God gets advice from him dude!

It doesn't matter if it's direct debit or credit card billing. You need banks to process direct debit, and if these banks get aware of what they are actually billing for, they will pull the plug without a doubt.

oh! so its not me getting raped, its some woman?
my bad

Sorry 12clicks, maybe next time :)

Onewhoknows should have a new nick, onewhoassumes.

How the hell do you know what the bank does or doesn't know?

Onewhoguesses perhaps?

They may, but I sure wouldn't promote that. I think promoting fapping to rape is pretty disgusting myself.

I said OK if they don't use Visa or MC. They used to.

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Then all is fine with Webbilling, it's a bank transfer.

I understand and support your stance on free speech. The problem is that freedom stretches to payment companies. They are free to do business with who they choose. And we all need to be over cautious on this. We all got fucked so many times in the past.

I agree with you. That's why we are free to not view it, or work with it, if we don't want to.

And religious nuts who think the stuff that YOU work with/produce is disgusting, are ALSO free to not produce or view your stuff.



Freedom.

Messy, ain't it?



.:)

Well, a statement from a Webbilling rep, regarding if their banks know about the content they process for and they are fine with it, would be nice.

oh who gives a fuck? different countries and cultures have different ideas on what constitutes porn. it's called moral relativism and it does exist.

rape sites fail to deliver. Stupid to ban them, like banning fake weed.

:2 cents:

Surveys have shown 9 out of 10 enjoy gang rape.

The law in the US is basically what you just said.
The fine line between obscenity and art is what it comes down to in court.
If the content focuses on the rape instead of a broader theme then it's going to be
obscenity in most courts. Law And Order focuses on the process of arrest, trial and
conviction. The rape is only there to establish the crime to follow through the process.

It's really a joke when people compare porn scenes with rape and violence to TV
and movie dramas because the movie and TV never focus on the rape and violence as
the sole message of the content, in addition to, the TV/movie rape not even being explicit. The rape scene in TV is 20 seconds; in porn it's 20 minutes!! :1orglaugh

When Law And Order makes an episode with 10 rape scenes one after another with
no arrest and no other message then people can argue about mainstream TV and movies
somehow "getting away with it". Until that time it's truly a stupid argument.

I remember that thread about a sponsor full of bestiality and everyone start screaming like old virgin ladies, stupid idiots...

A little rape never hurt anyone..

Thank God we are not forced to adhere to other's cultures and taste.

There are so many people in the world absolutely disgusted by pro-choice folks.

Doesn't mean we should ban abortions.

Just because the cow is sacred somewhere doesn't mean the world should stop eating hamburgers.

I personally think arranged marriage is one of the cruelest things in the world. I also respect that there are people who believe in it.

I think scat is disgusting and do not want anything to do with it. I also recognize that others are into it. I certainly wouldn't want to deny them their right.

I personally believe life begins at ejaculation, and everyone who masturbate should be charged with murder..

Is that why everybody who had sex in those older "teenage horror movies"
got brutally slaughtered short after (especially the girls)? So, adding some
primitive, political correct moral wanking to the plot should do the trick. :winkwink:

If you as a payment comapany not offering / processing MC or VISA, you are also 'not' overviewed by them.

Yeah, go for it.

Let me know when you figure out that TV and Mainstream movies don't show dicks in
pussies. Which would be the entire point of why they can do what they do.

Half the scenarios depicted in porn would be illegal if they were real.

Hell, the most disturbing rape scenes I've ever seen in my life were in mainstream films you can view any time on Netflix. (Last House On The Left and Megan is Missing)

And how many dicks went into pussies that you saw on screen?

Just a "minor point in the fine print" type question.

:helpme

funny how a guy with teens and young in his domain names complains about webbilling working with sites that say rape

The interesting thing about normative moral relativism is that it so clearly contradicts itself. The moral relativist says "you shouldn't judge what other people should or shouldn't do, because each person has their own standards."

Note the contradiction - "you shouldn't say what others shouldn't do". If moral relativism is correct, that I shouldn't say what one should do, then it's also incorrect because it says you shouldn't say that I shouldn't say that. Moral relativism rules itself to be wrong.

I don't see any difference; they're both simulated rape.
I don't spend too much time watching rape porn because I find it vile and disgusting but what I've briefly seen is much tamer than both of those films I mentioned. Especially Megan is Missing which graphically depicts for about 20 straight minutes a 13 y/o girl being brutally raped and buried alive. That movie may be those most fucked up thing I've ever witnessed and you can fire that up on your Nintendo Wii any time.

I'm not sure why a thread about rape made me laugh out loud at least 5 times...

Man, I missed this place! :thumbsup

I'm watching a Steven Seagal film and he has gone way past that and is killing people.

Have you checked that rape content? A lot is fake. I worry more about Visa, MasterCard and PayPal secretly processing for bestiality and child pornography.

Typical US folks, if it's illegal in the US, it should be illegal anywhere and you should be against it. But if it was legal int he US they would all promote it.

Why would they care. It's legal in Germany, and many other countries in the world.
People can just run into a porn shop and buy a rape DVD and pay with their same bank card.

This is Webbilling, they process for EU debit cards. This content is legal in the EU.

There should be no other discussion about morals, everyone here works in PORN, everyone has different morals, but that doesn't mean everyone just have to follow YOUR morals.

Actually I don't think it's illegal in the US. It is however illegal in Germany and England (at least according to Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_pornography
It's mostly just considered distasteful and many don't want to be associated with it.

no shit sherlock.

:1orglaugh

Ever seen Irreversible? Or hell, there's I Spit On Your Grave too, I would say both of those are worse then the simulated rape scenes portrayed on some of these porn sites.

And highlighted above is exactly the anti-porn argument.

"People get to the point where they are incapable of seeing the difference".

The difference is huge, accepting the difference and viewing the material is not the
same as viewing the material and not seeing the difference.

When you see no difference then you obviously are not even comparing the
work environment nor are you considering the impact of the environment on
the worker. You don't give a shit about a porn stars feelings, emotions or fear
of the work place or their right to work in a reasonable environment.

Nobody is shooting mainstream Hollywood movies with rape scenes while 5 guys
off camera jerk off to the scene so they can "add loads" to the cum shot.

You might do a mainstream movie part where you get ass raped in prison and
have no problem with the simulated ass rape. But if the director says "We want
this more realistic so, we won't show dick on camera but, you guys go ahead and
shove it in his ass". I bet you'll see the difference then.

sorry dude. most rape content is not produced by forcing innocent girls to take it in the ass, or else. The rape genre is 90% standard fare with bad setup, a few slaps, & a tattooed cock whore badly pretending she dont like it. In addition, many bondage sites make it quite obvious at the end of the scene that the content was consensual.

you are referring to a handful of producers who con & coerce their talent into extreme sex they didnt intend to do. These producers attempt to capture, in essence, real rape. That type of scene is found in numerous genres. Those who like that stuff know where to find it, & its not by searching for rape on google.

:upsidedow

Monsieur, you're one big fucking french idiot.

:1orglaugh