of Ukraine"

RedGlamourStudio 11-24-2011 09:10 PM
а тем временем...
http://top.rbc.ru/incidents/24/11/2011/626721.shtml

ебанутые cвидомые заебали нереально - отсосали у фашиков, теперь сосут даже не у пиндосов, а у подпиндосников, паходу им сам процесс нравится :) Када грозная эскадра древних укров на авиассущих челнах появится у берегов Сирии? Или Дядько Сэм не давал команды выебнуться?

Grozny - capitol of Chechnya, presend day:

http://rzeczyc.files.wordpress.com/2...rov_mosque.jpg

http://i050.radikal.ru/1106/cd/01f7c1177a2e.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/a-popravko/images/grozny.jpg

http://f3.foto.rambler.ru/original/4...1%80%D0%BA.jpg

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/8...55a39da95c.jpg

http://s.glbimg.com/es/ge/f/original...echenia_ap.jpg

http://wsport.free.fr/images/Chechen...ov_stade/4.jpg

http://www.grozny-inform.ru/LoadedIm...Groznyiy_3.jpg

http://en.rian.ru/images/16108/71/161087113.jpg

http://www.mochaloff.ru/grozny/260.jpg

can you show me photos lшke this from Bagdad or Cabul of Tripoli?

just a punk 11-25-2011 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 18584220)
Засунь свое сраное ебло в свою жопу, пролетарское чмо!
Stick your fat eblo in your ass, proletarian schmuck!
Пpолетарскoе чмo этo кaк рaз ты. Eбaный нищебpoд - бeжeнeц.

just a punk 11-25-2011 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 18584246)
Заебал с Галичиной, историкам виднее, а ты даже хуй не сосал в те годы.
А ты, значит сосал? Гордишься этим наверно.

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 18584246)
Memorial monument in Oakville, Ontario. Below reads, "To Those Who Died For The Freedom Of Ukraine"
More pics one "Those Who Died For The Freedom Of Ukraine" (not from Wikipedia, sorry):

http://www.from-ua.com/upload/1dc758fb693fc8c.jpg

http://demo-pro.ucoz.ru/_pu/4/54334308.jpg

http://www.nazireich.net/forum/files...100000_295.jpg

http://demo-pro.ucoz.ru/_pu/4/63784483.jpg

http://www.from-ua.com/upload/996828bc8924faf.jpg

http://ukrainian-news.ucoz.ua/Pfoto/...02/8477-12.jpg

http://ukrainian-news.ucoz.ua/Pfoto/...Sflag1-web.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wL_QfCweSK...600/8477-7.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1Uft-zglv9...0/00011s0g.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PeNhcms_7i...20/8477-13.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OTtBYVUeYs...a_plakat_2.gif

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jNcZh7Pnp0.../697984355.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Sg5HUqQZOV...600/8477-8.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-EkRzpOdDRm...600/1639_5.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Vg3pAv_cCA...600/388067.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dCYNg4YQJM...0/IMG_3234.JPG

Историкам виднее, ага... So go fuck yourself :321GFY

Dcat 11-25-2011 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18572171)
It all depends if Russia believe that they are further down on the same hitlist, in which case they might not wait until they are the last ones left

World Wars are useful to the Bankers as it gives them the opportunity to reshape the world, people will easily accept major changes when coming out of a World War. If we had a world war, the cards would be shuffled, and perhaps the Bankers will come out with their United Nations in control

(after the 4 minute mark in particular)
Nice. You nailed it with that post. :thumbsup

d-null 11-30-2011 01:57 AM


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