If that were true youd need not say it.

IT IS TRUE - I like getting people going though.

Its $1.49 Cheeseburger day at Mcdonalds...That makes me happy

I disagree with this only because part of fulfilling the illusion of status for yourself hinges on others feeding it. You said you still didn't consider yourself a somebody, and I think you won't realize this in your mind until you have the voices of many that share it. Therefore you do care. Not only do you care.... you require it.

but I could be wrong. :)

you sound like a kid pointing a finger at me yelling 'you care you care'

well... that's what I am! :glugglug

This is true. Different tactics, same outcome.

I got a friend who drinks BUSCH beer but he owns a lexus. 3.99 a 6 pack but drives a car worth more than the house I was born in.

he bought a bar in new orleans at 24 with a 19k loan.

he is younger than me, and he still calls me all the time, we have been friends since we were 15. he is much more successful than me. a professional and world travelled videographer, trvelles Alaska and Africa filming wildlife for a year... owns his own AVID system 40k and has long hippy hair, full beardm and totally wants to live out in the wilderness and smoke pot and drink whiskey like a survivlist nature boy hippy.

but he lives just off Bourbon street in new orleans in a very old aweseome apartment overlooking bouron street.

his bar rules. i picked out most of the shit on the jukebox.

me and all my friends drink free there, eat free. whatever, its on the house.

anyone in my family can eat and drink for free.

why? When his dad moved from new orleans I let him live at my grandmothers house to finish off the senior year of highschool.

real friends dont change or turn their back on you no matter how much money is involved.

real friends dont fucking quit hanging because of money.

this 'rich' status is bullshit, me and my boys only battle over who is gonna pay the fucking bar tab.

plastic smiles for plastic faces I guess.

hahah

4 million invested at a rate of 6% = $240,000 in annual revenue before taxes. Considering that is 4 times what i make now, um.... fuck yeah i would retire

Well maybe not fully, i like the recording studio idea... i would hire a kick ass engineer, and the rest would be history

I want some money as I plan to buy a gold hat

Yep.

totally, but REAL friends like that are hard to find. you listed ONE - not 50.

WTF is that... who the fuck care if you are a "SOMEBODY" or a nobody. Man you really need to get a life.

I'd take it and put it into some something else. I have no idea what though.

if you were someone to many people who relied on you for their income you'd understnd this. obviously someone else takes care of you.

I think AMP is on the right track. As others have pointed out, if you don't get caught up in the lifestyle status thing and you don't have some deep seated need to continue playing the liquid asset building game, you could live happily on 4M (or 2M, or even 1M) for the rest of your life.. which is what I would do.

No big houses, fancy cars, expensive bitches, or any of that shit. Invest conservatively, live off the interest, and enjoy yourself.

my grandma has that in the personal care home she's in.... it's very sad. want me to see if I can get you a room there?

Want me to tell you the life story of my all my friends? Geez, thats only 1 example.

None of my other friends are more successful than me, thats why I used him.

but you told Quiet, he is looked at as 'rich' by his friends and that there was seperation among the ranks?

Simply not true, none of my friends act like that no matter how much money they have.

I have a friend in Portland who works at a coffee shop making like 300 a week.

He is no doubt one of my best friends, he diesnt envy me in any way, or care to distance himself from me because I make more money sitting on my ass than he does.

Why? Because he doesnt really give a fuck. He is a musician, all he wants is to play shows.

His tattoo says 'The Road Is Life'

Inspired by Kerouacs 'On The Road.;'

my friends may not be normal, but they are as real as can be, down for whatever.

I noticed you said to Quiet,

'so you dont think anyone you do business with is a friend?'

Maybe if your friendships were not based on business you wouldnt have that hole youre trying so desperately to fill Sleazy. Quiet and many others here no doubt, have friends for a long time, thats the only kind of freidns anyone needs.

Business people are not friends, keep that shit seperate.

Maybe thats why your friends changed on you?

The question was stupid in the first place.

Do what you want to do. Plain and simple.

I would probably die from the longest recorded drug binge in history. Hopefully I'll never make over 20k a year.

bullshit, you envy what he has done with his life and he envy's what you have done. you just don't show it, but it's there.

hahaha

heres a client list for one of my other friends studios where he works.

shit he gets to hang with these fuckers, his job is much cooler than mine, and he doesnt make shit.

http://rumborecorders.com/clients.html

:glugglug

You told Quiet he's in denial, but it's sounding more and more like you're projecting your life onto everyone else.

Just because you and your friendships are based on money, jealousy and the quest to be SOMEBODY and talk to people of equal "status", doesn't mean everyone else's are.

you only proved what I said above, you envy him and he envy's you. it's a stable relationship. If you were a COMPLETE waste of oxygen on welfare and couldn't hold a job or do anything right do you think he's still want to hang with you - no - he wouldn't envy that and thus he wouldn't want to be your friend.

Simply not true Sleazy.

I wont argue how I feel with you.

But just so you know, heres the definition of envy.

'A feeling of discontent and resentment aroused by and in conjunction with desire for the possessions or qualities of another.'

I feel no discontent or resentment, in fact I miss my boy, I havent seen him in 2 years.

Was a different friend Sleazy.

get a clue retard.

I feel no resentment.

You barely speak English correctly I doubt you know the definiton of most of the words you use.

Go back to college Sleazy, maybe you can meet some new friends since yours left you.

most EVERYONE's relationships are based on getting something out of it - not necessarily money though. Fact of life. If you can't bring anything to the table then it's not a fair relationship and it won't last.

why post all the high powered bands he gets to work with then. You're JUSTIFYING him. tell me about the welfare bum that's your best buddy and then you got an arguement....

Are you talking about business relationships or personal relationships? It sounds like you are confused man.

You were asking for more examples of friends.

I simply posted about another friend of mine.

hes on his way here,.

im gonna go get some beer and drugs, be back Sleazy.

See the fact is, I have friends to hang with.

Youll still be posting here while I am out having fun.

hahaha

later.

BOTH

What does friendship being a two way street have to do with your previous statement that all friends are envious of each other and crave each other's lives?

I'm not the slightest bit envious of any of my friends, nor do I particularly want their jobs, houses, girlfriends or money.

I'm starting to feel bad for you. Your whole life is starting to sound like it's based on selecting friends who make equal or more money so you can spend your time drooling over them and their possessions while at the same time furthering your goal to be SOMEBODY.

i have lots of friends who have been welfare cases, been pretty low myself.... a real friend is a real friend through thick and thin.

there's a handful of couches out there with my name on them should i ever need them

everyone envy's something about someone else if they're friends. It needs to be mutual though and not necessairly money - but something. looks, a talent, comic ability, friends of that friend, etc... could be anything. it's true of ALL relationships. just accept it.

once again there's something - loyality. admiration of loyality is a basis of friendship.

LOL

You're projecting.

think about it - it will come to you eventually. I know you're a bit slow at these things but I have faith you'll eventually get it.

True to the extent that I expect my friends to provide me with a few laughs, a couch to sleep on if I'm too drunk, good conversation and company.

Nah, I just think that if your not happy when you've made enough money to have a roof over your head, a decent car, and financial security, you won't be happy with a really big roof over your head, a really nice car, and financial security. I've been dirt poor and reasonably comfortable at different times in my life, and I know that holds true for me.

Its just a question of temperament and priorities. Some people need to play the lifestyle/money game, some people don't. Some people are happy giving away all their money, and going to live in a monastery. Neither one is necessarily better than the other. I know a few people who've done the latter, and society benefits from their experience just as it does from people who prefer doing the former.

I agree with Fatpad, you seem to be projecting your own personality and its needs onto everyone else. Most of your posts in this thread are some variation of: "if you don't want to have what I want to have, you can't be happy" To turn it around, it would be like quiet calling you are a moron because you don't love snowboarding. You don't have to think about it too long to see how utterly ridiculous that attitude is.

its called trust.... if i can't trust a person i do not associate with them.

The only thing I admire a person for is being true to themself, and doing what makes THEM happy. I find that people who cannot accomplish this often have a hard time keeping close friends.

Real happiness, not something based on what others think of you.

looks like someone has an obsession with trying to prove me wrong.... well, at least you have a hobby that makes you happy.

I'd retire permanently on one million US.

I wouldn't even have to think about it.

i'd slap 3 million on the Nasdaq, buy a kick ass house and car and travel for a year. Then I'd get back to work. I'd want 20 before retiring officially.

Sweet bro.

:eek7

Oh yeah, you got me.

I would partially retire. I know I would pay off my parents property, and send my grandparents on a nice trip. They did alot for me while I grew up so that is the least I could do and one of the first things I would do.

I then would pretty much stop the day to day work in this biz. I have no desire to be a "somebody" and I am not addicted to working my ass off all my life. There is a time to just enjoy life and not deal with the downsides of this industry.

I do love photography and do not consider it work. So I am not sure I could retire from that. If it is something that you would pay someone else so you could do it, it is not something you can easily stop, and that is how I feel about photography.

Now I am curious what Quiet means when he said teaching.
:Graucho Hopefully he can elaborate, maybe he is thinking of a online business class for the rest of us hopefulls. :winkwink: Ok I can dream.

I must want you to be my friend, because right now, I'm envious of your ability to make me laugh.

Later. :)

OMG - Real Estate? Better know what the heck you're doing.
And know how to buy the cycles proplerly.

You can lose money in real estate big time. Its not as easy as everyone makes it out to be.

I have one friend here in Florida who thought she was so hot, bought over 25 properties in 1 year, going around bragging about being a big property owner and crap and now the market is soft as hell here and she is having a hard time meeting her acquisition financing overhead and will probably lose the whole shabang unless a miracle happens.

but what would I get in return? Stupidity?