Bell curve. Half of the population is retarded no matter how you put it.

Yes it is. Oh you've only got right-wing libertarianism stuck in your noggin.

Libertarianism is so much more than that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

yes everyone should get so high that they are unable to see things right in front of their faces like planes slamming into tall buildings.

You're right, my bad. For whatever reason I was assuming Libertarianism to be the American version of Classic Liberalism, since being Liberal in the US pretty much means being socialist. Now it seems half the libertarians are just as retarded. Boy, did you guys fuck up the terms good!

Well, if you wanna nitpick... More people die WITHOUT drugs than WITH them, legal or illegal. :1orglaugh

Chumpsky is good on some issues, but he is still controlled, and working "within" the system at MIT. I think he has been given a longer leash to criticize the establishment on crimes committed overseas, but is never get too close to issues at home. If and when he does, it is only to keep a lid on it, never allowing that knowledge to turn into action. He acts more as a "gatekeeper" within.

For example his stance on 911. He basically won't touch it, other than to say it couldn't have been a conspiracy because basically people couldn't keep their mouths shut about it if it had been a conspiracy. :1orglaugh Complete nonsense if you understand the Command Hierarchy, and Chain of Command. It only takes a few at the top to make things happen. The others involved are left so in the dark that they couldn't hope to put two-and-two together even if they had a small part in it.

Infinitely better than Chumpsky is none other than Dr. Webster Tarpley. :2 cents:

I'm down with Libertarian Socialism. Not liberalism. Just so we are clear

You go, chief! :)

Water too, you can drown in it!

and CONGRESSMAN and REPUBLICAN candidate ron paul is such an outsider. :1orglaugh

Overdose too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication :)

Shit I dont know. Go ask them. lol

I cant answer that question. You would have to ask them I guess

if you really believe that your iq probably doesn't push 100 in all seriousness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster_Tarpley interesting guy. heh

I see where you're going with this and I disagree. Occam's razor and all that jazz.

if you can't see the difference between a cell of 20 or so religious fanatics and 1000+ government employees you are stupider than i thought. of course you think holograms hit the twin towers so why am i surprised?

To be clear, since some in this thread have no fucking idea what I'm talking about (which proves my point, but so be it):

Libertarianism, in whatever form, does not and will not work. It is extreme and does not allow for moral responsibilities in soceities. To be even clearer:

Ayn Rand was a cunt.

Democratic Socialism is the only form of government that has ever worked, uncorrupted, until it was conquered by right-wing extremists, beginning around 3200 BC, which is, admittedly, a weakness of the form. But I digress....

THIS IS JUST A GAME AND WE HAVE ALL ALREADY LOST.

Sorry for the caps but trying to get through: you people are discussing differant chess moves, differant opening gambits, when it's been 'checkmate' since around 1982. Or 1963. Or...pick a date. The corporations/fascists have won, there's no will in the fat, lazy, ever-increasingly stupid American populace to rise up and STOP IT. So it will continue, and get worse and worse over time. So all this debating about this system or that is just noise and nonsense. In other words, exactly what the powers that be WANT it to be: one giant distraction.

You're welcome.

Can't stand her either. Objectivism is a horrid ideology in my oppinion.

Democratic Socialism is fine by me if kept to a decentralized fashion and not forced apon those who do not wish to participate in it.

well you think no planes hit the towers. what did people see then? balloons?

lay off the dope you can't even remember the shit you post.

so if it was impossible for planes to hit the twin towers, what did people see?

Oh my... :error

100 Libertarian Socialist discussions

Continue the fight by addressing the esteemed Mr. PornoJew's concerns my good man.

Agreed 100%



Only Libertarians need 'grow up". LOL Don't try to argue for selfishness, either, it has no "virtue" as Rand insisted. Most Libertarians are just immature post-adolescents who want to run around "free" to do what they are actually currently doing, just without the paranoia of getting caught.

What Government is telling you which movies to see, BTW? I digress...

But your biggest naivete is reserved for corporations and Governemnt. First and foremost: they are the same thing. Yes Johnny, I'm talking about good old-fashioned Fascism. Look up the definition please.

There is no "free market", markets are ALL manipulated. And, as Chomsky pointed out, corporations "enforce" their positions using state police. So the melding, if you will, is complete.

We, "the People", have no influence over either "side" (Gov't or corporations), which is why I refer to "the game" as being rigged and, essentially, over.

That doesn't even make sense.

If we lived in a truly free society there would be no worrying about "getting caught" for anything other than serious crimes like murder or infringing on other people's rights.

The only reason people are "paranoid about getting caught" for living their lives how they want is because we have tyrannical laws making things illegal that should be up to the individual to decide... such as drug usage.

simplistic and immature thinking. back to the library.

The primary moral reason for opposing government intrusions into our lives: government is force, not reason.

These people love tyranny.

Pretty soon they'll be getting patted-down by TSA agents every time they get into their own car, and they'll love every minute of it.

What people are you talking about? No one in this thread has professed any love for tyranny.

i don't support a career politician and republican (two party) presidential candidate. you do. :2 cents:

Who do you support? Kim Jong Un? lol

Oh, I forgot 12clicks posted in this thread. My Bad.

who doesn't? He's so dreamy ^_^

http://www.ustream.tv/cbsnews

StickyGreen your hero is speaking live on the mainstream media thats ignoring him right now. GO GO GO GO

There. Now that he's gone, What were we talking about again? heh

I get enough Ron Paul news as it is, you don't have to update me with every little thing.

And I went to that link and the audio didn't even work, wtf.

Oh well, not like RP is going to say anything new, I know where he stands.

Aww. bummer.

Oh well. If you're gonna stick around make yourself useful and fetch me a nice cold soda-pop, will ya?

I support the working class right to use force against the force of the corporation or State.

I supported the use of force by the Vietnamese against the French and American Imperialists.

I support a woman using force against a rapist.

I support the right of the poor to use force against the rich. They are poor because force has be used or threaten to keep them poor and exploit them.

no, you're poor because you lack intelligence.

Noam Chomsky is a racist

Do you think the monarchy are intelligent?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh