He's trying to use it to make the point that porn doesn't sell. Never mind that something is selling somewhere to justify ad purchases, he thinks we all just buy traffic and use it to sell traffic to someone that sells traffic to someone with nobody making money along the way.

Who knows?! This is exhausting to read however.

I've set one site up, but haven't puched any traffic to it yet. Nice layout and setup though.

i've tried changing the video length from full-length to three minutes a couple of days back but my tubes still show the full videos. - a bug?

I have been noticing some downtime and a long period of waiting for updates to be applied to the tubes sites when you change something in the admin since Friday.

I think they are working on some updates like traffic force integration and stuff.

contact me, i'll have a look for you, see what's up.

Guys, is it a bit slow on your end (loading) ?

Very slow here, not just you. Probably working on something.

cold canadians

We do no work what so ever, yet still get traffic on our 4 sites. So getting traffic from doing nothing. Can you explain how that's hard please?

Getting enough traffic as an affiliate to earn a decent living, well that today is hard. Think a bit harder, here's clue.

Is it hard to lift weights? No dead easy, I can lift a 10 pound weight anytime.

Is it hard to lift a 200 pound weight? Bloody well impossible for me. :1orglaugh

The clue is in the size of the weight. 1 person is traffic, 1,000 is traffic, 10,000 is traffic, 100,000 and so it goes on. I see people posting all the time they would love to convert 1-10,000 with a million surfers. Their problem is they're converting 1-10,000 with 100,000. Getting the million mark is tough. Have those people got no traffic?

The Tube from PR shows how easy it is to get traffic and how much you need to get a sale. Now if you want to discuss how hard it is to get a sale, then fine. But give up on the traffic thing. You're wrong.

So getting shitty traffic is hard or easy? Is it not traffic if it's shitty? :thumbsup

No you guys are missing the point. Those quarter of a million people on that free Tube are porn consumers you're teaching not to buy porn. And trying to scrape a few dollars from by selling traffic. Is teaching surfers not to buy self defeating or not?

Also the level of what some of you have earned is like so pitiful. If you think earning a few bucks is great, then the difference between you and me is obvious.

No my point is so many seem to be happy to give up a lot of traffic to send to PR for so little return it's shocking. Why not stick a redirect onto the domain, an hours or 2 work and send the traffic to their premium site?

I understand people are doing nothing to very little to get the traffic and this proves Roald wrong, it is easy to get traffic. Still if this is the best they can do with the traffic, then that's sad.

PR, well if the best they can do to generate the traffic to sell ad space with their content. Then fine, it's their content, they paid for it and this is the best way they can earn money from it.

If this is a glimpse of the future, then maybe after the pirates are squeezed I can turn my paysites into Tubes and sell the traffic to you. At the moment we're probably doing better than the ratios hare with our traffic. That I do nothing to get. :thumbsup

Maybe you will have to buy content or the price of ad space will reflect the cost of the content generating the traffic. :thumbsup

you are getting old Paul, took you 2 weeks to come up with that?

You know nothing about traffic or ratios. You know a little about shooting content yes but in todays world your content would not survive 1 bit.

have fun writing walls of text again!!!

Back to the original topic, using a few parked domains that were with Bodis before, my numbers are:

Unique IPs: 1,028
Pageviews: 7,382
Video Views: 2,250
Joins: 0


*shrug* I'll rather leave it with hostedtube than generate $5 with Bodis lol, at least I can see that things are actually growing with hostedtube - so people must either share it or bookmark it, I can't be assed to put on any real tracking atm.

Also I did little in terms of making the tubes look good, write texts, just a template and a title at this point.

Paul, you really shouldn't worry so much about people who make more in a day than you do in a year. Really.

I know traffic is easy to get, the problem is getting enough to make a sign up.

I can also read more into these stats than anyone so far. In fact anyone with a little skill reading stats and ratios, then thinking logically will come to the same conclusion.

I also know that we made more than DF ever will. When we wanted a CMS, we employed programers to write one, when we wanted another one, we employed a programmer to write another one. Didn't go around asking advice on GFY what was the best. We created what was best for us.

Roald, will give everyone 30 minutes to read the most obvious thing into these ratios.

I'm off to copy a hard drive for another blow out. Whoopy doody, doo, $3,000 for doing nothing much.

You know nothing about traffic or ratios. :2 cents:

another thread ruined by markham.

and that hard drive is the summary and pinnacle of your life's work. sad.

another Paul M is a fuckwit thread

Unique IPs: 4,723
Pageviews: 22,503
Video Views: 7,839
Joins: 0

anyone that wants to talk conversion strategy or fine tuning their tubes hit me up on icq.

People actually still buy your 80's crap? Is 12clicks on a shopping spree?

Paul knows everything about everything. He's a real playa.

Earlier stats but I don't see any improvement.

OK this is obvious what the ratios show. Getting 100,000 of surfers to look at free porn is easy. Unless all these people are doing a lot of work for nothing.

Only 5% chose to go look at the site. Still with this massive amount of traffic it's not so bad. The rest is awful.

1-346 convert on the join page. 0.33%

That tells me after going through the tour and PR doing their very best to convert them, 99.33% chose to stick with the free tube content. PR with their great content, great skills, experience and all the other things these wonderful guys are. Lose 99.33% from their join page.

so to keep the free tube working and clutching straws. They will sell the traffic. Affiliates will be earning $1, $2 per 1,000 uniques. Or will they be earning $30 per 1,000?

So educate us all and explain what's good about that please.

I'm off to watch TV. :thumbsup

Nurgle tell me what's wrong with my ratios and stats reading please.

What I do know is all we have is a difference of opinion. What others think of as good, I see as bloody awful. Unless you think close to 13,000 going to a site and only 8 buying is good today.

I understand it didn't take any work, didn't cost the affiliates any money, cost PR a pretty penny though and it might be the best game we have these days. Still doesn't make a join page converting at 1-346.75 good.

Glen is offering advice on fine tuning the Tubes. Well I think he should work harder at fine tuning his tour and join page. Because it simply isn't good enough, unless he thinks these ratios are good. Now he's asking people to work on fine tuning the Tubes, is that going to mean actually doing some work?

One of the favorite phrases show the level of some.

"I would rather have 1 million a day converting at 1-10,000 than .........."

The problem is getting 1 million with 100s of others trying to get a million as well. All leap frogging each other by giving away content. 1-10,000 they probably have already. :1orglaugh

Now rather than inane 1 liners, come back with logic.

paul, please shut the fuck up.
Back to stats. Mine are terrible so far.

to be blunt pimproll's ratios have been terrible for awhile now. i'm talking search traffic to a landing page.

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I love this place.

Great conversation. We signed up after reading everyones input to try it out. We had a bunch of domains sitting around that we wanted to try and send some traffic too. It is easy to set up and customize.

8,164 24,759 4,116
0$

But it's domains doin' shit so...
(Parked, whatever)

Sites are growing in numbers, we'll see.

Got a few more setup during lunch (totaling 20). Now I just need some traffic. I'll take my 100K hits to www.nastiest.com please :winkwink:

I'm not surprised...nothing against Pimp Roll but in today's market, their sites all look kinda cookie-cutter like. But at least with stuff like Hosted Tube, they're trying new things out.

Some of our paysites convert better than others depending on what type of traffic you have. We have alternate tours for many of our paysites that are being very underutilized by webmasters.

For anyone interested in some of our alternate tours or tips on how to convert your traffic to Pimproll better, please contact us.

We're also working on fresh, way out of the box, completely non-cookie cutter designs to help convert tube, search and all other types of traffic.

Stay tuned.

I agree :2 cents:

You are totally fucked up Paul!

The only easy traffic YOU can get is by taking the highway at rush hour....

You have been debating traffic since I've known you, and you are still clueless.......

GOD! :1orglaugh

Yes they do. :thumbsup

The good thing is I was able to sell loads in the 80s, 90s, 2000s enough to site back and watch all you kids scrape a living together. What will your next career be in?

Paul, I have no issue with you and I'm glad that you are able to enjoy the fruits of your labor, but please don't make the mistake of comparing today's business model with that of 20, 10, or even 2 years ago.

I for one would love to see you (publicly) start something from scratch today and see if you could make it work ... just for shits and giggles. I'm sure it would shut a lot of people up. :)

But he couldn't do that 5 years ago when it was easy.

And Paul, my next career will be selling all Paul Markham content for $5 once it hits the public domain. Judging by how dated the images and videos look I'd guess that's in 2 or 3 more years. :1orglaugh

Corrected.

Paul, you act as if the last few years haven't happened. You can't put the shit back into the horse - the vast majority of the web now only gets free porn.

Well i must admit the same. The sites don't look good at all and they look like if they were made in the late 90's (most of them)
They should revamp the hole thing.

So I also tried to use one domain for this thing, we will see how it goes :) One thing I noticed - obviously I picked bad categories for the start as I wanted to quickly see a result and now it tells me I have to contact support in order to chane niches?

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No, but he paid someone to develop his own CMS, twice.

Check out astral blue. It's cool. All the buttons are the same and stuff. Who needs pornCMS or elevated x or whatever when you can pay someone to make something like that.

Stop mocking him.

Do you not remember his huge success with $5 porn sites?

He's already beaten you to it man. He is ahead of the game.

nice clean modern tube tours would be nice.

Well it seems for someone who's clueless I'm not losing 99.6% of the people on my join page and offering advice to others to improve their ratios.

I thought all this traffic was "easy" traffic to get or are you now saying people are working to get this traffic?

At last someone who admits to the real problem. :thumbsup

These might be great ratios for today still makes them shit ratios. While these clowns make fun of me, I rose at 8.30, sat and watched the TV for an hour, took the dog for a walk with Eva and had mugs of hot chocolate when we got home. Then I decided to see what the great minds of the porn traffic game were hard at work doing. :1orglaugh

Will check the sites, then go and have a snack, might read some, do some of my jigsaw before cooking lunch.

And there was one other thing Eva and I did today, but not telling you guys. You're too busy throwing more free content to porn consumers. :thumbsup

One feature suggestion - add an option to handle 404, as many are putting this on unused or old domains, there will be plenty of 404 errors, so Id be glad to have the option to handle it somehow, either 301 redirect to root or something like that ...