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mafia_man 12-10-2011 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by nikki99 (Post 18621134)
I love thailand and the ladyboys :thumbsup

I love turtles.

Ayla_SquareTurtle 12-11-2011 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Hentaikid (Post 18615574)
Fun fact, if the first thing you think when you read about something like this is not"It's an injustice" but instead some kind of justification for the way things are, you might be an authoritarian follower

:thumbsup

EukerVoorn 12-11-2011 01:54 AM

Everybody in Thailand loving the royals is bullshit, 50% love them and the other 50% hate them. That's why they have these political clashes and street riots and power changes all the time. Each side is accusing the other side of corruption. And I agree with the "authoritarian follower" statement. The same people who approve this Thailand verdict whine about .xxx domains potentially leading to authoritarian control of the online porn biz.

If we don't tolerate people going to jail for something as minor as translating and publishing a book in our own country we shouldn't approve it happening in other countries.


Roald 12-11-2011 02:11 AM

their country, their law. :2 cents:

lagcam 12-11-2011 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by EukerVoorn (Post 18621678)
Everybody in Thailand loving the royals is bullshit, 50% love them and the other 50% hate them. That's why they have these political clashes and street riots and power changes all the time. Each side is accusing the other side of corruption. And I agree with the "authoritarian follower" statement. The same people who approve this Thailand verdict whine about .xxx domains potentially leading to authoritarian control of the online porn biz.

If we don't tolerate people going to jail for something as minor as translating and publishing a book in our own country we shouldn't approve it happening in other countries.


You seriously don't understand the difference between Thai politics and Thais loving their King?

I know your business involves shit, but your posts shouldn't always be so full of it.

jonnybgood 12-11-2011 03:34 AM

of course all thais love the king, because if they didnt they would also get jail sentences, and if the newpapers reported it they would too

DWB 12-11-2011 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AAB (Post 18615621)
Thailand is a xenophobic and lawless country. Rich douche kid who sliced Laotian girl in half got away withou any punishment because his daddy was rich. I would post the link to full story with pictures, but GFY twinkies would get offended. Don't expect any rights in a country known for no rule of law.

Yes, many (if not most) of them are incredibly xenophobic.

I wouldn't say it's lawless. Just different laws. You get away with things you shouldn't and get fucked up for things you shouldn't.

Cambodia was lawless 10-15 years ago. When you can buy hand grenades at the local market, it's lawless. But that is part of the attraction to the place.


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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18615632)
freedom of speech doesn't apply in Thailand i guess...perhaps the royal family has good cause for not letting anyone speak out about them...it isn't my battle, but this is obviously not right.

The King himself has said he is not above being criticized, however, this law is often abused and used as a political weapon. Many who break this law do get a royal pardon by the King himself, as his gives them every year for his birthday.

But in terms of real freedom of speech, there is none in Thailand. Libel laws are incredibly strict here and you can get sued just for writing a bad review about a restaurant, even if every word of what you say is true. All the media outlets have lawyers on staff to vet every story they release, and many of them still get sued often.


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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18615641)
It is interesting, that when someone breaks a law in the US that we think is crazy, everyone, including Europeans, have no problem saying that it's a terrible law. Somehow, when someone is punished by a terrible law in Thailand, that's ok, and we shouldn't criticize it.... Instead we should "respect their culture".

By that logic, EU citizens and Canadians on this board shouldn't criticize US laws that they find offensive.... They should "respect US culture".

Yea, it's always "respect their culture" but in reality, I don't even think most of the Thais know anything about their true culture. It's usually about greed, power, money, and superstition. Just like anywhere else in the world. Culture has little to do with it. Only foreigners say such things.


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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18615644)
When in Rome .......

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Doesn't apply. Thais can do pretty much anything, but we can't. And when something goes wrong, it's our fault. Goes back to them being xenophobic and uneducated.



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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 18615693)
i asked a girl about that cause i was curious... they really love him, not just because they are told so. and they do not love all of them, just this one and the fifth

Bah. Most of them don't have a clue about anything he has done other than he has "helped the people" before. Ask any Thai 10 specific things he has done, not one will be able to tell you off the top of their head. They love their king and believe in Buddha for the same reasons westerners believe in Jesus and fear God. It's handed down from parents to kids and force fed to them all their lives.

That said, he has done some really amazing things for Thailand and is worthy of their respect. I'm just stating that most Thais don't know why they should respect/love him, other than that's all they know to do. Just as most can not tell you what Buddhist principles are, however they spend their lives as Buddhists.


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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18617754)
Yeah i heard a story about a tourist who got into a fight with a taxidriver and ripped a money bill in 2 with the kings head on it. Also went to jail apparently.

Never heard that one but I believe it. Had the taxi driver ripped it in two, nothing would have probably come of it.

Having said all of that, I still choose this twisted place over the USA right now. :pimp As bad as it may sound when you read some of the bad things, the good FAR outweigh the bad.

dannyz-zbuckz 12-11-2011 06:19 AM

Great post DWB you are correct on so many levels.

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I wouldn't say it's lawless. Just different laws. You get away with things you shouldn't and get fucked up for things you shouldn't.
Yes. A crisp 100 baht note (about $3 US) can get you out of most traffic violations that would cost you about 50 times more money plus court and traffic school in the US. Although I guess that can explain the crazy drivers. Nothing like taxi drives with a driver after he's been hitting the yaba!


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But in terms of real freedom of speech, there is none in Thailand. Libel laws are incredibly strict here and you can get sued just for writing a bad review about a restaurant, even if every word of what you say is true. All the media outlets have lawyers on staff to vet every story they release, and many of them still get sued often.
I've lived in Thailand for almost 10 years but haven't heard of that, but then can't say I'm really surprised.

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Having said all of that, I still choose this twisted place over the USA right now. As bad as it may sound when you read some of the bad things, the good FAR outweigh the bad.
Agreed.

AAB 12-11-2011 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18621765)
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Having said all of that, I still choose this twisted place over the USA right now. :pimp As bad as it may sound when you read some of the bad things, the good FAR outweigh the bad.

That sounds like famous last words a foreigner would say before being thrown out of a high rise with hands tied behind his back and plastic bag over his head - an act which Thai police would rule a suicide. More foreigners nationals get murdered in Thailand than in the rest of world combined. Only 0.4% of all British citizens traveling abroad travel to Thailand, but 60% of all British citizens murdered abroad are murdered in Thailand. It's no different for other countries.

EukerVoorn 12-11-2011 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by lagcam (Post 18621717)
You seriously don't understand the difference between Thai politics and Thais loving their King?

I know your business involves shit, but your posts shouldn't always be so full of it.

Yeah I knew something wasn't right when I was typing my post but I still felt like posting it so it looks I'm know stuff :1orglaugh

But you're right. :winkwink:

dannyz-zbuckz 12-11-2011 09:34 AM

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More foreigners nationals get murdered in Thailand than in the rest of world combined. Only 0.4% of all British citizens traveling abroad travel to Thailand, but 60% of all British citizens murdered abroad are murdered in Thailand. It's no different for other countries.
Where did you get this information from? Well I can only say Thailand does tend to bring in some of the lowest life sex tourists and fat/old bastards from other countries. Maybe they deserved what they got. As long as you respect the king, respect Buddha, and don't go out of your way to be an asshole to people then you shouldn't have any problems here. On the contrary I know many here that live an extremely comfortable lifestyle on incomes where they'd barely be scraping by in the west.

crash_jackson 12-11-2011 09:53 AM

they will probably whip him until he die? and a little bit after...


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