You would think that grown adult can make connection between two words containing the same root. Terror - Terrorism. But not here, not on this board. Its a bout smacking your wife. Unfucking real. :1orglaugh

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Here is some examples of Israel threatening Iran:

http://edition.presstv.ir/detail/63279.html
http://news.antiwar.com/2011/02/16/i...warship-claim/
http://www.campaigniran.org/casmii/i...hp?q=node/5644
http://articles.cnn.com/2008-06-06/w...ns?_s=PM:WORLD
http://www.infowars.com/israels-peres-threatens-iran/
http://rinf.com/alt-news/politics/is...truction/2913/
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...396791,00.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ear-plans.html


LOL, threatening to attack Irans nukes if they continue development. Iran has many many times called for the complete desruction of Israel. Why don't you post links to all of those stories?

Israel will attack Iran. There is no question about that . I think their announcements of it was so the world doesnt go apeshit on them when they make a large part of Iran a parking lot.

If your next door neighbor told you many times he will kill you and your family, then you see him installing a loaded cannon pointing at your house wouldnt you blow his cannon to hell before he finished pointing it at you? Stupid anolgy but you get it.

[QUOTE=Choker;18596603]I'm sorry complete destruction of Israel? When did Iran call for that?

If my next door neighbor had nuclear weapons pointed at me and all I had was that loaded cannon am I really a threat to him?

That said Iran never said the wipe Israel off the map thing. It was an error in translation and that correction has been made many, many times.

Why let the people choose? Why not let land owners choose? The jews want to buy the land fair and squarely.

Living under muslim rules often sucks.

I would be for palestinian if they want monetary compensation for their lost land. I would side with palestinian if they allow jews to buy land and do biz in palestinian.

The issue is not one sided. While not perfect, Israel is not too discriminatory. Arab in Israel earn more than arab in arabs. In Palestines, jews can't even live. If I have to choose between an inch of land going to Israel or going to Palestine, it's an obvious choice.

For the PRIVATE ownership I'd go for palestinians. But jews wanna buy land anyway and it's up to individual palestinians if they want to sell. But it's POLITICAL ownership, and not private ownership they're fighting about. For the POLITICAL ownership, I'd go for Israel.

In Palestine Jews and Arabs lived side by side until the Jews wanted to change the country into two separate states. There were even Jewish travel agencies that pushed Palestine as a tourist destination before it became Israel. The reason that the Palestinians don't live side by side with the Israeli isn't because the Palestinians don't want them living there, it is because Israel gives them benefits for living in Israel. That said, there are tons of Jews living inside the Palestinian territories in settlements across Palestine.

An Arab in Israel will earn more in Israel than in Palestine because Israel doesn't give Palestinians a chance to let their economy flourish. Palestinians don't have equal rights to Israel so the idea that Israel isn't discriminatory is just wrong. There are roads that are Israeli only that Palestinians aren't allowed to use, there are areas where Palestinians aren't allowed to live, marriages between an Israeli and a Palestinian aren't even recognized in Israel.

About selling land to each other, I can't just sell the land my house is on here in Canada to another country. That isn't how it happens, I can sell the house and land to another person but the land is still on Canadian ground.

There are clear boundaries that almost everyone in the world (except Israel) feels that Israel and Palestine should follow. The Palestinians are happy with what the world wants, it is the Israelis that constantly refuse and reject negotiations based on those 1967 borders.

[QUOTE=Choker;18596603]That's a good analogy if you don't take into account that you too already have your own cannons aimed at them.

In fact, that's how peace are maintained. People aimed cannon to each other that we're all sure that it's not toward our best interest to strike.

That being said, Iran is not a democracy. Their leaders don't give shit about destruction of their people.

This is also misleading. Arab riots against jews are around long before the foundation of Israel. Holocaust is a message that you need more than money to hang out. You need power. And muslims are power hungry. That's why they're not as advanced as western europe now. They're too busy fighting each other rather than inventing better iPad. No wonder jews don't want to be ruled by them.
The fact that it's still on Canadian ground is a minor issue. If Israel buy the land and most of the land are bought by jews anyway, hy can't they make the rules, such as rules legalizing prostitution?

That is exactly where the problem is. If you earn money honestly and buy land fairly, you are still ruled by assholes who out of a whim can seize your land. So it has to be done the hard way.

I am actually on the palestinian side when it comes to the private issue of the land. In ideal world, the land should still privately owned by palestinian that can then sell the land at market price to jews or live there if Israel's government allow it, which Israel should do once peace is established.

However, on political issue of the land, I am definitely pro Israel.

Supporting palestinian means agreeing to those who wants to prohibit porn. That's just unthinkable. Another piece of land porn free. You really want that?

Why should we favor a muslim ruled land over a relatively free liberal land in Israel? You think you can watch porn in muslim countries? C'mon. If people want to play tough on others, why should we support them? Anyone opposing porn is the bad guy.
The arab has no compunction to break the boundary when they think they have the upper hand. The war is not one sided. The arab eagerly fight too, except Lebanon.

Let them. While any loss of life is uncalled for.. I cant help but see a slightly brighter economic future. I wont even explain my reasons because they may seem anti-semetic to some but Isreal has to go for this world to balance out financially and to bring more peace.