it's always funny to see that if you disagree with anyone on GFY in a political discussion, you are automatically a supporter of a bunch of fringe lunatics ;)

doubt they gave out permits in tahir square.

What twisted logic? Its the law. People need to follow the law when they do anything. No news there. Laws are there to protect everyone's rights, not just those who want to protest something.

I'm all for people breaking the law to protest... i'm just not for pretending to be shocked and surprised when the police step in to remove them in accordance with the law or for breaking the law.

When you look at this "john Pike" guy, it's easy to understand exactly the type of guy he is. He wears jack boots around the house, and is always strapped with his trusty Colt 1911 .45, even when he's making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich ( because his mom is tired of doing it). There's also a large cache of Guns and Ammo in his bedroom. The magazine, and the real thing.

and all of his underwear has a desert camo print.

I just saw an interview with one of the "peppered" students on CNN.

Brooke Baldwin(hottie) asked this naive young girl why she didn't get up when the police asked, and her answer was something like: "I'm lucky enough to live in a country where civil disobedience and political dissent is encouraged".

I think she may have things a little twisted. This is what happens when colleges program kids to be raging liberals. They have a giant list of things to complain about before they've even gone out into the world and tried to raise kids, or keep a roof over their heads without mommy and daddy's help. Let's see how empathetic and socially aware she is after she's spent a few years working to pay down her school and credit card debt, or get that car she likes.

I'm still a supporter of OWS, but these kids crack me up.

the parents of these neo-hippies must be proud.

Did I say TheSquealer? Of course not, but you can't deny there are folks like that here.

Most departments only allow pepper spray use in certain circumstances I believe, and this is not one of those circumstances. If it is, it shouldn't be. This ugly fat fuck should be dealt with just like if he were a regular guy who went haywire and sprayed some people. It's assault and he belongs in jail, not on leave and certainly not on the streets.

Just because they are college students does not mean they don't know the difference between right and wrong or that our politicans work for donors and not the people.

Would the message be different if it were delivered by a small business owner who is a respected member of his community? No.

You fell for an old media trick.

so if a cop told you he had to have sex with your wife while he burns your house down, you would comply ?

of course not.. because people don't comply with unlawfull orders unless they are sheep.


"The president of the University of California system said he was "appalled" at images of protesters being doused with pepper spray and plans an assessment of law enforcement procedures on all 10 campuses, as the police chief and two officers were placed on administrative leave.

"Free speech is part of the DNA of this university, and non-violent protest has long been central to our history," UC President Mark G. Yudof said in a statement Sunday in response to the spraying of students sitting passively at UC Davis. "It is a value we must protect with vigilance."

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

watch for this bitch to be ousted by the end of the week

great video, great response

My bad. But now that i just just get you to say my name... is there anyway I can get you to do it again and pull my hair at the same time?

They do know the difference between right and wrong. Who suggested a college student would not?

Watched it. What is so great about it and what "response" are you talking about?

damn she just got the chill bone right up her arse...great video.


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OK, the footpath in the front of YOUR HOUSE is PUBLIC PROPERTY.

What if 50 hippies pitch 50 tents there for say... 6 months!

The police ask them to move on. THEY DON'T.

Public Property is SHARED PROPERTY - you can't pitch a tent and squat there!

Pepper spray is ideal to dissolve the situation from potential harm.

You simply can't disobey police face to face.

You can't do it on your own.

You can't do it with a few mates.

You might THINK YOU CAN DO IT in a crowd of 50 disobedients

but YOU are escalating the problem, not the police.

When police say DISPERSE it's for a reason!

it is easy to separate the wheat from the chaff here in this thread

you know you got a good thread when the photochops start

not to discount what you said but i am pretty sure this was on a campus, not public property but private property , and one that i imagine the students had paid to be on, makes it a bit different scenario

that just sounds like sheep talk.


Lets take a hypothetical situation, you are having a birthday party in a local park with 20-30 friends, a group of armed police suddenly show up and say "disperse this riot now or you will be pepper sprayed" ..

Would you run to your car or would you say "hey i think you have made a mistake , this is just a birthday party".

Lets imagine you chose the latter like 99% of people would :) and then got pepper sprayed.. would you say the pepper spraying was justified simply because the officer warned you and no consideration for the facts of what happened matter ?

the response of the students... fantastic.. just an utter cold rejection

she's toast

Only if you call me big daddy while I do it!

here's some free advice that will keep you alive :)

don't do any BOLTING around armed people..

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i wonder what our founding fathers would have done if there was cops telling them not to continue with the revolution

LOL

How would you remove that someone without using force? If he refused to leave.
Those cops clearly stated and warned that if they won't leave you will be sprayed and removed. What else could they do?

Ok I see someone explained it before me:

Explained in perfect order, whats not to get?

That wasn't a warning it was an imminent notice.

Your example is too skewed to be serious.

You don't have the right to argue law in the field with police, it's their call.

If you are given opportunity to leave, pending arrest otherwise then your only legal right is to either leave or argue in court while wearing prison greys.

It's *not* RIGHT WING to enforce authority.

There is a THIN LINE between your LIBERTY and LOSING MOST ALL OF YOUR RIGHTS.

If you get caught smoking a joint THEN you can be stripped naked every day of the week and ordered where to sit, stand and lie down for 5 years, and gassed to sleep in your cell IN PRISON

You guys are sweating the small stuff, pitching tents where you like and dishing it out to police is nobodies right.

I do not understand why some of you use that "paid to be on" argument. They paid tuition but they did not get permission to camp on the property. In this scenario property owner asked them to stop camping. If you are student there you do not get the rights to do whatever you want on that property just because you paid tuition. Tuition does not include camping. And Property owner was right to ask them to leave.

because they did..
i didn't see anyone camping or any scenario that looked like an attempt to enforce no camping rules.
then you stop them from camping.. you are aware of parking rules , but you would be hard pressed to find someone who expects to be tear gassed for it. normally we remove the car
nobody suggested or insinuated this was the case in any way whatsoever..

false , he can tell them to stop camping , he can't make them leave as they have paid to be there, he can make them stop camping.. that is what should have been done..

warning , notice whatever..
it wasn't meant as an analogy just a question..
of course you do.. you prob won't be very successful but it is your duty not to be bound by unlawful action
that isn't the debate , it is the pepper spraying.

huh ?:Oh crap

you're not making any sense!

the police ASKED THEM TO REMOVE THEIR TENTS

just like you are saying what they should have done!

This is your idea of Utopia:

POLICEMAN: THIS IS NOT A CAMPING AREA, PLEASE REMOVE YOUR TENTS

STUDENT: NO!

POLICEMAN: OK THEN, WOULD YOU LIKE SOME MARSHMELLOWS?

Don't be stupid. The police cannot order me to do such a thing. But if your creating a nuisance, disturbing the peace they can in fact tell you to leave and it's a perfectly legal order. This was a dispute between the children and the school, and the police told them to remove the tents and vacate the area - and the children refused.

I'm sure she's appalled. Her salary is paid for by these children.

I wonder if she was the one who made the decision to demand to the tents be taken down.

this had nothing to do with the tents, the tents were removed long before this. :)

these people are sitting on ground blocking the sidewalk nothing more, they are not sittin in tents.

in fact, the articles claim "the officers were surrounded" but you can easily tell by video, there is no circle anymore, they are in a single line across the walkway entrance to school, no tents, no circle.

And suddenly the conversation had little to do with tents and more to do with smores:1orglaugh

I feel another bad photochop coming on;)

Btw, some great looking logos on your site, will have to have you do something as soon as i figure out what it is!

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It's public properly, owned by the state of California. However, that does not give you the right to pitch a ten and do whatever the fuck you please.

In other words, I can't drive my car on the grass and park it there. It's public property, owned by the state, but that does not give me the right to do whatever the fuck I want there. You can't park on the grass, and you can't pitch tents.

Perfect analogy. The local park in my home town has ten picnic tables, and during the summer these are staked out by parents early in the morning so they can have their kids birthday parties there. The problem is there are more birthday parties than tables, and fist fights started breaking out - Four times this summer. Police were called up, and told all of them to leave or face being arrested.

Why don't you understand this: When police are called to a dispute and tell you to leave the area, that's a legal order. If you fail to obey them, your quickly on the wrong side of the law no matter what - You can start with trespassing, failure to obey a police officer, and creating a nuisance. At that point they can arrest you, and if you resist arrest you'll be taken down by force - including pepper spray.

This has nothing to do with protesting. The cops didn't come to break up a protest; The came because the college called them because the students were out of control and failed to listen to the administration. The cops came to the dispute, the children refused to listen, and the children got arrested.

It doesn't matter if it's children on a college campus or grown adults arguing over picnic tables in the local park.

heheh business first: yes! just hit me up man I get it done promptly.

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there's a lot of different accounts, the reports, the tents, the ownership of the property is not that important.

the students were

1/ nuisance
2/ disturbance
3/ trespassing
4/ loitering
5/ interfering with public access
6/ disrupting University work

Take your pick!

as well as not abiding by the University ethos

The police were rightfully called in and had the right to disperse the students.

If you remove the authority of police you live in anarchy.

It's like grabbing a kitten by the back of the neck, pepper spray SAVED any injuries from happening.

It was either that or going in with batons, or the law just lying down.

"Sorry Chancellor, the students said no they're going to block access to the University anyway, we asked!"

The kids were camping on the college campus. This is why they the police were called in the first place.

If you park your car on the fucking grass and are told to remove it by the police, and then refuse to move it... Your gonna be arrested. And if you link arms with everyone else in the car and resist arrest, your gonna be pepper sprayed.

The college can in fact tell them to leave. Just because the students pay tuition, it doesn't give them the right to do whatever they want. They can't walk into any classroom they want. It does not give them the right to camp out on campus, fornicate under the bleachers, or park your car on the grass.

At this point this incident had nothing to do with the college. Police were called to the campus because of a dispute; At this point it was a legal matter. If police are called to the your local Best Buy because your making a scene and the police tell you to leave, it doesn't matter that it's public property. Your either leaving or going to jail.

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sorry dude, but hard to resist;)


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