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Tempest 12-20-2011 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18642817)
I read it. they're wrong.
did you read MY link?

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks

over 18,000 deadly attacks since 9/11/2001 almost none of the victims were American.

So much for their theory.

In 2010, 14,748 american christians, jews, muslims, kids etc. were killed in the US itself by american "scum", many of which probably call themselves christians... I love it when people like you post lists like that and make some broad statement that is meaningless and misleading at best without any real context.

StickyGreen 12-20-2011 03:38 PM

12clicks is a great example of what has happened to the mindset of many Americans due to propaganda: they have been taught to hate Muslims.

bronco67 12-20-2011 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18642481)

and this proves what? That someone can slow down and zoom into a video?

uno 12-20-2011 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 18641376)
Doesn't really matter who wrote it, it's the truth. You wouldn't know though... you didn't even read it because you have the attention span of a 12 year-old like most people. :thumbsup

tldr;

but generally I completely agree with Ron Paul's stance on this specific issue. It's obviously blowback and its obvious they don't hate our freedom. (i'm assuming the thing you posted is about that.) Bin Laden has said himself that if he hated freedom he would have attacked Sweden.

12clicks 12-20-2011 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 18642910)
That is so ignorant I'm not even going to address it...

No, YOU'RE so ignorant you CAN'T address it.
Your idiot argument that it's OUR fault is exposed by the 18,000 acts of terror since 9/11 committed by Muslim scum NOT directed at Americans.

uno 12-20-2011 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 18642090)
I don't know why anyone wouldn't give credibility to extremists reasons for wanting to destroy America. That doesn't mean I don't love America -- but I realize that everyone has their own causes- and in their minds, the US is evil.

That doesn't mean we should let them kill us first.

The other night I was talking to one of my brother-in-law's best friends. He repeatedly brought up the bullshit "we have to fight them over there so they don't attack us over here." line. I told him it took 19 guys with $1 box cutters and a big number of them are college educated.

Some goat herder in afghanistan is going to have a much harder time getting a green card or visa to enter the country. I talked to my sister about it the next day and she basically said they have to believe that to carry out their mission. They have to think god is on their side and there is a point to it all.

As far as I'm concerned, we got al qaeda and killed bin laden. We should pull out and let that country devolve further into the clusterfuck its eventually going to be anyway. The only reason we have to stay in afghan now is to help the gov't get the resources out of their semirecently discovered natural resources that could be worth trillions. That would give the gov't stability.

My sister's husband died earlier this year in afghanistan in a war that should have been more or less 'won' almost a decade ago. Bush fucked that up and put our resources in Iraq. That was a wrong war that never should have happened.

12clicks 12-20-2011 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 18642944)
In 2010, 14,748 american christians, jews, muslims, kids etc. were killed in the US itself by american "scum",

Most of whom were jailed, none of which were supported monetarily by other Americans or cheered by other Americans.
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Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 18642944)
I love it when people like you post lists like that and make some broad statement that is meaningless and misleading at best without any real context.

I love it when unintelligent trolls like yourself dismiss 18,000 deaths by terrorism all committed by one religion against all others.
I'm sorry that the context was over your head and the concept too broad for your small mind to understand.:thumbsup

12clicks 12-20-2011 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 18642959)
12clicks is a great example of what has happened to the mindset of many Americans due to propaganda: they have been taught to hate Muslims.

Stickygreen is a great example of what has happened to the mindset of many Americans due to propaganda: they have been taught to ignore facts that don't agree with their fantasy world view.
Similar to what the trash believe of the 1%

uno 12-20-2011 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18642260)
It pretty hard to intervene in something without choosing a side;
therefore, when we intervene and choose a side we have also chosen the enemy.

We blame the monster for what he did at the end of the movie Frankenstein, but
shouldn't we also consider blaming Dr. Frankenstein for creating the monster?

Stop creating monsters because they will rise to kill your ass.

Um, I'm picking nits again, but the monster was and was supposed to be the sympathetic character of the movie.

uno 12-20-2011 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by joshgirls (Post 18642269)
right. you also think the unabomber & tim mcveigh are blameless as well. it was the governments fault there too. because they said so.

:1orglaugh

murderers are just murderers pal. it doesnt matter what excuse they use. I guess OJ simpson had a valid reason to cut his wifes throat too?

One of my very good friends in high school's father was murdered by the unibomber.

uno 12-20-2011 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18642300)
Seriously, where the hell do you get the idea that it's near impossible to fly a plane into a big ass tower? Wtf? Where do you people find this stuff? And don't you have any common sense whatsoever?

yeah, no one ever accidentally flew into the empire state building either. :upsidedow /sarcasm

Dcat 12-20-2011 07:14 PM

Psychologists Explain 911 Denial


uno 12-20-2011 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18642319)
Two planes hit two separate buildings at different times...I mean CMON thats absolutely absurd to think a couple of arabs who couldn't even fly and were border line retarded could do that. The plane was over Michigan or some state. So what did they do? Type in "Destination: World Trade Center Tower 1" ?? Impossible

Have you even read anything about 9/11 aside from conspiracy sites? Just about everything you've said is 100% wrong and easily debunked/looked up. Some of these dudes were college educated in engineering in THE WEST. Germany in particular in the case of Attah.

uno 12-20-2011 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18642328)
So did they coordinate with each other and say "oh I'll hit tower 1 and make sure you hit tower 2 an hour later"?

If these buildings were targeted, then these guys were the greatest pilots in the history of mankind

Yeah and Sully totally wasn't a good enough pilot to land in the hudson river.

buzzard 12-20-2011 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18643290)
Most of whom were jailed, none of which were supported monetarily by other Americans or cheered by other Americans.

I love it when unintelligent trolls like yourself dismiss 18,000 deaths by terrorism all committed by one religion against all others.
I'm sorry that the context was over your head and the concept too broad for your small mind to understand.:thumbsup

A perfect globalist minion. They like you. You're in!

uno 12-20-2011 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18642409)
?

Personally, I don't believe anything in history books

shocker.

uno 12-20-2011 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18642425)
mr. paul's story might have a ring of truth if not for the muslim scum killing non-muslims from all countries all over the world.
he's a short list, not too many of which involve Americans.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Yeah totally. Christians also haven't done the same thing for about 2000 years.

uno 12-20-2011 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18642481)

I see your crackpot video and raise you a


12clicks 12-20-2011 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzard (Post 18643312)
A perfect globalist minion. They like you. You're in!

You'll go much further in life if you take off the tin foil

uno 12-20-2011 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18643296)
Stickygreen is a great example of what has happened to the mindset of many Americans due to propaganda: they have been taught to ignore facts that don't agree with their fantasy world view.
Similar to what the trash believe of the 1%

Are you accusing him of watching Fox News?

12clicks 12-20-2011 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by uno (Post 18643317)
Yeah totally. Christians also haven't done the same thing for about 2000 years.

This is often the empty argument of those who don't want to admit to what's going on TODAY.

12clicks 12-20-2011 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by uno (Post 18643328)
Are you accusing him of watching Fox News?

Goodnight UNO, hope your job is going well.

papill0n 12-20-2011 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18643259)
No, YOU'RE so ignorant you CAN'T address it.
Your idiot argument that it's OUR fault is exposed by the 18,000 acts of terror since 9/11 committed by Muslim scum NOT directed at Americans.

you are a fucking disgrace to humanity

even if their had been 18,000 acts of terrorism by muslims what sort of idiot would ascribe such actions to an entire group of people

you want the link to the story about US soldiers killing women and children ? all americans are scum ? child killers ?

see where we are going here dopey ?

uno 12-20-2011 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18643345)
This is often the empty argument of those who don't want to admit to what's going on TODAY.

I think you missed my point, which is not surprising.

uno 12-20-2011 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18643350)
Goodnight UNO, hope your job is going well.

Thank you for your passive aggressive reply. That was. indeed, an awesome backhanded compliment response.

I'm still not going to take you to Le Cirque.

buzzard 12-20-2011 08:30 PM


Coup D'etat 12-20-2011 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18642817)
I read it. they're wrong.
did you read MY link?


over 18,000 deadly attacks since 9/11/2001 almost none of the victims were American.

So much for their theory.

LOL @ 18,000 deadly attacks since 9/11/2001. The USA has killed over 150,000 civilians in that period in Iraq and Afghanistan. 150,000 civilians. 150,000 cilivilians.

And that is a low ball number derived from US government document leaks. Most independent body counts are higher. So it is easy for you to generalize a whole religion based on 18,000 attacks, many of which can be marginalized as crime-related, but how will you address the 150,00 dead, innocent people, killed DIRECTLY by the USA.

You don't think the relatives of these innocents thirst for revenge? You don't think that is a motivation for terrorism? Or maybe not, because it wasn't "on purpose." It was an accident, we bombed the wrong people. So it doesn't count????

Do you realize how ridiculous that argument is? It's like you're expecting people to react like "Well, this misguided drone strike killed my mom... But I'm going to let it slide because it wasn't on purpose... it was collateral damage... not America's fault, just part of war."

Is that what you honestly believe???:321GFY

buzzard 12-21-2011 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18643326)
You'll go much further in life if you take off the tin foil

Don't wear tin foil. I let em scan my brain.
Where do you think they come up with the lies they feed you?

12clicks 12-21-2011 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by papill0n (Post 18643373)
you are a fucking disgrace to humanity

even if their had been 18,000 acts of terrorism by muslims what sort of idiot would ascribe such actions to an entire group of people

you want the link to the story about US soldiers killing women and children ? all americans are scum ? child killers ?

see where we are going here dopey ?

goodmorning silly kid. when you come home from flipping burgers, you can reply.
this thread is about the idiot notion that muslims hate is because of our actions. I've pointed out that since 9/11, muslim scum have perpetrated over 18,000 terrorist murders against non-Americans all over the world.
Its a simple argument for even an idiot like you to follow.
here, I'll dumb it down further.
what did all of these non-Americans do to muslims that justified the muslim terrorist acts?

you see, its ok to hate America, most idiots do. Pretending that we brought it upon ourselves means you have to pretend that the non-US victims of those more than 18,000 terrorist attacks also brought it upon themselves.
Once you are forced to stop pretending, you have to admit the truth of the matter. Muslim scum try to kill anyone not them.
I'll await your shift change for your reply.

12clicks 12-21-2011 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by uno (Post 18643378)
I think you missed my point, which is not surprising.

no, I got the childish point you wanted to make.
Its simply not relevant to adult conversation.

Tempest 12-21-2011 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18643290)
Most of whom were jailed, none of which were supported monetarily by other Americans or cheered by other Americans.

I love it when unintelligent trolls like yourself dismiss 18,000 deaths by terrorism all committed by one religion against all others.
I'm sorry that the context was over your head and the concept too broad for your small mind to understand.:thumbsup

Oh lord you're such a moron with your idiotic statements... How many deaths have been caused by the christian religion against others over the centuries... How many americans have supported and cheered the death of so many innocent people in recent history? But then I shouldn't expect real intelligence from you given your past posts on here.

D Ghost 12-21-2011 03:00 PM

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Scott McD 12-21-2011 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by uno (Post 18643321)
I see your crackpot video and raise you a


That vid isn't even as retarded as the other one... :1orglaugh

12clicks 12-21-2011 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 18645080)
Oh lord you're such a moron with your idiotic statements... How many deaths have been caused by the christian religion against others over the centuries... How many americans have supported and cheered the death of so many innocent people in recent history? But then I shouldn't expect real intelligence from you given your past posts on here.

God, I hope you didn't rush home from your dead end job just to spout this nonsense.:1orglaugh

EukerVoorn 12-22-2011 09:02 AM

Great posts Sticky Green. Of course 9/11 didn't happen for no reason. It's just that there were a lot of camera's that made it different to all the horrible things the US and Israel did in the Arab world. Much more people died of US/Israel agression in Lebanon alone, than in New York on 9/11. Doesn't mean that it wasn't a horrible act, but it could have been prevented. Killing Bin Laden isn't going to prevent it from happening again in the future.

Dirty F 12-22-2011 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by uno (Post 18643308)
Have you even read anything about 9/11 aside from conspiracy sites? Just about everything you've said is 100% wrong and easily debunked/looked up. Some of these dudes were college educated in engineering in THE WEST. Germany in particular in the case of Attah.

It's just ridiculous. Basically all of his "facts" are not true. Where do they get this from?
It's even more retarded that you can find the real facts using Google for 30 seconds...
But this guy most likely has been crying this nonsense for 10 years now.

Coup D'etat 12-22-2011 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18645435)
God, I hope you didn't rush home from your dead end job just to spout this nonsense.:1orglaugh

150,000 dead civilians you tool. 150,000 dead innocent civilians (men, women, children) killed directly by US military during the same time frame you discuss, 2001-present. Way to ignore the inconvenient facts. Easy to spout off statistics when they are in favor of your brainwashed ideology, but don't want to address them when they're inconvenient ??:321GFY

12clicks 12-22-2011 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Coup D'etat (Post 18646945)
150,000 dead civilians you tool. 150,000 dead innocent civilians (men, women, children) killed directly by US military during the same time frame you discuss, 2001-present. Way to ignore the inconvenient facts. Easy to spout off statistics when they are in favor of your brainwashed ideology, but don't want to address them when they're inconvenient ??:321GFY

dear nobody from nowhere, Are you talking about the war with iraq that was started by iraq where we defended the muslims in Kuwait? Or are you talking about the war in Afghanistan, started by Afghanistan?
which is it, chump from nowhere?

If my country starts a war and loses, I expect to die. The US should have killed way more of those scum. When you go to war, you kill and you subjugate. THAT is how peace is achieved. Not by trying to figure out why savages from the stone age don't like us.:thumbsup

now run into the other room and tell your mom I noticed you.

Coup D'etat 12-22-2011 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18647012)
dear nobody from nowhere, Are you talking about the war with iraq that was started by iraq where we defended the muslims in Kuwait? Or are you talking about the war in Afghanistan, started by Afghanistan?
which is it, chump from nowhere?

If my country starts a war and loses, I expect to die. The US should have killed way more of those scum. When you go to war, you kill and you subjugate. THAT is how peace is achieved. Not by trying to figure out why savages from the stone age don't like us.:thumbsup

now run into the other room and tell your mom I noticed you.

What war did Iraq start against the USA exactly in 2003? Please explain :1orglaugh

12clicks 12-22-2011 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup D'etat (Post 18647032)
What war did Iraq start against the USA exactly in 2003? Please explain :1orglaugh

oops, couldn't take the truth, could you, little boy?:1orglaugh


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