OK so I got a twitter account and tweeted to the first 6 models that I listed above... and now my twitter account is suspended 30 mins after I created it. So my tweets are probably deleted too.

Can anyone else help get the word out? And maybe explain why my account was suspended so quickly?

"This account, @xxx, was suspended for sending multiple unsolicited mentions to other users."
How else am I supposed to do this?

look at his last tweet...

http://i.imgur.com/v9C0I.png

great way to show people who they do business with.

I guess he got the message then. He only wishes he had enough of our money left to buy a porsche though... he probably spends it all on weed and fake blood.

i.imgur.com/ekRwN.jpg
I can't add images in posts yet but he as posted a little more on twitter, pic above.

I think he cares... a few tweets to a few of his recent models and he suddenly has time to post about his affiliates.

rebills don't last forever and i really doubt anyone's sending him traffic.

let's see where will his arrogance lead him...

I was just thinking the same thing, how long can he keep the parties going before he figures out he fucked up a good business.

I had a bunch of SE domains exclusively promoting his rare niche stuff that was hard to find anywhere else, which is also why I put up with the payment delays in the past... he could've dominated a few profitable segments of the market if he wanted to.

I've just never seen an asshole like this lose all his money on a fuckin' revshare before, not even a big PPS deal, and then act like he is acting now. Very strange.

LMAO.. John is laughing in your face crinkle. He is gonna do what he is gonna do and you are not gonna see your money that way at all.. Either get a lawyer or a hells angel is the only way you MIGHT see something. John really just does not give a shit either way and will deal w/ it head on himself.

That is what makes it so strange. I've never seen someone fuck up like this before and then hang around like nothing happened. You seem to be OK with that though.

I don't mind if he's laughing now. He still has money to buy weed. We'll see what happens later. How long will his paid-for-friends hang around when there's no free beer and weed left?

Not saying what he is doing is right by any means.. I am just saying he is not gonna respond positively to anything said on the internet. John does not give a shit. He is living in the real world and will not give a shit about your approach at all in handling the situation. Thats why I know he is laughing at you right now and will go out of his way to NOT pay you now w/ the way you are trying to deal w/ it. Either man up or lawyer up to get your money. The keyboard warrior approach is just going to have the opposite reaction to what you are trying to do. :2 cents:

I'm a keyboard warrior? How so? I'm not the one talking about hell's angels and such.

I have been nothing but polite when dealing with DungeonBank, even while I waited many months before contacting a few of his recent models after hearing nothing from anyone in charge. It has got his attention, and I doubt he is laughing at much at all these days, seems like a very angry low budget Rob Zombie right now.

If he or Natali had just replied once, or shown any sign of doing anything, then I wouldn't have contacted anyone else, but I don't think it was unfair for me to take that extra step now.

You are clueless then and all I can say is GO FOR IT! Have fun trying to get your money now.. :thumbsup

Thanks. You have been a great asset to the community and added immensely to this discussion.

he owes money to the affiliates world wide who can't knock on his door...

But did he even bother to pay the people in his part of the world though? Or did he just pay his "blunt brothers" that show up here to defend him?

He is already deleting tweets.

And as always he is trying to scam money out of some more people.

Crinkle, i think you missed the point of revsand's posts. revsand, please correct me if i'm wrong here but... He wasn't condoning Dungeonbank's actions at all. he was just saying that that this p.o.s. Ogre/John won't suddenly pay you because of the approach you are taking. He'll just laugh at you, and keep spending his dwindling money on whatever.

I think in the end all revsand was saying is that if you want to get paid, your best bet is either hire some heavies to pay him a visit or lawyer up.

I got the point. He thinks I should do nothing, or do something illegal, or hire a lawyer for an amount of money that is not worth it. I'm taking a different option.

But if I "hire some heavies" I won't be called a keyboard warrior any more by his blunt brothers. That was another point he was making.

Anyway, Ogre doesn't know who I am. If he wants to pay me he will have to pay everyone that he owes money to. I have given him every chance to pay up before I contacted anyone outside his business.

i.imgur.com/OYcUy.jpg

Apparently I'm an asshole and having the privilege to promote his sites was a free ride.

is he retarded or what?

He has just deleted those last 2 tweets that I got a screenshot of. A bit late though. Bongs and twitter don't mix John.

Want to get paid?
 

Now what to do with your bondage/bdsm traffic? Want to get paid? Why not join Struggle4Bucks affiliate program ( www.strugglingbabes.com).

I ask Epoch every week to "not pay my affiliates", but the fuckers just ignore my requests and always pay!:-)


Ratio`s:

January:

Average ratio: 1/413 (actually... the best was 1/28, but he send only 28/low traffic/lucky hit? maybe he signed up himself? :-))

Best Affiliate ratio: 1/349

Worst Affiliate ratio: 1/471

February:

Average ratio: 1/695

Best Affiliate ratio: 1/244

Worst Affiliate ratio: 1/1.625

March:

Average ratio: 1/225

Best Affiliate ratio: 1/106

Worst Affiliate ratio: 1/408

April:

Average ratio: 1/295

Best Affiliate ratio: 1/128

Worst Affiliate ratio: 1/587

May:

Average ratio: 1/349 (actually best was 1/39 but that 39 was all traffic he had send. Maybe he joined the program to join the site, doubted to sign up 38 times
and eventually joined the site the 39th time he visited the join form:-))

Best Affiliate ratio: 1/104

Worst Affiliate ratio: 1/892

June:

Average ratio: 1/402 (actually best was 1/19... low traffic... only 19 hits)

Best Affiliate ratio: 1/164

Worst Affiliate ratio: 1/454


(I disregarded affiliates that didn`t convert traffic into sales, so ratios are from affiliates that made sales)

DING DING DING.. Someone gets it.. I have no contact w/ John personally besides in passing at some fetish events and he would not know me from jack.. I have no horse in this race, I was just stating that the approaches being taken were not gonna get any results IMO.

And not to pull the post card, but I have been on here for over 7600 posts VS your 15 all in this single thread... :1orglaugh

No lezdom?

I built entire sites based on Ogre's lezdom sites, which means even if I find another decent lezdom site to promote I will basically have to start all over again with building mine. /rant

No sorry Crinkle, no lezdom-site yet... only StrugglingBabes at this point... I know I started 15 years too late in this business and got a lot of catching up to do compared to all the large networks:Oh crap but
i`m working on a b/g bondage-sex site right now that will be live in a few months from now. Lezdom is on my todo-list so if you can wait for another 15 years?:1orglaugh

It`s a niche within a niche, but if you can work with bondage and gag-fetish damsel in distress style content, then I think my content converts pretty well.

He hasn't got the money to buy this new Porsche he told me when I had him on the phone some months ago before he..................with the words Fuck........

Any dept collector in the house?

And please on topic, this is about payment!

I know he doesn't have the money for a Porsche. Someone who destroys a great revshare program does not have a lot of money left over from their drug habits. Like I said before, this wasn't some kind of risky PPS deal... it was just a simple revshare and this drug-fucked wannabe Rob Zombie couldn't even handle that, and his affiliates are now considered assholes who were taking a free ride.

He has even been posting on twitter looking for "rich and desperate" men who want to fuck a pornstar in a movie. He doesn't have money.

Oh dear this has turned into a right fuck up. A lot of what John is saying is pure drugged up bravado. He knows that no one is going to get a lawyer involved to recoup a few hundred bucks. He is on the defensive spouting off outrageous crap about affiliates but where would he be now without their niche traffic? Too many times we hear the free ride bollocks - since when has any affiliate forced a program to offer an PPS/revshare option? For the record he owes me nearly $400 - I doubt I'll ever see that. He used to be an okay kinda guy - I would talk to him on ICQ and email etc and while he didn't always pay up on time (lol) he did eventually and like I said before he actually paid $50 extra just for waiting one time!!!

Funny thing is Ogre would be the first to cry if someone stole his drugs or Porsche :thumbsup

I don't understand the "free ride" thing at all. I was buying niche domains, paying to host them, taking my time to write/build the sites, getting him some great google listings that would have otherwise gone to the competition, and all of a sudden I'm an asshole for wanting my cut. It doesn't make sense John.

Maybe we should all young together since he owes me more the a couple 100-s

Any deptcolector?

young=joing and the=then..........LOL bump

well he owes me ~$2500 since aug/2011... so it's not few 100's

Oh yeah guys I know you are owed more than a few hundred and that sucks. I'm fucking pissed at $400 so can understand when its in the $k's its even worse. But are you prepared to get some legal advice and pursue this a-hole through the courts? This is what JB is relying on... no one actually following up threats of legal action. :2 cents:

some money getting in our pocket???? maybe after this weekend?

use his content to promote other similar paysites, download his content from torrents and upload full movies to tubes, etc...

Why? Do you know something we don't?

I have received a wire transfer for these dates: 09/01/2011 - 11/30/2011

Two more payments are left, but this gives some hope, actually.

Good news. Maybe John has cut down to only an ounce per day and has a little money to pay up now. :pimp

yeah i got one payment too.

What was the date for yours bns?