Originally Posted by Roald (Post 18682099)

Yesterday:
13,781 Unique IPs
39,182 Impressions
20,792 Video Views

Raw 1319
Unique 797
Join 238
Sales 0

Traffic is way too low to expect any real sales imo

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 18682948)

As usual, Paul, you're missing the entire point. Got domains sitting around? 10 minutes later they're a tube.

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18682994)

Yes that traffic is not so big to make some precise decisions, but I can it for sure - you just wasting it. Try to send it to something that really converts :2 cents:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18683008)

You are correct Edge, but different tubes convert different. A tube with 1-5 minute clips on the board will convert 100's times better than one which if full of full-length movies (20-90 minutes each). You may try to convert such tubes via cam and dating sites, but this sort of traffic won't do for paysites :2 cents:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 18683012)

in the hostedtube.com back end you can set the videos to 1 minute, 3 minutes or max. You can even say how many free videos per day etc

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18683020)

Try it then. Should work IMHO.

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18683008)

You are correct Edge, but different tubes convert different. A tube with 1-5 minute clips on the board will convert 100's times better than one which is full of full-length movies (20-90 minutes). You may try to convert such tubes via cam and dating sites, but such sort of traffic won't work to sell paysites :2 cents:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 18683054)

Can those alternatives be set up in 10 minutes? That's the point I'm trying to make here -- people have unused domains that they do nothing with because they have "big plans" down the road. It never (or usually never) pans out, and the domains languish. With this solution, they can build traffic to their properties, maybe make some sales, but at least do SOMETHING with 'em.

PimpRoll has consistently been a leader in parking your unused domains, and this is the natural evolution, in my opinion.

Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 18683053)

did u publish after making the change. I know I've forgotten to a couple of times

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 18682783)

Thats exactly what I thought, its so easy to stand on the side and comment like you always do.

So easy to get traffic huh? Put up or shut up Paul. You are the one looking like a fool here, not me :2 cents:

Good bye.

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 18682948)

As usual, Paul, you're missing the entire point. Got domains sitting around? 10 minutes later they're a tube. Did you make a sale with them that year? Good, then you covered the cost of the domain, and everything else is gravy.

Until you have something people can plug unused domains into that'll actually grow them traffic and has the possibility of sales, you're just babbling nonsense as always.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18683075)

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18683075)

You don't get it.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18682688)

I just quoted your figures as you keep ribbing me. I could post all the figures of all the posters and add them together.

So why not.

223719 uniques
3 sales.

1-74573

Whoopsy doopsy daisy. :1orglaugh

Of course it could all be the same bunch op people just going to different white label tubes.

The PR crew will tell me I'm stupid, know nothing and everything else. But to me it's not good.

As for trying it myself. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

That's a good one. :thumbsup



Seems like a good idea to me. Teach the people on Search Engines they don't have to pay for porn any more. :thumbsup

And I'm a shit photographer??????????????

I used to sell 1-1. Not online, that was the days before people got porn for free. In fact the days when they paid for samples. You know the bad days pre the online geniuses. :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18683142)

god please shut up you senile old man. must your ruin every thread you post in?

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 18683151)

It's unbelievable how he feels he needs to post the same crap over and over again. Reminds me of some fat guy sitting on the couch eating cheese puffs yelling at quarterbacks on TV telling them how they should be playing the game.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18683075)

You don't get it. This is a quarter of a million uniques getting off on free porn for 3 sales. At $60 a sale that's $180. OK some might be the same on different sites. And Roalds solution is to throw more traffic at the Tubes. :Oh crap.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18682688)

I used to sell 1-1.

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 18682948)

As usual, Paul, you're missing the entire point. Got domains sitting around? 10 minutes later they're a tube. Did you make a sale with them that year? Good, then you covered the cost of the domain, and everything else is gravy.

Until you have something people can plug unused domains into that'll actually grow them traffic and has the possibility of sales, you're just babbling nonsense as always.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18682105)

Am I reading this right?

You got 13,781 surfers to your tube.
They watched 20,792 video (1.5 per surfer)

1319 or 797 went to the site.
238 went to the join page

And you got no sales.

Traffic is easy to get. Making them buy something is the problem you have here 0-13,781. :(

13,781 getting off for free who like looking at porn. :upsidedow

How many do you think you need? 30,000. 60,000?

Backs up what you have in your signature.

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 18682552)

uhm how is traffic easy to get. We send some to it cause we HAVE it yes. Getting it from scratch is a whole different thing.

I am not judging these numbers now since I know a few things coming up which will be very interesting. The numbers suck I agree, however we didnt do anything else to the site then just putting it up.

Why dont you try it if its that easy? Im sure you have a domain left somewhere you can put this on. Doesn't cost you anything besides about 10 minutes to set it up. Show us how easy it is to get traffic please :2 cents:

Originally Posted by bengtarne (Post 18683359)

Do we get credit for that Get Laid link to xxxmatch?

Originally Posted by borked (Post 18683214)

Paul - I can see the angle you're coming from and you're not entirely wrong. Look at it this way: the people sending traffic to this are affiliates, so they want to make money from their traffic.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18683495)

It's a difference of opinion and not really about what's right or wrong.

I count the number of people viewing the site, or the gallery. Others ignore that number and only count the number going to the site. Both are pretty dismal. IMO.

Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18683929)

170 Raw
134 Unique
134 Join
132 Sales

All I did is put Paul Markham Teens iframe instead of google analytics.

Originally Posted by borked (Post 18683527)

In "your day" what did you count, if anything but the cash? I know stats weren't as advanced back then but still, hits to view a picture gal were relatively high and the clickthru rate to the paysite was what, 1 in a few hundred? I'm talking now *before* vids hit the scene....

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 18683054)

Can those alternatives be set up in 10 minutes? That's the point I'm trying to make here -- people have unused domains that they do nothing with because they have "big plans" down the road. It never (or usually never) pans out, and the domains languish. With this solution, they can build traffic to their properties, maybe make some sales, but at least do SOMETHING with 'em.

PimpRoll has consistently been a leader in parking your unused domains, and this is the natural evolution, in my opinion.

Originally Posted by magicmike (Post 18684021)

just put paul on ignore and save your self a lot of wasted time.

Originally Posted by Jarmusch (Post 18682581)

160k uniques and 12k video views? You win the shittiest traffic award.

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 18683025)

I just put it on 3 minutes and 10 free videos a day, lets see :thumbsup

Originally Posted by DaLord (Post 18684258)

OR he's using a shitty program...

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18682907)

Is there any way you can lower the minimum number of videos needed to get things started. I want to use one specific niche that only has 600 or so videos and I can't progress because your system tells me I need 1000 as a minimum. None of the other niches really fit with the one I want to use here, and as a surfer I'd be pissed if I came looking for one thing and got another.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 18684382)

i can help you with this one, hit me up on icq.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18684105)

Actually a very good point. When I was selling Astral Blue videos, the way to get new customers was to advertise in men's magazines. This wasn't expensive if you got it right. So I soon learned that if a magazine boasted a 100k circulation it charged accordingly, usually $800. The advert would bring 100 replies spending $800 and these would carry on buying between 1-2 to all the catalogue. At $40 a tape. So they bought the magazine, then bought the sample, then bought again and again.

This pales in comparison to what the sex lines were getting in return for their advertising and why many of the magazine owners were running their own ads. David Sullivan, David Gold and Richard Desmond filled the ad pages in their own magazines with their own sex line adverts. Sullivan had a National newspaper with pages of his own adverts. That's where they made the big money to get them able to invest outside porn. Google them.



I have no dispute the the fact the Internet changed the game 180 degrees. That this is now the only game in town and people are stuck with the choice of playing this game or get off the pitch. I'm sure a few have made really good money. Like Roald. The majority haven't and work from home as one man bands. This is what content providers get to see. We don't get the BS that is given to affiliates.

I dispute the continual ass kissing and claiming very bad is good. The best that can be done today? Without a doubt, spot on 100% correct, but that doesn't make it good.



And the spiral goes down.



I see it to. Just like to tell people that bad isn't good. What Pimproll have done is put another nail in the coffin of selling porn. Still a few nails to go, but it takes time.

If they hadn't done it, someone else would of. Now they have done it, who's planning to do it next. Do you think no one will copy them? That puts a nail in your coffin of 3 minute clips. Eventually most recorded porn will be given away to sell the little parts left that can't be given away, until they are given away. Then who knows.


It's a nice fantasy and if it did happen you guys would see the power that porn used to have.

Amusing, what makes you think I amuse people? I see a lot of annoyance.

This is the only game left, play it or get off the field and watch. Just don't play it and claim bad is good. :thumbsup

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18684105)

Actually a very good point. When I was selling Astral Blue videos, the way to get new customers was to advertise in men's magazines. This wasn't expensive if you got it right. So I soon learned that if a magazine boasted a 100k circulation it charged accordingly, usually $800. The advert would bring 100 replies spending $800 and these would carry on buying between 1-2 to all the catalogue. At $40 a tape. So they bought the magazine, then bought the sample, then bought again and again.