It's like a hunting. The ancient instincts are running in our blood (not in everyone of course). For example, I never hunted (never killed an animal) because I don't like it. I even don't like fishing. Yes, I know that fish has not much more brain than a cockroach and I like fish meal. However I don't like to kill it. Yes, even a fish. But on the other hand, I do understand the people who love hunting because I know, it's in their blood - we are all just animals - some more, some less...

my point was , much like the tubes ,or popular torrent sites, there is a difference between having the occasional pirated movie , and making all your money on pirated movies.

rape porn is rape porn from beginning to end. hollywood is hollywood with the occasional rape scene that is not the focus of the movie.

bdsm usually involves some elemnt of sadism , but you are quite aware the masochist is there of their own volition , unlike rape porn where the point is to make you believe the woman is an unwilling participant.

actually no , i dont think i have..:2 cents: then again nobody ever asked if i was a man or a woman :)

its hard to dispute you, simply because card processors wont back a US rape site.

However, should a US producer feel frisky & put up a free site depicting simulated rape, there is the potential of doing time, all dependent on the motivations of the dept of justice.

the obscenity law is vague, & in theory any hardcore content can be prosecuted if the DOJ is in the mood to burn witches. What holds back these witchhunts is that federal attornies have higher priorities & limited resources, the exact impediments faced by the Bush administration.

The US justice system has a tendancy to make the "due process" so long, cumbersome, & expensive, that the due process is, in essence, the punishment, even if the end game is that you escape time.

So yeah, your pretty much right. But should the Man target you for prosecution, the due process will kill you just the same.

:2 cents:

Maybe I'm better informed than you are. There is real rape and snuff stuff going around on the web. When reading a topic like this "Why does Webbilling process for rape sites?" I'm like... wow... only to discover Webbilling appears to be processing for fake rape content.

Can I cum on your face now? French cum tastes like garlic :)

My problem with promoting a rape site is the MANY idiots who think it's real.

But that's just me.

Rape, violence and hard SM are illegal in Germany. I think bestiality is illegal in Germany too but I'm not sure about that.

Exactly.

Like someone wrote, the real rape can be found on sites like facialabuse and Max Hardcore. Morons like Porno Jew who can't think for themselves consider that ok because nobody put the rape label on it for them. Now if you would put the same content on a "rape" site with "rape" written all over it in bold characters, they would freak and disapprove it. Basically anything that isn't shot with model consent, is rape. So there is a lot of real rape going around on the web and no authority is doing anything about it just like nobody does anything about the piracy problem. Non-consent and illegal and cp and piracy content go hand in hand and they can exist because everybody looks the other way.

i have submitted an application to the european union cyber crimes division to make producing and billing for scat sites illegal and punishable by imprisonment. i will post more details as they emerge.

you should be careful throwing the rape word at a respected program around here.

as a repeat customer & fan of the duke, i take offense to this. A number of his chicks tap out. whenever a girl says stop, they do. None of that is rape. Neither is a porn slut volunteering for a beatdown for money. thats just business.

:2 cents:

Thats because we have much broader definition of rape. If husband gets piss drunk and beats the shit out of his wife and then has sex, its norm in Russia. Here its called rape.
When 20 y.o. fucks some 16 y.o. girl that comes from family of drunks and drug junkies, its "taking care of her". Here its a statutory rape.

No, he's a moron. And you're getting close to being called one as well. Everyone knows its "simulated".. But its still insinuation of rape with names like Brutally Raped. Try naming your site with word child and s&x in it, even if its Little Lupe playing the role. Get it, dumb ass? You do that, and I will film you in one of our jails getting the taste of garlic from big black guy .

Are you having your period, ghetto cunt? And what are you trying to say, that if I put the words "teen sex" on my sites, I'll end up in an USA jail? Have you been watching First Blood tonight? Also, you agree with OP but you still think he's a moron? You're on crack?

We could have a long discussion about the definition of consent and whether people have the courage to say "stop" in certain situations. But I don't want to have that discussion with you, if you don't mind. Just out of curiosity, do they show any of their existing content to models before shooting with them, and is it true that they ask models to sign the model release BEFORE the shoot starts?

Scat is consent, and even if it was illegal, there is still something like "morals". For example, in some European countries you can go to jail for denying the Holocaust. In other countries you won't get to jail because it falls within the right of free speech but that doesn't mean that you should go out on the street and shout that the Holocaust never took place. Because it would be immoral.

So IMO faked rape content is as acceptable as any rape scene in any Hollywood production. If it's real or looks real, it should be illegal, and investigated. No matter what kind of site it's on. I'm sure the really bad stuff can be found on filelockers though.

sorry after further consultation with my associates we have decided that no one would consent to a scat scene unless they were drugged, suffering from dementia praecox, mesmerism, ritual child sex abuse, or small skulls.

the secretary is drawing up the petition tomorrow morning.

Wrong: Criminal Code 115, Criminal Code 113, Criminal Code 117, Criminal Code 111

16 is the age of consent in Russia so the girl has a right to decide who to sleep with. Why don't you say she's 18, 21 or 33? Will it change anything? If the the guy doesn't hold her against her will (Criminal Code 126), it's really not a crime.

Sorry, but you have no idea about Russian laws, but trying to argue with me. Why?

Oh, just one question. Could the following scenes be considered as a rape (staged of course):

http://content.boundgangbangs.com/tr...GB_300x250.swf
http://content.boundgangbangs.com/tr...GB_300x250.swf
http://content.boundgangbangs.com/tr...GB_300x250.swf

Yes or not? Where is the line?

ArseWithClass had his site pulled by Epoch because he was advertising rape on it, so he probably knows more than most how this can impact your business.

Reading this thread, it suddenly came to me, how easy it would be to shackle online porn. https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=18680474#post18680474

No u dumb euro trash. It wasn't word "teen" I was talking about.

Oh please, spare me. Kак будто я не знаю как в России к этому относятся.

Yes you don't know. Codes 115, 113, 117 and 111 are the most working (say popular) ones in Russia. Once again infliction of injuries is a very common crime here, but not the rape.

BTW, what's about my question regarding 3 promos from Kinks? Could it be considered as a staged rape and why?

This is what came to me in a flash.

What SOPA does is enforce existing laws. So sites that are coming into the US conforms to the existing laws in the US. Yes it goes on a bit harder in trying to enforce those law. However if you did what online sites do in breaking the laws of the land, you have to expect a back lash.

So this thread makes it clear that many sites ignore the laws of the countries they are available to. Here's how they could block porn on the Internet or hit it so hard it would be very hard to operate.

Today any under 18 can view porn online. Can they also walk into a porn shop and view porn without the owner getting into trouble? If they can it's an easy law to pass. Then they pass another one saying any site that doesn't verify the age of a viewer is breaking US law, so they had best block US traffic or get their site hit by the same penalties that pirates will face.

Truth is they don't care, except when electioneering, so don't do anything.

yep. they do an interview with the talent as the scene begins. In some of the interviews, duke alludes to what they think of what they saw & are about to do.

as i dont work there, i dont know when model releases get signed. What i can tell you is...several of the ladies can't take the abuse after 10 minutes, & the scene is cut short.

The content is shot in the NYC area & he's been doing it nearly a decade, so if the authorities thought any non-consensual activity was happening, believe me he woulda been shut down real fast.

I'm not interested in debating the concept of young women not knowing what they are getting into either. i shoot for my own site...some ladies are much more responsible about their safety then others. You can't save a naive person from themselves i'm afraid. I didnt bring up Max because his tactics are dancing on the word rape. But i can attest the ladies that work for the duke know what they're getting into.

my work is done here. good luck.

Codes-schmodes. I was talking about whats reported as rape in Russia vs the US. Sexual assaults are taken very seriously in the states. Shit like this would not fly here. You justice system is fucked up and corrupted as hell.

http://www.myudm.ru/node/13317

http://police-russia.info/index.php/...tnej-devochki/

http://www.vologda.kp.ru/online/news/1020150/

http://www.newsland.ru/news/detail/id/741474/

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Yes it is corrupted as hell. I totally agree with that statement.

But "fucked up" applies best to the US justice system. Ours much more liberal and just. However yes all its good sides are being ruined by corruption.

In 2004 I worked with a Scottish model who had worked for Facial Abuse and she told me that she wasn't able to swallow any food for weeks. She also said she found it strange having to sign the model release before the shoot. I find that strange too and if combined with the "can't take the abuse after 10 minutes, & the scene is cut short" it can be concluded that the material is still being sold, after all they already signed the release? In that case, do the models get paid for a full scene, or do they get less pay?

I agree with your "porn slut volunteering for a beatdown for money is just business" comment. But I won't shoot anything with very naive, drugged, drunk or emotionally unbalanced models, I hardly ever shoot 18 year old models either, most are >21.

Maybe my "rape" comment wasn't carefully chose, than on the other hand, there isn't much difference between "rape" and "abuse", is there? So maybe better to rename the venture into "facial romancing" :) But yeah I agree the way they work, it isn't rape. So I take that back and apologize to "the duke" whoever he may be.

I know that duck faced cunt, I just didn't want to use the term "c. sex". My point remains the same though, anybody can create any website and write c. sex all over it and get away with it, and get away with a lot regarding the actual content as well. And that's because the world has become apathic.

Also, what can be concluded from what you and some others claim in this thread:

1) Pseudo rape sites with the word "rape" in the domainname should be illegal
2) Rape content is ok, just as long as it's not being sold from sites that have the word "rape" in the domain name
3) Whether this rape content is real or fake doesn't matter

What a load of bullshit! At least I quickly learn who I shouldn't take seriously in here!

:1orglaugh

LOL. Like when a daughter of local judge kills 2 people by driving them over gets suspended sentence and walks free? Give me a break. American system is far from being perfect, but at least its not corrupt to the bone like the one in Russia where money make you just.

The models I shoot scat content with are just no-limit whores being bored with shooting vanilla porn, and they like the money too. They chose to do it, aren't drugged or drunk, are adult, and that's what makes it consent according to me. Whether it's healthy is something else but the same could be said about getting tattood or pierced or bungee jumping, did you see that Australian girl on the news? :1orglaugh

I don't know what shit hole you live in but here you won't get away with it. I dare you to make a site with 2 keywords you are too afraid to type here.

Received another spam from Care2Causes today, and this caught my eye:

In US, More Women Were Raped Last Year Than Smoke Cigarettes

If you can't get away with it in the US, then that's good. About Europe... see my "about LeaseWeb" thread. One of the domains we found on there looks something like "13-year-old-cuties.com" and no authority seems to be bothered about it. Most content on the front page isn't nude, it's erotic poses with wide open legs with sometimes private bits sticking out. And hardly anybody cares. I brought it under attention of politicians too though and one does care and confirmed he's getting to the bottom of this and LeaseWeb is stupid enough to keep those sites online. Back to the topic, lot of "rape" sites on there as well. And lot of bestiality, rape and "teen" content on European based file lockers as well, who all accept PayPal, Visa, and MasterCard. So that's why I conclude the world has become apathic. In the 90s the attitude was totally different.

Agreed, you're talking about full blown rape porn sites, rather than occasional scenes where the solo artist is of complete control with the scene.
Truthfully, as my father taught me once, a marsbar or a million pounds, stealings stealing. So pirated porn should never be justified, nor should real rape porn. I think for those that watch some brutal porn, tie & tease, etc, It can surpass a fact that it is a film & not real.

LOl, obvious says the the obvious woman, my bad :) Wondering, have you ever watched scum, the movie. If so, does the male rape scene in that turn you on?


That's upsetting man :(

Thats because our definition of "rape" is a lot broader than what it should be.

Meaning they got drunk, 2 days later broke up, she got pissed and called cops.

And just because the site you question is still up, doesn't mean no-one cares. Feds bust pedos all the time by tracing sites they join and setting up their own honeypots.

O wait reading the rest of your post now. Well I'm sure they don't care about the bestiality, it was a cop who replied to me with "I don't know where to take that". The politician cares though. The "13" cp site I just referred to is down now though, I just checked. Took a few weeks though.

Yup, it's illegal, too:

Are you blind or what??? I said that Russian justice is much more liberal than the US one. But I also said there is an awful corruption here. So why the hell you are still showing me the cases of pure corruption? It's not a flaw in the legal system. It's a fuckin' CORRUPTION.

BTW, are you talking about this case, Right?

What about the American couple that KILLED A SMALL BOY, but was released from the court recently?

Are you agree they do not deserve a more serious punishment? Perhaps because killing is way of live in the USA. That's why they were not punished, right? The US legal system has a set of mush more "serious crimes" like these:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/14-y...ticle-1.364096 (14yo girls is a sex offender, what a morons...)

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/co...ars_in_prison/ (not a news itself, just a discussion)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nner-case.html (I know the story of this guy in details - he already spent 5 years in the NYC jail for nothing)

And if that's not enough, please get a clue and read something about NDAA (National Defense Authorization Act). American justice my ass.

etc...

No, please YOU give me a break. At least there is no death penalty in Russia like in all other civilized countries and only the USA still lived according to the barbarian laws.