Can't answer a direct question buddy? What war did Iraq start with the USA in 2003? Because according to you the hundreds of thousands of dead civilians are justified because Iraq started a war with us.

they attacked kuwait. we, as an ally of kuwait, defended them. Iraq signed an unconditional surrender. (you know what an unconditional surrender is, right son?) Iraq did not live up to their unconditional surrender and needed to be attacked again.
you see, if we would have killed more of them the first time, we wouldn't have had to go in a second time. You muslim scum should be happy that only 150k died. In a real war, a mil or so should have been killed.

Where are the weapons of mass destruction fuckhead? Where are the Al Qaeda ties??

This guy '12clicks' is one sick puppy...

You're just mad because he's a cultist of a different stripe.

He would've preferred millions of dead civilians, 150,000 wasn't enough. And then you wonder why they hate us and want retaliation. It's mind-boggling.

He probably can't wait for us to invade some more countries and kill some more Muslims.

He's probably running around in his living room right now chanting "Death to Allah! Death to Middle East!" lol

this thread is chock full of entertainment

off to the mcdonalds thread now for more entertainment

Every action has a reaction. If we expect no retaliation for killing 150,000 civilians, then we're not naive, but delusional. It's truly patriotic to advocate illegal/immoral wars, that result in thousands of our troops dying, and result in further violence against American civilians. That's the American way, according to 12 clicks.

lol, wtf was that bitch Albright thinking?

The more Coups the better I say. :D

She probably wasn't expecting such a fact-based, reality-based, question from the American mainstream media. It is highly unusual to discuss the number of civilian casualties in US media. Thus, her slip-up.

In the words of George Carlin:

"The limits of debate in this country are established before the debate even begins, and everyone else is marginalized and made to be seen either as communist or some sort of disloyal person... a "kook," there's a word, and now it's "conspiracy theorist." They made that something that should not even be entertained for a minute, that powerful people might get together and have a plan. Doesn't happen! You're a kook! You're a conspiracy buff!"

lmao

Being anti-war is generally a pretty radical stance. Also, stating statistics that have been corroborated by all sides involved, is a show of bad taste.

The media can spend 100s of hours discussing the death of Anna Nicole Smith or Casey Anthony's daughter, but not a word on the 10s of thousands of murdered Iraqi children. Not a single mention. It's OK though because we know all people are not created equal. Muslim civilians don't count. Even our constitution says so. :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Bullshit, Iraq didn't start a war in 2003. They were having internal problems and the US decided to go in (without permission of UN) and only made things worse.

The U.S. and no other country has to have permission from the U.N. to engage its military...in addition the U.S. had defacto permission from the UN...because of the way they worded the last resolution before the U.S. engaged its forces. Also the UN never presented a resolution then...or to this day...in condemnation of U.S.forces entering Iraq.

Why doesn't anyone quote the original post and disagree with something or say why it's incorrect? It's like no one will even touch it.

The congress is supposed to officially declare war. That never happened.

Question: "Did congress ever declare war on Iraq and if not is it true that we are not in a war?"

Answer: "No. There are 5 wars in which the United States formally declared war against a foreign nation, namely, the War of 1812, the Mexican-American War, the Spanish-American War, World War I, and World War II.

Using this strict definition of a declaration of war, the United States has not formally declared war with Iraq."

It has some logic to it but certainly is not the "truth...the whole truth and nothing but the truth". Seldom...if ever...is something black or white...but consists of many shades of gray.

Ok, so what is not true, or "gray?"

Conress is the only branch of our government that can declare war...but it does not have to declare war...for our troops to be engaged. Many people do not understand the difference.

I am busy and I do not feel the need nor do I have an interest in doing a detailed critique of the article you posted and in addition I certainly do not hold "the truth...the whole truth and nothing but the truth".

BTW...I like Dr. Scheuer...but anything that he has to say becomes just one man's viewpoint...and I don't always agree with his viewpoint...nor do some of his former colleagues.

When are you going to change your shtick? The whole "everyone that doesn't agree with me works a dead end job, lives at home with mom and I'm their better" is getting really old... but I guess trolls don't change what works for them now do they.

Because most people understand, even if they don't want to admit it, that for the most part it's correct... However, Ron Paul's policy of not running operations etc in other countries is naive... The US did not want to get involved in WW2. It built it's defenses etc but tried to stay out of it. The result? It emboldened the Japanese to strike. All the countries at the time didn't want to intervene with Germany, did pretty much nothing but talk, despite seeing what they were doing. The result? WW2. I'm overly simplifying but the lesson is simple. You can't sit back, isolate yourself and just hope nothing will happen. Yeah it's messy when you get involved in other countries but there is always someone out there that wants to fuck with you and you can't stick your head in the sand. If you're not going to be a world power, then that means you're willing to let some other country take on that mantle and are ready for the consequences of it. Which inevitably leads to war as history has proven time and again.

Then I suggest you get a better job.
You certainly aren't smart enough to work full time in THIS easy business

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Fucking French.
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goodmorning, shitstain. they used chemical weapons on the kurds and I suggest you google "abu abbas iraq" and "abu nidal iraq"

and then look up "Iraq pays families of terrorists"

how many people did we kill in Germany to end WWII?
how many people did we kill in japan to end WWII?


get back to me when you finish high school.

ooooooo.... burn!!!! lol.. you're good for a laugh that's for sure...

Welcome home from your pathetic day job!
You too ate good for a laugh.
A fucking know nothing lemming working a deaf end job, rushing home to post you lemming wisdom, not understanding how childish it sounds to your betters.:thumbsup

lmao, you really think highly of yourself, don't you?

yada yada yada... I hope AVN is paying you plenty to be such a consistent troll. You're boring me.. Got something new?

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I'm not the one racing home from some dead end job so I can pretend to be relevant in a business I'm not really in.
You should spend more time working and less time pretending. :thumbsup

No. I just think very little of your kind

Seriously? That's all you got? Did you even finish high school? I mean if you're sooooo intelligent and so much better than me and everyone else on here, why can't you come up with something better than some high schooler.. Something more nuanced.