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Robbie 01-11-2012 03:51 PM

I'm at 0:1375

HardlinkSells 01-11-2012 04:34 PM

This thread is boo and too long now.

JohnnyPearl 01-11-2012 07:20 PM

From Jan 1st - Jan 10th

5,424 Unique IPs
31,588 Impressions
11,095 Video Views

2324 Raw
1739 Unique
654 Join
1 Sales

Just Alex 01-11-2012 09:41 PM

170 Raw
134 Unique
134 Join
132 Sales

All I did is put Paul Markham Teens iframe instead of google analytics.

anexsia 01-11-2012 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18683929)
170 Raw
134 Unique
134 Join
132 Sales

All I did is put Paul Markham Teens iframe instead of google analytics.

Try using the Magic Join Links iframe instead, I don't even have a hosted tube up yet and I'm already seeing 458 sales from the under construction page. It's converting 1:2 (I assume the 1 visitor who didn't buy probably had a hardware failure or spilled soda on his keyboard and freaked out and wasn't processed through correctly).

Here's a customized Magic Join Links iframe to use for immediate sales:

<iframe>
<magicjoinlink="INSERT PIMPROLL ID HERE" title="You're credit card just got fucked without you knowing, thanks for signing up">Welcome to my Tube Site!</magicjoinlink>
</iframe>
<br/>
<div align="center">
Need more porn? Visit <a href="http://yessignals.com">YES SIGNALS!</a>
</div>

magicmike 01-12-2012 12:04 AM

just put paul on ignore and save your self a lot of wasted time.

Paul Markham 01-12-2012 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked (Post 18683527)
In "your day" what did you count, if anything but the cash? I know stats weren't as advanced back then but still, hits to view a picture gal were relatively high and the clickthru rate to the paysite was what, 1 in a few hundred? I'm talking now *before* vids hit the scene....

Actually a very good point. When I was selling Astral Blue videos, the way to get new customers was to advertise in men's magazines. This wasn't expensive if you got it right. So I soon learned that if a magazine boasted a 100k circulation it charged accordingly, usually $800. The advert would bring 100 replies spending $800 and these would carry on buying between 1-2 to all the catalogue. At $40 a tape. So they bought the magazine, then bought the sample, then bought again and again.

This pales in comparison to what the sex lines were getting in return for their advertising and why many of the magazine owners were running their own ads. David Sullivan, David Gold and Richard Desmond filled the ad pages in their own magazines with their own sex line adverts. Sullivan had a National newspaper with pages of his own adverts. That's where they made the big money to get them able to invest outside porn. Google them.

Quote:

Then TGPs came along, and everyone was calling chicken little.... for just cause. For everyone jacking off for free to a few pics, there came an explosion off tgps showing what they wanted for free. What was the name of that Aussie guy who did the great TGP script? I forget... anyway, hosted TGPs took care off that. And if not...
I have no dispute the the fact the Internet changed the game 180 degrees. That this is now the only game in town and people are stuck with the choice of playing this game or get off the pitch. I'm sure a few have made really good money. Like Roald. The majority haven't and work from home as one man bands. This is what content providers get to see. We don't get the BS that is given to affiliates.

I dispute the continual ass kissing and claiming very bad is good. The best that can be done today? Without a doubt, spot on 100% correct, but that doesn't make it good.

Quote:

Then MGPs came along and put told to the TGPs and... bandwidth was pretty expensive at the time (2004'ish?), so not an explosion in MGPs, but it made profit for those that adapted to it.

Et alors, today, it's the tube's spotlight.....

lather, rinse, repeat.
And the spiral goes down.

Quote:

What pimproll has done is the nail in the coffin for home-hosted tubes and the dawn of the new era.

That's how I see it. Whether or not you do, I don't really care.
I see it to. Just like to tell people that bad isn't good. What Pimproll have done is put another nail in the coffin of selling porn. Still a few nails to go, but it takes time.

If they hadn't done it, someone else would of. Now they have done it, who's planning to do it next. Do you think no one will copy them? That puts a nail in your coffin of 3 minute clips. Eventually most recorded porn will be given away to sell the little parts left that can't be given away, until they are given away. Then who knows.
Quote:

You seem to be on a one-man-soapbox crusade to rid the internet of non-payed-for porn. It won't happen bud!!! Not even if all the heads of state stood up behind you.

In any case, carry on ranting, as it is quite amusing :thumbsup
It's a nice fantasy and if it did happen you guys would see the power that porn used to have.

Amusing, what makes you think I amuse people? I see a lot of annoyance.

This is the only game left, play it or get off the field and watch. Just don't play it and claim bad is good. :thumbsup

Paul Markham 01-12-2012 04:11 AM

Can one of the cleverer than me people explain, because I don't get it, why this isn't very bad? Please educate me.

I counted these stats of those that gave them. So just a guide.

12,902 Raw
2,774 join page
8 sales.

That's
1-346.75 converting from the join page.
1-1612.75 from the tour.
1-4.65 of tour hits going to the join page, now that's a very high ratio so check it for me please.

250,000 uniques, converts to 12,902 tour hits. 1-19.37 click a banner.

More amusement for you Bork.

lagcam 01-12-2012 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 18683054)
Can those alternatives be set up in 10 minutes? That's the point I'm trying to make here -- people have unused domains that they do nothing with because they have "big plans" down the road. It never (or usually never) pans out, and the domains languish. With this solution, they can build traffic to their properties, maybe make some sales, but at least do SOMETHING with 'em.

PimpRoll has consistently been a leader in parking your unused domains, and this is the natural evolution, in my opinion.

This makes a lot of sense.

TubeSubmitters 01-12-2012 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magicmike (Post 18684021)
just put paul on ignore and save your self a lot of wasted time.

Quoted for the truth! :thumbsup

DaLord 01-12-2012 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarmusch (Post 18682581)
160k uniques and 12k video views? You win the shittiest traffic award.

OR he's using a shitty program...

Verbal 01-12-2012 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 18683025)
I just put it on 3 minutes and 10 free videos a day, lets see :thumbsup

Would be very interested in hearing if you've had better results with the 3 min. vids.

Thanks!

candyflip 01-12-2012 07:11 AM

Paul is just trying to live up to his GFY Troll of the Year title. Ignore him and maybe he'll just die off.

Literally.

Ross 01-12-2012 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaLord (Post 18684258)
OR he's using a shitty program...

Its a tube site, not a programme. 160,000 visitors to the index and only 12,000 clicked on a video.

jimmycooper 01-12-2012 07:28 AM

Damnit. I had the perfect domain name in mind but it was already taken. Oh well. Have fun with the feeding.

http://i.imgur.com/hOUeV.png

PR_Glen 01-12-2012 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18682907)
Is there any way you can lower the minimum number of videos needed to get things started. I want to use one specific niche that only has 600 or so videos and I can't progress because your system tells me I need 1000 as a minimum. None of the other niches really fit with the one I want to use here, and as a surfer I'd be pissed if I came looking for one thing and got another.

Thanks.

i can help you with this one, hit me up on icq.

candyflip 01-12-2012 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 18684382)
i can help you with this one, hit me up on icq.

Thanks Glen...I'll give you a shout as soon as I'm on a machine with ICQ.

Tom_PM 01-12-2012 10:13 AM

It seems pretty simple to me. It's a very easy tool to use on domains that are otherwise useless or underperforming or costing you money to manage. I've got to get in there and make a few.

porno jew 01-12-2012 10:19 AM

people are annoyed with your because you derail every constructive thread pontificating and things you are absolutely clueless about, painfully so. not because you are telling them some uncomfortable truth.

it's like two guys are at a lounge having a business meeting, and you sit down with them and start to give them the absolutely worst and more clueless business advice ever. you would get knocked out or kicked out. but this is the internet, so the most people can do is out you on ignore.

that said, pimproll ratios have been poor in general for a long time. nothing to do with the format generally. surfers tend to stop at the join page. have no idea why.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18684105)
Actually a very good point. When I was selling Astral Blue videos, the way to get new customers was to advertise in men's magazines. This wasn't expensive if you got it right. So I soon learned that if a magazine boasted a 100k circulation it charged accordingly, usually $800. The advert would bring 100 replies spending $800 and these would carry on buying between 1-2 to all the catalogue. At $40 a tape. So they bought the magazine, then bought the sample, then bought again and again.

This pales in comparison to what the sex lines were getting in return for their advertising and why many of the magazine owners were running their own ads. David Sullivan, David Gold and Richard Desmond filled the ad pages in their own magazines with their own sex line adverts. Sullivan had a National newspaper with pages of his own adverts. That's where they made the big money to get them able to invest outside porn. Google them.



I have no dispute the the fact the Internet changed the game 180 degrees. That this is now the only game in town and people are stuck with the choice of playing this game or get off the pitch. I'm sure a few have made really good money. Like Roald. The majority haven't and work from home as one man bands. This is what content providers get to see. We don't get the BS that is given to affiliates.

I dispute the continual ass kissing and claiming very bad is good. The best that can be done today? Without a doubt, spot on 100% correct, but that doesn't make it good.



And the spiral goes down.



I see it to. Just like to tell people that bad isn't good. What Pimproll have done is put another nail in the coffin of selling porn. Still a few nails to go, but it takes time.

If they hadn't done it, someone else would of. Now they have done it, who's planning to do it next. Do you think no one will copy them? That puts a nail in your coffin of 3 minute clips. Eventually most recorded porn will be given away to sell the little parts left that can't be given away, until they are given away. Then who knows.


It's a nice fantasy and if it did happen you guys would see the power that porn used to have.

Amusing, what makes you think I amuse people? I see a lot of annoyance.

This is the only game left, play it or get off the field and watch. Just don't play it and claim bad is good. :thumbsup


porno jew 01-12-2012 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18684105)
Actually a very good point. When I was selling Astral Blue videos, the way to get new customers was to advertise in men's magazines. This wasn't expensive if you got it right. So I soon learned that if a magazine boasted a 100k circulation it charged accordingly, usually $800. The advert would bring 100 replies spending $800 and these would carry on buying between 1-2 to all the catalogue. At $40 a tape. So they bought the magazine, then bought the sample, then bought again and again.

so you just admitted you would get what would be a 1:1000 ratio back in the magazine days. yet online that's somehow the end of the world. fuck you are a retard. just shut up and go try and figure out how to do that puzzle with once piece you have.

cooldude7 01-12-2012 10:36 AM

wtf happened here ?


ooh paul markham happened .

Fabien 01-12-2012 10:49 AM

1) I wanted to know if there's a possibility to add a trade script ?

2) Use an email (from the domain)
ex: [email protected]

You see, i got a couple of domains which i could turn into your tube thingo (i'm sure lots of others too would need this)

edgeprod 01-12-2012 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18684105)
I dispute the continual ass kissing and claiming very bad is good. The best that can be done today? Without a doubt, spot on 100% correct, but that doesn't make it good.

The price of milk went up since 1950, too.

Mike Dutch 01-12-2012 11:47 AM

Who runs the banners on the hostedtubes? Is there any rev on those?

Ross 01-12-2012 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Dutch (Post 18684889)
Who runs the banners on the hostedtubes? Is there any rev on those?

Mike I left you a message on Skype. :thumbsup

PR_EZEKIEL 01-12-2012 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabien (Post 18684761)
1) I wanted to know if there's a possibility to add a trade script ?

2) Use an email (from the domain)
ex: [email protected]

You see, i got a couple of domains which i could turn into your tube thingo (i'm sure lots of others too would need this)

The functionality of a trade script is something we do plan on looking more into.
As far as emails go though, I think the best we'd do in that area is set it up so you can input an email that you'd like to show on your site. Allowing for a different mail record or providing email for the .com while it's hosted on our servers opens up a whole new can of worms.

HardlinkSells 01-12-2012 03:18 PM

8,443 Unique IPs
33,822 Impressions
3,863 Video Views

Raw 1289
Unique 714
Join 398

Sales 5

Last.update because this thread is shit now.

Meloman 01-12-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aric (Post 18683400)
Yep. You'll see XXX Match in your PimpRoll stats. (updated once a day)

Where cause I don't see it in my stats? I emailed PR support and they said that we do get credit but it's not listed in stats yet and will in the near future. No time frame mentioned.

What I'd like to know is if the sales are being batched and will show up later once the xxxmatch line is added?

nikki99 01-12-2012 04:03 PM

sales 0

:1orglaugh

Aric 01-12-2012 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meloman (Post 18685382)
Where cause I don't see it in my stats? I emailed PR support and they said that we do get credit but it's not listed in stats yet and will in the near future. No time frame mentioned.

What I'd like to know is if the sales are being batched and will show up later once the xxxmatch line is added?

They're compiled every night.

If you check your stats for December you'll see a sale on your account.

It appears XXXMatch stats only show if there's a sale.

Tomorrow I'll have my programmer make sure the traffic stats show up even if there's not a sale.

Jakez 01-12-2012 04:55 PM

Did you guys know that porn sold better when it was in magazines? And that the amount of free porn on the internet is hurting ratios?

Sorry for the bad news, but it's true! Someone here should make a point to get the word out in many threads, so everyone knows this stuff, it's pretty important info IMO.

Nicky 01-12-2012 09:49 PM

Ahhhh stfu Paul my ears are bleeding :helpme

Paul Markham 01-13-2012 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18684344)
Paul is just trying to live up to his GFY Troll of the Year title. Ignore him and maybe he'll just die off.

Literally.

The interesting thing is no one is saying that these are crap ratios. So is that because they are the norm for today?

Haven't updated them, so not included any changes.

12,902 Raw
2,774 join page
8 sales.

That's
1-346.75 converting from the join page. Is this normal for Tube traffic?)
1-1612.75 from the tour.
1-4.65 of tour hits going to the join page, now that's a very high ratio so check it for me please.

250,000 uniques, converts to 12,902 tour hits. 1-19.37 click a banner.

If so it makes a lot of things clearer to me.

Quote:

Did you guys know that porn sold better when it was in magazines? And that the amount of free porn on the internet is hurting ratios?

Sorry for the bad news, but it's true! Someone here should make a point to get the word out in many threads, so everyone knows this stuff, it's pretty important info IMO.
Well we didn't have 12,902 people leafing through magazines for 8 people to buy. If you think these ratios are good, bad, the norm, best show in town, only show in town, would love to hear why.

And that's all I question. All you guys praising a bro, without mentioning the obvious reason why these stats stink.

anexsia 01-13-2012 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18686014)
The interesting thing is no one is saying that these are crap ratios. So is that because they are the norm for today?

Haven't updated them, so not included any changes.

12,902 Raw
2,774 join page
8 sales.

That's
1-346.75 converting from the join page. Is this normal for Tube traffic?)
1-1612.75 from the tour.
1-4.65 of tour hits going to the join page, now that's a very high ratio so check it for me please.

250,000 uniques, converts to 12,902 tour hits. 1-19.37 click a banner.

If so it makes a lot of things clearer to me.



Well we didn't have 12,902 people leafing through magazines for 8 people to buy. If you think these ratios are good, bad, the norm, best show in town, only show in town, would love to hear why.

And that's all I question. All you guys praising a bro, without mentioning the obvious reason why these stats stink.

You're right about those ratios, they do suck...but if someone doesn't have the time to develop a parked domain I think it's better having a "Hosted Tube" on it that might snag some sales then just having a parked page or sending traffic that hasn't been converting to the hosted tube and maybe it will work there?

What would be your suggestions to get better conversion ratios in this day and age? What things as a sponsor would you do to tweak things or what new ideas would you do to help get better ratios?

DaddyHalbucks 01-13-2012 01:21 AM

So, what's considered a good ratio with HT?

1: 1500? 1:3000? 1:4500?

Brujah 01-13-2012 01:35 AM

The ratios should count on the sponsors side and not your bulk unfiltered traffic that the tube gets. If you switched an unused domain to a tube it'd probably start building traffic from seo and bookmarkers. If you try your domains, see if traffic starts to build the next month, and month after. At the very least if you decide to leave the hostedtube concept, you'll probably still get all that new traffic you've built up to those previously unused or parked domains.

Paul Markham 01-13-2012 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 18686033)
You're right about those ratios, they do suck...but if someone doesn't have the time to develop a parked domain I think it's better having a "Hosted Tube" on it that might snag some sales then just having a parked page or sending traffic that hasn't been converting to the hosted tube and maybe it will work there?

What would be your suggestions to get better conversion ratios in this day and age? What things as a sponsor would you do to tweak things or what new ideas would you do to help get better ratios?

Thank you for the intelligent reply.

What I would not do is teach more surfers that porn doesn't need to be bought, it's all free. I know it's late for that but, just an ethic and not practical.

If I had a parked domain that was unworked and getting the traffic these guys are claiming. I would work it. By just put a gallery onto the site, an advert for a site or an email catcher, etc. Or just redirect the traffic to a site they are working. Is that so hard?

The people reading and posting here are working the domain, by being here so have time. Roald is putting traffic into it he could sell. People have been talking about buying traffic or working the domain.

Whether worked or not. The same question applies. Are these ratios normal for Pimproll's Tube or Tube's in general? Because ultimately that's where it ends up, on a paysite of some sort and then to their join page. Are the conversions on the join page normal for all sites or just their sites?

No Brujah, people consuming porn should be counted. Once filtered another count, then how that performs. Keep checking performances. Because if you're getting 10,000 "unfiltered" traffic and 10 are going to a site. Then you see can the problem. The page isn't working, the link, banner, sample, etc. And solve the initial problem. Is 1-20 off a Tube site normal?

Meloman 01-13-2012 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aric (Post 18685448)
They're compiled every night.

If you check your stats for December you'll see a sale on your account.

It appears XXXMatch stats only show if there's a sale.

Tomorrow I'll have my programmer make sure the traffic stats show up even if there's not a sale.

Ah ok that makes sense then. I like seeing stats even if there's no sales this way I can tell if something is converting well or not. There's some sales on the paysites which surprised me. I figured it would all be dating,cams & premium sales.

So far this tool looks pretty cool with a lot of potential. I've moved over 200 parked domains so far. It's not a magical Hail Mary of instant SEO traffic, but it's definitely better than leaving a domain unused.

fris 01-13-2012 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18686014)
The interesting thing is no one is saying that these are crap ratios. So is that because they are the norm for today?

Haven't updated them, so not included any changes.

12,902 Raw
2,774 join page
8 sales.

That's
1-346.75 converting from the join page. Is this normal for Tube traffic?)
1-1612.75 from the tour.
1-4.65 of tour hits going to the join page, now that's a very high ratio so check it for me please.

250,000 uniques, converts to 12,902 tour hits. 1-19.37 click a banner.

If so it makes a lot of things clearer to me.



Well we didn't have 12,902 people leafing through magazines for 8 people to buy. If you think these ratios are good, bad, the norm, best show in town, only show in town, would love to hear why.

And that's all I question. All you guys praising a bro, without mentioning the obvious reason why these stats stink.

sure they are crap ratios, why dont you send traffic and show us stats?

crap ratios maybe, but they are the webmasters indivdual crap ratios.

send a test of say 20k uniques and see what your traffic converts as, every one is different.

20k is a pretty small test, might wanna go all the way to 50 or even 100k uniques.

porno jew 01-13-2012 10:51 AM

no one is going to reply to you because you don't understand the basics of internet marketing nor do you intend to do so. it is a waste of time. i just wasted time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18686014)
The interesting thing is no one is saying that these are crap ratios. So is that because they are the norm for today?

Haven't updated them, so not included any changes.

12,902 Raw
2,774 join page
8 sales.

That's
1-346.75 converting from the join page. Is this normal for Tube traffic?)
1-1612.75 from the tour.
1-4.65 of tour hits going to the join page, now that's a very high ratio so check it for me please.

250,000 uniques, converts to 12,902 tour hits. 1-19.37 click a banner.

If so it makes a lot of things clearer to me.



Well we didn't have 12,902 people leafing through magazines for 8 people to buy. If you think these ratios are good, bad, the norm, best show in town, only show in town, would love to hear why.

And that's all I question. All you guys praising a bro, without mentioning the obvious reason why these stats stink.



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