seo means shit too, you need to presell, however SEO assumes presseling, cause you will not get rankings without some of it which is optimising to search engines and presell as well;)

blind traffic could be seo too

I just quoted your figures as you keep ribbing me. I could post all the figures of all the posters and add them together.

So why not.

223719 uniques
3 sales.

1-74573

Whoopsy doopsy daisy. :1orglaugh

Of course it could all be the same bunch op people just going to different white label tubes.

The PR crew will tell me I'm stupid, know nothing and everything else. But to me it's not good.

As for trying it myself. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

That's a good one. :thumbsup

Seems like a good idea to me. Teach the people on Search Engines they don't have to pay for porn any more. :thumbsup

And I'm a shit photographer??????????????

I used to sell 1-1. Not online, that was the days before people got porn for free. In fact the days when they paid for samples. You know the bad days pre the online geniuses. :1orglaugh

Thats exactly what I thought, its so easy to stand on the side and comment like you always do.

So easy to get traffic huh? Put up or shut up Paul. You are the one looking like a fool here, not me :2 cents:

Good bye.

oh yeah forgot to mention that I send some 404 traffic there also lol
waiting for the option to add statcounter, then will have a better understanding whats the main source of the traffic :)

it's there.

Have to give them another look

Is there any way you can lower the minimum number of videos needed to get things started. I want to use one specific niche that only has 600 or so videos and I can't progress because your system tells me I need 1000 as a minimum. None of the other niches really fit with the one I want to use here, and as a surfer I'd be pissed if I came looking for one thing and got another.

Thanks.

We added StatCounter tracking :)

As usual, Paul, you're missing the entire point. Got domains sitting around? 10 minutes later they're a tube. Did you make a sale with them that year? Good, then you covered the cost of the domain, and everything else is gravy.

Until you have something people can plug unused domains into that'll actually grow them traffic and has the possibility of sales, you're just babbling nonsense as always.

that was fast. wow when did you guys added it? :)

Unique IPs 1,141
Impressions 12,789
Video Views 3,907

Close to a month into the hosted tube thing so I will continue to tweak, wait and give it more time.

noticed this last month - Cross Sales is already checked "I Dont Care For Pre checked sales just my choice" I dont think surfers want to see 2 different prices on a signup form confuses some may scare others from being screwed in the past.

again I will wait and see what PR has in store in the coming days as this hosted tube is somewhat new.

Yes that traffic is not so big to make some precise decisions, but I can it for sure - you just wasting it. Try to send it to something that really converts :2 cents:

You are correct Edge, but different tubes convert different. A tube with 1-5 minute clips on the board will convert 100's times better than one which is full of full-length movies (20-90 minutes). You may try to convert such tubes via cam and dating sites, but such sort of traffic won't work to sell paysites :2 cents:

that would mean I would have to work with the domain. And thats the thing, I dont want to put time in it as I dont have it. If this hosted tube is generating traffic it comes in handy the moment we decide to run our own full tube (or what ever) and actually do want to put time in it. That is IF we ever run something of our own on it cause, again, what is coming up with this sollution (see replies Ross) is quite promising :2 cents:

in the hostedtube.com back end you can set the videos to 1 minute, 3 minutes or max. You can even say how many free videos per day etc

Try it then. Should work IMHO.

I just put it on 3 minutes and 10 free videos a day, lets see :thumbsup

Does anyone know how long it takes for the Video Length to filter.
Going from Max Available to 3 min clips.

I set it on one domain but it still at Max Available and that was like 2 days ago or so..

did u publish after making the change. I know I've forgotten to a couple of times

Can those alternatives be set up in 10 minutes? That's the point I'm trying to make here -- people have unused domains that they do nothing with because they have "big plans" down the road. It never (or usually never) pans out, and the domains languish. With this solution, they can build traffic to their properties, maybe make some sales, but at least do SOMETHING with 'em.

PimpRoll has consistently been a leader in parking your unused domains, and this is the natural evolution, in my opinion.

this :thumbsup

yes I did and went back and double check..

maybe it takes a while if one is using all categories?

As usual you don't get it. Getting traffic is easy. I get traffic on all my sites. It's traffic. The problem is I don't get enough to make me my next million, talking pesos here. The problem is not enough sales, not not enough traffic.

223719 uniques
3 sales.

1-74573

Whoopsy doopsy daisy.

If the only solution is to give away more free porn. Then I'm glad we made out money and don't need to get in on this great tool.

What ever you're smoking must be good stuff.

I counted 8 people posting stats. So these 8 people had domains unused, un-worked domains getting 223,719 uniques from. Close to twenty eight thousand, per person, in the short period they had the tubes. They would be better off selling the traffic to Choker to sell it to Tubes. With a simple redirect. Or selling a Dating site. Or putting a TGP gallery on the domain. If they didn't worked the Tube, then I'm right and Roald is wrong. Not working and getting close to twenty eight thousand uniques proves how easy traffic is to get. Getting the 28,000 to buy something is the problem.

You don't get it. This is a quarter of a million uniques getting off on free porn for 3 sales. At $60 a sale that's $180. OK some might be the same on different sites. And Roalds solution is to throw more traffic at the Tubes. :Oh crap.

Even Roald was too embarrassed to quote the ratios of all.

The problem is simple, people only see the 3 sales from one person and ignore the 223,716 who didn't even buy from a dating site or cam site.

I give up, you win.

I'm afraid that you actually believe yourself and aren't trolling; that's the scary part. You realize that this content gives surfers a REASON to go to the domains that were just sitting there, right? That just redirecting it will likely DECREASE traffic, not increase it? And that after the traffic is built, the webmaster can than leverage it at a later date with another offering?

I saw a homeless guy standing on the side of the road with a sign "you're all doing it wrong," and I thought of you. The difference is that he's actually making decent money, I bet.

god please shut up you senile old man. must your ruin every thread you post in?

It's unbelievable how he feels he needs to post the same crap over and over again. Reminds me of some fat guy sitting on the couch eating cheese puffs yelling at quarterbacks on TV telling them how they should be playing the game.

Since monday - updated stats
6,839 Unique IPs
27,937 Impressions
3,214 Video Views

Raw 1039
Unique 652
Join 301

Sales 4

You can still make sales these days. It is all about learning your traffic.

even more sad is he used to brag and hope for rations like that back in the day, before he failed and gave up at life.

Paul - I can see the angle you're coming from and you're not entirely wrong. Look at it this way: the people sending traffic to this are affiliates, so they want to make money from their traffic.

So, it is not in their interest to make a tube with the option <unlimited time> videos (or whatever that option is, mentioned above. They will make their tube with the vast majority being 1 or 2 min clips, to try to entice a few of their xxx thousand visitors to sign up. No-one will sign up on a tube loaded with 60mins vids - we both agree on this, right?

Right?

So, look at it this way - the web will be awash with pimproll tubes in no time. Vast majority being eg 3min clips. Duplicated content at worst everywhere you look - all SEO'd by the affiliates so the SE rankings show just tubes....

What better way to de-value tubes, make it harder to find the illegal tube, and to drive sales to quality paysites?

Just my :2 cents:

There is two game changers coming to Hosted Tube next week. Nice to see 1 of our many webmasters posted their sales tho, just shows you it is very worthwhile and will only get better and better. Stay tuned!

i'm going to bump all your old threads where you used to say if you were 1:300 with your paysites or whatever you would be "over the moon.'

you are either senile or a liar or both.

exactly!

its not 0-13781.

A hosted tube is not clicks to a sponsor. It is just the same as having a free site. Not everyone on a free site clicks to a sponsor. A blog with a picture that clicks thru to a sponsor might get more people to a sponsor, at the same time it is more misleading, but this wouldn't change much.

Not even sure why I am answering you.

saying it doesnt convert, and actually doing it and seeing it doesnt convert, paul thinks they are the same.

Remember that thread Dave made last week or so asking PM to be the HostedTube spokesman? I think they hired him to stirr shit and keep the thread going lol

Do we get credit for that Get Laid link to xxxmatch?

Yep. You'll see XXX Match in your PimpRoll stats. (updated once a day)

It's a difference of opinion and not really about what's right or wrong.

I count the number of people viewing the site, or the gallery. Others ignore that number and only count the number going to the site. Both are pretty dismal. IMO.

Others think they are pretty good to convert 1-500 going to the site and it take 2,550 uniques to get the 500. IN THEIR OPINION.

I think it's wrong, but realise the game of giving away more and more free content is just a game of leap frog. It started with decent numbers and gone to IMO awful numbers.

I don't agree with your scenario, because all this is teaching the surfers to keep searching for full length free videos. Legal or not doesn't come into it. They don't care, they don't think they have to pay for porn. And they are right. They don't have to. Not an opinion.

Whether converting now 7 in 250,000 is good or bad. Is just an opinion. Ultimately the ratios will get worse. Because to do otherwise would reverse the trend of the last 12 years. Then people will talk about the days when 7 in 250,000 was the good old days.

And yes IMO, 250,000 uniques looking at porn is 250,000 uniques looking at porn. If only 10% or 20% 0r 5% can be asked to click on a link, doesn't mean they don't consume porn and some of them a potential market. Well they would be if the had to pay for porn. :Oh crap

Just my opinion. :thumbsup

In "your day" what did you count, if anything but the cash? I know stats weren't as advanced back then but still, hits to view a picture gal were relatively high and the clickthru rate to the paysite was what, 1 in a few hundred? I'm talking now *before* vids hit the scene....

Then TGPs came along, and everyone was calling chicken little.... for just cause. For everyone jacking off for free to a few pics, there came an explosion off tgps showing what they wanted for free. What was the name of that Aussie guy who did the great TGP script? I forget... anyway, hosted TGPs took care off that. And if not...

Then MGPs came along and put told to the TGPs and... bandwidth was pretty expensive at the time (2004'ish?), so not an explosion in MGPs, but it made profit for those that adapted to it.

Et alors, today, it's the tube's spotlight.....

lather, rinse, repeat.


What pimproll has done is the nail in the coffin for home-hosted tubes and the dawn of the new era.

That's how I see it. Whether or not you do, I don't really care.

You seem to be on a one-man-soapbox crusade to rid the internet of non-payed-for porn. It won't happen bud!!! Not even if all the heads of state stood up behind you.

In any case, carry on ranting, as it is quite amusing :thumbsup