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SleazyDream 02-04-2003 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by Bobo


After I got into this biz and started making money, the amount of friends I had did change substantially. Only the closest stayed friends. Most fell by the wayside just because our aspirations became so different.

I chasing the buck and making good on it. Them, mostly fuckups probably on welfare now or dead.

Things certainly do change.

or they're worse than dead in a govn't job somewhere....... I agree with you totally. I kept a few close friends from high school and different points in my life - most fall away though as one moves on.

Amputate Your Head 02-04-2003 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


i need to be somebody to MYSELF - not to others- when have you ever scene me give a crap about others?????

but what is it that allows you to be somebody in your mind? That's the question. I'm already somebody. I always have been. That's enough for me.

So is it the knowledge that some other people percieve you as being somebody that creates this for you? If you didn;t think you were somebody before, how do you define the point at which you become somebody? Dollar amount? Certain amount of other people saying it out loud?

Gary 02-04-2003 02:08 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


i need to be somebody to MYSELF - not to others- when have you ever scene me give a crap about others?????

All the time. You go out of your way to impress other tgp guys. You crave their respect. I agree with some of what you've said, but not everyone's goal will be similar to yours.

Jakke PNG 02-04-2003 02:08 PM

KRL points it out well..
pick your girl carefully.
How's your asian gal? Dumped already?
I have a memory like an elephant.

Bobo 02-04-2003 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by Martin
Amp's got the right idea but, I would travel the world..
BINGO! What else is there to life??? Travel, see the world. Most people will never see most of it, but with money you have that chance. And if you've got a girl with you, dude, that's what life is all about. It doesn't get any better than that.

SleazyDream 02-04-2003 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


but what is it that allows you to be somebody in your mind? That's the question. I'm already somebody. I always have been. That's enough for me.

So is it the knowledge that some other people percieve you as being somebody that creates this for you? If you didn;t think you were somebody before, how do you define the point at which you become somebody? Dollar amount? Certain amount of other people saying it out loud?

still don't think I'm a somebody - always striving for it though....

SleazyDream 02-04-2003 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by Gary


All the time. You go out of your way to impress other tgp guys. You crave their respect. I agree with some of what you've said, but not everyone's goal will be similar to yours.

actually I throw the TGP parties not to impress but to give something back to the people who have given soo much to me, and to tease the fuck outa the loosers on GFY.... I get off on that.

Fletch XXX 02-04-2003 02:14 PM

'Cool is eternal but its always dated.'

'Pride is a state invoked for the lack of position.'

http://www.punkbands.com/lyrics/band...onthekil.htm#1

'pride no longer has definition everybody wears it, it always fits a state invoked for the lack of position strength is the bait that keeps us so busy if it's perforated, then i tear it to bits all sense lost in the frenzy

they should never... ...touch the ground

irony is the refuge of the educated always complaining but they never quit cool's eternal, but it always dated they should never... ...touch the ground

it's not worth, it's the investment that keeps us tied up in all these strings we draw lines and stand behind them that's why flags are such ugly things

that they should never... ...touch the ground'

read those slowly.

Gary 02-04-2003 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


actually I throw the TGP parties not to impress but to give something back to the people who have given soo much to me, and to tease the fuck outa the loosers on GFY.... I get off on that.

Perhaps, but some might say that you work hard to create a barrier between "elite" and "non-elite" and then flaunt it to the "non-elite". Now, theres nothing wrong with that, but some might think that quiet is far more mentally stable than you. hehehe

With that said, we all do stuff to make ourselves happy. Quiet does his shit, you do yours and me, im just miserable. *sigh*

Jakke PNG 02-04-2003 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by Gary

With that said, we all do stuff to make ourselves happy.

I think I'm gonna make myself happy now.:Graucho

angelsofporn 02-04-2003 02:17 PM

california realestate is a good place to be..hire a managment company to rent them and deal with everything..in ten years would be in a good place with money making money for you..not much to deal with except what you would really like to spending your time on..of course diversify some of it into fairly conservative investments...say anything yeailding dididends which if Bushe's new tax plan goes through will be tax free

Morgan 02-04-2003 02:18 PM

I would invest it all in pork bellies!

EscortBiz 02-04-2003 02:18 PM

I would not retire if I had $50 million cash in the bank, I enjoy working better then going on vacation

Amputate Your Head 02-04-2003 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


still don't think I'm a somebody - always striving for it though....

that's too bad bro.... I mean it... that's really too bad. Because it doesn't matter. Is Donald Trump somebody? Depends on whether or not you decide to give him that status. If I don't give a fuck about him, then that reduces his status back to nobody. Am I somebody in Donald Trump's mind? Most would say no. It's really his decision to either assign somebody status to me or not isn't it? So if Don Trump or Bill Gates considers me a nobody.... that means I am? If I consider them nobodies, does that mean they are? Take away their billions and how are they any MORE of a somebody than anyone else? Transfer their billions to my account and that suddenly makes me somebody?

It makes me no different than I was yesterday. Except with alot more money. You can't buy respect. Do I respect those guys? Hell no. Fuck them. They don't impact me. I've never met either one. And I couldn't care less if they go broke or die tomorrow. So.... are they still somebody?

There is no status except that which we allow. Whether it's in the eyes of others or for yourself. For every person that may end up thinking you as a somebody in the future, there are alot more people who simply don't care.

Status is an illusion bro. Chasing it your whole life is an incredible waste of time.

SleazyDream 02-04-2003 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by Gary


Perhaps, but some might say that you work hard to create a barrier between "elite" and "non-elite" and then flaunt it to the "non-elite". Now, theres nothing wrong with that, but some might think that quiet is far more mentally stable than you. hehehe

With that said, we all do stuff to make ourselves happy. Quiet does his shit, you do yours and me, im just miserable. *sigh*

yeah, and quiet posting about his money all the time doesn't help to create a barrier between him and the poor people of this board... wake up and smell the goat gary. We BOTH love to rub it in the faces of the people of GFY - in different ways but we BOTH do it, and BOTH do it a LOT.

FlyingIguana 02-04-2003 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
would you retire (at least temporarily)?
nope. i would most likely walk away from porn and concentrate on the lvl 2 cfa exam, then maybe go on vacation next summer for a couple months to relax before looking for work

chupacabra 02-04-2003 02:20 PM

i would take that 4m, move back to Tokyo for a short sabbatical... i'd live comfotably in Tokyo for about 1.5 years, and then since the money would be all but gone, i'd get back to work spamming IM and ICQ accounts..!

SleazyDream 02-04-2003 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


that's too bad bro.... I mean it... that's really too bad. Because it doesn't matter. Is Donald Trump somebody? Depends on whether or not you decide to give him that status. If I don't give a fuck about him, then that reduces his status back to nobody. Am I somebody in Donald Trump's mind? Most would say no. It's really his decision to either assign somebody status to me or not isn't it? So if Don Trump or Bill Gates considers me a nobody.... that means I am? If I consider them nobodies, does that mean they are? Take away their billions and how are they any MORE of a somebody than anyone else? Transfer their billions to my account and that suddenly makes me somebody?

It makes me no different than I was yesterday. Except with alot more money. You can't buy respect. Do I respect those guys? Hell no. Fuck them. They don't impact me. I've never met either one. And I couldn't care less if they go broke or die tomorrow. So.... are they still somebody?

There is no status except that which we allow. Whether it's in the eyes of others or for yourself. For every person that may end up thinking you as a somebody in the future, there are alot more people who simply don't care.

Status is an illusion bro. Chasing it your whole life is an incredible waste of time.

the ONLY illusion that maters to me though is the one in my own mind. That's the only one I care about. What you or anyone else thinks of me I don't give a fuck about.

Gary 02-04-2003 02:21 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


yeah, and quiet posting about his money all the time doesn't help to create a barrier between him and the poor people of this board... wake up and smell the goat gary. We BOTH love to rub it in the faces of the people of GFY - in different ways but we BOTH do it, and BOTH do it a LOT.

True, but he hasn't posted his tax returns YET.

Again, whatever makes you happy. 4 million couldnt make me happy. 4 Billion perhps, cause then i could buy friends, respect, power, etc...

SleazyDream 02-04-2003 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by Gary


True, but he hasn't posted his tax returns YET.

Again, whatever makes you happy. 4 million couldnt make me happy. 4 Billion perhps, cause then i could buy friends, respect, power, etc...

4 million could make me happy - so could 1 million, so could finding a single dollar on the street. happyness is what one makes of it.

Fletch XXX 02-04-2003 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream

What you or anyone else thinks of me I don't give a fuck about.

If that were true youd need not say it.

SleazyDream 02-04-2003 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX


If that were true youd need not say it.

IT IS TRUE - I like getting people going though.

Spunky 02-04-2003 02:26 PM

Its $1.49 Cheeseburger day at Mcdonalds...That makes me happy

Amputate Your Head 02-04-2003 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


the ONLY illusion that maters to me though is the one in my own mind. That's the only one I care about. What you or anyone else thinks of me I don't give a fuck about.

I disagree with this only because part of fulfilling the illusion of status for yourself hinges on others feeding it. You said you still didn't consider yourself a somebody, and I think you won't realize this in your mind until you have the voices of many that share it. Therefore you do care. Not only do you care.... you require it.

Amputate Your Head 02-04-2003 02:28 PM

but I could be wrong. :)

SleazyDream 02-04-2003 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

I disagree with this only because part of fulfilling the illusion of status for yourself hinges on others feeding it. You said you still didn't consider yourself a somebody, and I think you won't realize this in your mind until you have the voices of many that share it. Therefore you do care. Not only do you care.... you require it.

you sound like a kid pointing a finger at me yelling 'you care you care'

Amputate Your Head 02-04-2003 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


you sound like a kid pointing a finger at me yelling 'you care you care'

well... that's what I am! :glugglug

Bobo 02-04-2003 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


yeah, and quiet posting about his money all the time doesn't help to create a barrier between him and the poor people of this board... wake up and smell the goat gary. We BOTH love to rub it in the faces of the people of GFY - in different ways but we BOTH do it, and BOTH do it a LOT.

This is true. Different tactics, same outcome.

Fletch XXX 02-04-2003 02:34 PM

I got a friend who drinks BUSCH beer but he owns a lexus. 3.99 a 6 pack but drives a car worth more than the house I was born in.

he bought a bar in new orleans at 24 with a 19k loan.

he is younger than me, and he still calls me all the time, we have been friends since we were 15. he is much more successful than me. a professional and world travelled videographer, trvelles Alaska and Africa filming wildlife for a year... owns his own AVID system 40k and has long hippy hair, full beardm and totally wants to live out in the wilderness and smoke pot and drink whiskey like a survivlist nature boy hippy.

but he lives just off Bourbon street in new orleans in a very old aweseome apartment overlooking bouron street.

his bar rules. i picked out most of the shit on the jukebox.

me and all my friends drink free there, eat free. whatever, its on the house.

anyone in my family can eat and drink for free.

why? When his dad moved from new orleans I let him live at my grandmothers house to finish off the senior year of highschool.

real friends dont change or turn their back on you no matter how much money is involved.

real friends dont fucking quit hanging because of money.

this 'rich' status is bullshit, me and my boys only battle over who is gonna pay the fucking bar tab.

plastic smiles for plastic faces I guess.

hahah

nazgul 02-04-2003 02:35 PM

4 million invested at a rate of 6% = $240,000 in annual revenue before taxes. Considering that is 4 times what i make now, um.... fuck yeah i would retire

Well maybe not fully, i like the recording studio idea... i would hire a kick ass engineer, and the rest would be history

BJ 02-04-2003 02:36 PM

I want some money as I plan to buy a gold hat

FATPad 02-04-2003 02:38 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

real friends dont change or turn their back on you no matter how much money is involved.

real friends dont fucking quit hanging because of money.


Yep.

SleazyDream 02-04-2003 02:42 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
I got a friend who drinks BUSCH beer but he owns a lexus. 3.99 a 6 pack but drives a car worth more than the house I was born in.

he bought a bar in new orleans at 24 with a 19k loan.

he is younger than me, and he still calls me all the time, we have been friends since we were 15. he is much more successful than me. a professional and world travelled videographer, trvelles Alaska and Africa filming wildlife for a year... owns his own AVID system 40k and has long hippy hair, full beardm and totally wants to live out in the wilderness and smoke pot and drink whiskey like a survivlist nature boy hippy.

but he lives just off Bourbon street in new orleans in a very old aweseome apartment overlooking bouron street.

his bar rules. i picked out most of the shit on the jukebox.

me and all my friends drink free there, eat free. whatever, its on the house.

anyone in my family can eat and drink for free.

why? When his dad moved from new orleans I let him live at my grandmothers house to finish off the senior year of highschool.

real friends dont change or turn their back on you no matter how much money is involved.

real friends dont fucking quit hanging because of money.

this 'rich' status is bullshit, me and my boys only battle over who is gonna pay the fucking bar tab.

plastic smiles for plastic faces I guess.

hahah

totally, but REAL friends like that are hard to find. you listed ONE - not 50.

the indigo 02-04-2003 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
if you retire you go from being a SOMEBODY in your business to SUDDENLY being a nobody.

reduce the amount of work you do - NEVER retire.

WTF is that... who the fuck care if you are a "SOMEBODY" or a nobody. Man you really need to get a life.

candyflip 02-04-2003 02:46 PM

I'd take it and put it into some something else. I have no idea what though.

SleazyDream 02-04-2003 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by the indigo


WTF is that... who the fuck care if you are a "SOMEBODY" or a nobody. Man you really need to get a life.

if you were someone to many people who relied on you for their income you'd understnd this. obviously someone else takes care of you.

Gutterboy 02-04-2003 02:48 PM

I think AMP is on the right track. As others have pointed out, if you don't get caught up in the lifestyle status thing and you don't have some deep seated need to continue playing the liquid asset building game, you could live happily on 4M (or 2M, or even 1M) for the rest of your life.. which is what I would do.

No big houses, fancy cars, expensive bitches, or any of that shit. Invest conservatively, live off the interest, and enjoy yourself.

SleazyDream 02-04-2003 02:49 PM

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Originally posted by Gutterboy
I think AMP is on the right track. As others have pointed out, if you don't get caught up in the lifestyle status thing and you don't have some deep seated need to continue playing the liquid asset building game, you could live happily on 4M (or 2M, or even 1M) for the rest of your life.. which is what I would do.

No big houses, fancy cars, expensive bitches, or any of that shit. Invest conservatively, live off the interest, and enjoy yourself.

my grandma has that in the personal care home she's in.... it's very sad. want me to see if I can get you a room there?

Fletch XXX 02-04-2003 02:50 PM

Want me to tell you the life story of my all my friends? Geez, thats only 1 example.

None of my other friends are more successful than me, thats why I used him.

but you told Quiet, he is looked at as 'rich' by his friends and that there was seperation among the ranks?

Simply not true, none of my friends act like that no matter how much money they have.

I have a friend in Portland who works at a coffee shop making like 300 a week.

He is no doubt one of my best friends, he diesnt envy me in any way, or care to distance himself from me because I make more money sitting on my ass than he does.

Why? Because he doesnt really give a fuck. He is a musician, all he wants is to play shows.

His tattoo says 'The Road Is Life'

Inspired by Kerouacs 'On The Road.;'

my friends may not be normal, but they are as real as can be, down for whatever.

I noticed you said to Quiet,

'so you dont think anyone you do business with is a friend?'

Maybe if your friendships were not based on business you wouldnt have that hole youre trying so desperately to fill Sleazy. Quiet and many others here no doubt, have friends for a long time, thats the only kind of freidns anyone needs.

Business people are not friends, keep that shit seperate.

Maybe thats why your friends changed on you?

the indigo 02-04-2003 02:51 PM

The question was stupid in the first place.

Do what you want to do. Plain and simple.


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