Want to get paid?
 

Now what to do with your bondage/bdsm traffic? Want to get paid? Why not join Struggle4Bucks affiliate program ( www.strugglingbabes.com).

I ask Epoch every week to "not pay my affiliates", but the fuckers just ignore my requests and always pay!:-)


Ratio`s:

January:

Average ratio: 1/413 (actually... the best was 1/28, but he send only 28/low traffic/lucky hit? maybe he signed up himself? :-))

Best Affiliate ratio: 1/349

Worst Affiliate ratio: 1/471

February:

Average ratio: 1/695

Best Affiliate ratio: 1/244

Worst Affiliate ratio: 1/1.625

March:

Average ratio: 1/225

Best Affiliate ratio: 1/106

Worst Affiliate ratio: 1/408

April:

Average ratio: 1/295

Best Affiliate ratio: 1/128

Worst Affiliate ratio: 1/587

May:

Average ratio: 1/349 (actually best was 1/39 but that 39 was all traffic he had send. Maybe he joined the program to join the site, doubted to sign up 38 times
and eventually joined the site the 39th time he visited the join form:-))

Best Affiliate ratio: 1/104

Worst Affiliate ratio: 1/892

June:

Average ratio: 1/402 (actually best was 1/19... low traffic... only 19 hits)

Best Affiliate ratio: 1/164

Worst Affiliate ratio: 1/454


(I disregarded affiliates that didn`t convert traffic into sales, so ratios are from affiliates that made sales)

DING DING DING.. Someone gets it.. I have no contact w/ John personally besides in passing at some fetish events and he would not know me from jack.. I have no horse in this race, I was just stating that the approaches being taken were not gonna get any results IMO.

And not to pull the post card, but I have been on here for over 7600 posts VS your 15 all in this single thread... :1orglaugh

No lezdom?

I built entire sites based on Ogre's lezdom sites, which means even if I find another decent lezdom site to promote I will basically have to start all over again with building mine. /rant

No sorry Crinkle, no lezdom-site yet... only StrugglingBabes at this point... I know I started 15 years too late in this business and got a lot of catching up to do compared to all the large networks:Oh crap but
i`m working on a b/g bondage-sex site right now that will be live in a few months from now. Lezdom is on my todo-list so if you can wait for another 15 years?:1orglaugh

It`s a niche within a niche, but if you can work with bondage and gag-fetish damsel in distress style content, then I think my content converts pretty well.

He hasn't got the money to buy this new Porsche he told me when I had him on the phone some months ago before he..................with the words Fuck........

Any dept collector in the house?

And please on topic, this is about payment!

I know he doesn't have the money for a Porsche. Someone who destroys a great revshare program does not have a lot of money left over from their drug habits. Like I said before, this wasn't some kind of risky PPS deal... it was just a simple revshare and this drug-fucked wannabe Rob Zombie couldn't even handle that, and his affiliates are now considered assholes who were taking a free ride.

He has even been posting on twitter looking for "rich and desperate" men who want to fuck a pornstar in a movie. He doesn't have money.

Oh dear this has turned into a right fuck up. A lot of what John is saying is pure drugged up bravado. He knows that no one is going to get a lawyer involved to recoup a few hundred bucks. He is on the defensive spouting off outrageous crap about affiliates but where would he be now without their niche traffic? Too many times we hear the free ride bollocks - since when has any affiliate forced a program to offer an PPS/revshare option? For the record he owes me nearly $400 - I doubt I'll ever see that. He used to be an okay kinda guy - I would talk to him on ICQ and email etc and while he didn't always pay up on time (lol) he did eventually and like I said before he actually paid $50 extra just for waiting one time!!!

Funny thing is Ogre would be the first to cry if someone stole his drugs or Porsche :thumbsup

I don't understand the "free ride" thing at all. I was buying niche domains, paying to host them, taking my time to write/build the sites, getting him some great google listings that would have otherwise gone to the competition, and all of a sudden I'm an asshole for wanting my cut. It doesn't make sense John.

Maybe we should all young together since he owes me more the a couple 100-s

Any deptcolector?

young=joing and the=then..........LOL bump

well he owes me ~$2500 since aug/2011... so it's not few 100's

Oh yeah guys I know you are owed more than a few hundred and that sucks. I'm fucking pissed at $400 so can understand when its in the $k's its even worse. But are you prepared to get some legal advice and pursue this a-hole through the courts? This is what JB is relying on... no one actually following up threats of legal action. :2 cents:

some money getting in our pocket???? maybe after this weekend?

use his content to promote other similar paysites, download his content from torrents and upload full movies to tubes, etc...

Why? Do you know something we don't?

I have received a wire transfer for these dates: 09/01/2011 - 11/30/2011

Two more payments are left, but this gives some hope, actually.

Good news. Maybe John has cut down to only an ounce per day and has a little money to pay up now. :pimp

yeah i got one payment too.

What was the date for yours bns?

for oct and nov 2011, however aug-sep and after nov 2011 there are many unpaid months...

OK well keep us updated if/when you get paid everyone.

it took him almost a year between two payments, who know when's the next one coming :)

what a fucking douchebag this guy is ....he's probably getting off in it and some sort of domination way like mistresses do with financial domination.

I have some of his links up time to drop long over due.

Also...shameless plug as we are here try to make money and always pay!
For others screwed and need to replace links check out www.missogyny.com our new and awesome hd lezdom site with device bondage.
Converting 1:270 now!

Any more payments?

After reading here I checked my paypal too.

I got this payment
12/01/2011 07/06/2012 10/01/2011 - 11/30/2011 USD 331.63

Only 7 months late! Still got 680$ on balance.

I remember competing with your site for google listings. :winkwink:

I've since given up on those sites because of this dungeon bank BS... hope you're doing OK over there.

BTW, you're still promoting DungeonBank to webmasters just above the site reviews and contact links.

Thanks for warning. I removed it.

Any more news on this drug-fucked loser yet?

http://i.imgur.com/OYcUy.jpg

I didn't have enough posts to attach that pic back when he posted it... but anyone who is thinking about doing business with this loser should see it.

Did anyone else get paid yet?

Still waiting here...

Ugh... not looking good, again.

nothing new here either...

only 1 payment ............... bump for more:)

Which payment period was this for?

Hope you get your payment.

let's hope for more payments soon :)

we live in hope... guessing pot prices have risen :winkwink:

Think his sales where down........;-)

I can't imagine why his sales would be down... he is such a professional guy and all.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

thats nuts..

Snickers are nuts... this is just bullshit.

more payments?

Still nothing here.

bump for more money

Bump for drug-fucked Rob Zombie wannabe (aka Ogre the cum swallowing clown).

yeah nothing new here either, that july payment was a drop in a bucket concerning that he owes more and more money from month to month...