Maybe copying my idea and changing the cost of membership to $5 for 5 days, for this traffic will have a far better affect. Seems to me if I was losing 99.6% of the surfers on the join page I would be fixing that first.

Astral Blue does a lot better with a shitty tour, no work on traffic by me and me being an idiot. :thumbsup

I'm so glad when porn was a little backwater industry I was able to make enough money to retire. Thankfully I got in before you clever brainy people took it over. :1orglaugh

The tour is fine if the high ratio reported are going to look at the join page. There's the obvious problem to fix first. Even I can see the tour works fine, 1-5 of those who took the tour, went to the join page. Yet when the get to there they clearly don't like something and leave.

Stocktrader, glad you saw our company accounts 5 years ago. When we employed 8 people.

Paul, if basically everyone tells you you are an idiot is there really not even a second in a day that you might consider the fact that they are right and you are wrong? Or do you really think you are THAT special?! That everyone is wrong and you are right?

Paul we love you man but you will never out argue everyone, I hope you realize that.

No the business model has changed 180 degrees. in 1991 we had far less traffic and made far more money. The turn over porn shops made would show most here how the online porn game has gutted porn totally. There's still some money left in the retail end of offline porn, research Ann Summers and Beate Uhste to see what they still can make today. Then imagine what was made 10, 20 years ago. I know personally that porn shops were extremely lucrative in the 60s.

I'm not able to work properly, yet I did shoot a scene last year that even though I was in no condition to do so, gets very high scores from surfers. There was also a BG scene I shot of a guy with 2 girls and again high scores and lots of positive results.

The problem today is this total focus on driving traffic as if that will solve the problem. The definition of madness is trying the same thing that isn't working over and over again in the hope it will work. We know that giving away free porn isn't working long term, we see here it isn't working shot term. There are millions of porn consumers who have no intention of paying for what is being offered.

There are two option. Give up selling pre recorded porn, not today but plan that into your future. Or change what you offer.

Are Met Art turning a premium porn domain into a free porn tube?

It's not cookie cutter tours that are the problem, it's cookie cutter porn. With people thinking the key to the quality of the porn is the date shot of definition of the image. Churning out cookie cutter porn has done more damage than people imagine.

It's obvious the business model of giving away porn for free, leave a market for selling the porn devastated and leads to being nothing but traffic sellers to what little is left Webcam and Dating. Maybe when the surfers realise that paying for webcam and dating is a foolish as paying for porn, the traffic market will implode. Yes there's free options now, which are hurting. Still what are the stats showing on conversion and traffic rates for these sectors?

While you are turning the thread into bashing me, the real problem isn't being addressed. PR must love me. :thumbsup

Totally, I am glad you understand. :thumbsup

I still think paul is fucking around with all of us. I just don't think anyone could be so persistent at being dumb.

Why don't you just answer me?

Paul can you please get the fuck out of this thread and brag in some other? This is not about how easy traffic is or isnt to get, this is about hostedtube and peoples experience with it, there were several good replies but they are hard to find because of the shit you have to fill this thread with. I posted two suggestions myself already and would like some staff member to note them and reply, which will not happen if yuo type another page of crap. So please stop.

thank you. but he is narcissistic and only cares about himself. he can't see that people don't want his useless nonsense shitting up every thread. it's both sad and pathetic.

Yes, throwing traffic at a site that clearly isn't converting without solving the problem is clearly madness.

Throwing traffic at a join page that has more hols than a sieve isn't madness, it's sheer stupidity.

DF, I don't answer you because I don't think you're worth answering and it won't stop your babbling.

matuloo the first solution is simple. Fix the join page. Any join page that converts less than 1% of any traffic is shite. Throwing more traffic be it 404 or traffic plucked out of the air is useless. It's clear to everyone that the join page is the biggest problem. Heaping more traffic onto the problem isn't going to fix anything.

Then look at the sites in terms of selling and not landing traffic on it. That needs a man who knows content, not a man who knows how to direct more traffic to a problem. I looked at porn.com a premier porn domain, it's aiming at sending traffic elsewhere. When I clicked to watch a MILF scene, it showed me a lesbian teen site. :upsidedow

Now even this dim wit knows that's wrong filtering and targeting. Put a MILF site up where the scene came from if you really want to convert it. If that's the work PR are going to do with your traffic, 404 or what ever. Keep it and work it properly yourself.

he was telling you to STOP POSTING because it's impossible to find anything in a business thread FILLED WITH YOUR NONSENSE god man go walk your puzzle.

Yes Paul, you missed what I said, please let this thread be related to the hosting tube and not your traffic theories. Its a starting project, now they are completely changing the ad system so everything you posted regarding the paysites and their ratios is useless now even if it had some value, which it didnt. I understand you are an old man (no offence) and have plenty of time so you got to fill it with something. But GFY has tons of bs threads, so go fill them with more bs and let the rare biz threads alone. Thanks.

Hahaha thats the exact same reason why I am not replying to you :1orglaugh

sorry if we missed anything in there, hit me up directly and lets see what we can do for you.

I mentioned two things - the need to contact support to change tube niches, that could be automatic too... and something to handle 404 traffic as on old domains there is plenty of it, so maybe some 301 redirect to root or something would be nice as the current 404 page isnt too catchy.

So if a surfer opens a MILF scene, the advert there won't be to a teen porn site. :thumbsup

Good to see you guys helping PR get this working right. :thumbsup

Will it now be a tube to send traffic only to traffic/ad buyers or will it still go to a PR site?

We kept the niche changes internal to help avoid people choosing niches that only have limited content originally, but now that we lowered the cap and that some webmasters aren't concerned about the lower amount of vids this is something that we may revisit. In the mean time if you hit me up on icq it takes seconds for me to switch over, and i'm around at least 10 hours a day normally.

I'll mention to our designers about the 404 pages. They seem to be bringing up random videos at the moment, maybe a list of categories with thumbs may be a better land there.

something is wrong with you.

paul is the man

What Snoop says abut respectin' our elders, paraphrased:

"They better leave [him] the f**k alone why are the f**king with [him]," Snoop Dogg told TMZ. "Sometimes y'all need to back up off certain people and have a certain amount of respect for your elders. He's somebody who lived through many decades of the business, and hard times. Give him that respect."

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I'm not sure I see it, but Calvin Broadus is waaaaaaaaaaaay richer than me.

Unique IPs: 3,961
Impressions: 16,295
Video Views: 3,985

Sales: 0 (768 joinhits)

Ad Revenue $0.50

Cannot disable Trafficforce :(
Hope ill see some sales fast because these typein traffic domains do a few bucks a day on parking..

I looked at the tube on porn.com and I never saw ads for PR. So asked.

The ad for a teen lesbian site did come up when I looked at a MILF scene. If this is good marketing, you're an Arab.

About what I expected. How many days has this been?

This is from a domain I registered but have done NOTHING with, no trades and haven't sent any traffic to:

Unique IPs: 69
Pageviews: 154
Video Views: 32

Ad Revenue: $0.02

Email Glen, if you REALLY want Traffic Force ads off your tube we'll do it for you.

From 90ish% SE traffic so far on one hosted tube with barely any video titles/descr changed:

Unique IPs: 10,776
Pageviews: 88.610
Video Views: 50,658

Ad Revenue: $2.49

Unique IPs 2781
Pageviews 11,062
Video Views 3,877
Ad Revenue $0.03

If this is the Tube that will be used for this project https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1057452 we have a problem.

Affiliates will not be using it for such a minimal return.

This week:

Unique IPs 9,477
Pageviews 44,681
Video Views 11,187
Ad Revenue $6.33

No referrals yet, sites been up about 2months

i still dont have any sales

wow i be rich

Site Unique IPs Pageviews Video Views Ad Revenue
Totals 785 5,325 2,297 $0.41
***********.com (edit) 417 3,877 1,860 $0.36
***********.com (edit) 262 989 274 $0.00
***********.com (edit) 106 459 163 $0.05
Totals 785 5,325 2,297 $0.41

:)

Totals 6,154 27,379 9,002 $1.67

BUT, im only using it as a tool to build a bit of traffic on the domains, some have picked up others didnt, im not doing any link trading atm, so this is purely organic traffic.

ok, i just finished making one, let's see how it works out...

I put my new domains in there till I am ready to develop, I have about 80 in there I think, no trades that I know of, unless there are some backlinks from former owners or whatever.

Here's my total for the month.

14,846 69,883 29,831 $6.74

It seems there is no payout for impressions on gay domains, which is a shame as I have a few gay domains in there that could be making some money.

BBW niche seems to get the highest payout per unique.

I have two gay domains there myself. Just be sure you're showing the max 80% PR ads and 20% TF. That's the best we can do for now, I suppose.

anyone else seeing errors with certain themes only showing the "Now Playing" content block at the moment?

Random stats update for one tube:

Uniques: 244,376 Page Views: 1,352,347 Video Views: 476,087 $239.24

That's not horrible by any means. :) But with your own tube properly monetized you should have been able to make more than that just by selling the mobile visitors and the popunders alone. Any other traffic sales, CPC ads, pay site sales would have been a bonus on top of that. $500 to $1000 would have been easily attainable with little risk. That's why I tend to think it's a bad deal unless you don't have another choice. If you have so many domains you cant develop them all then something is better than nothing.

Yeah, I'm just in the dark when it comes to tubes.. I'm mostly into blogging and SEO :upsidedow

1,249,595 3,010,125 121,464 $37.59
stats from 2012-01-01 -> 2012-05-27

Did you get any PR ad/ premium or Livecam sales? Because I added those on my stats too.. :upsidedow

:Oh crap

Numbers for 2012 on my hosted tubes:

Site Unique IPs Pageviews Video Views Ad Revenue
Totals 89,503 652,450 234,581 $51.95

Not bad for parking, though I wish I was able to sell the mobile visitors :)

have no idea, isn't everything shown in the hosted-tube stats?

Unique: 623 Pageviews: 3,188 Videoviews: 1,117 Ad revenue: $0.13
This is on two parked domains.

Seeing all the figures in this thread isn't telling you anything?

What is it telling?

For all the people posting stats, are you showing the full-lengh videos or the shorter clips? I've changed all mine to show no more than 3 minutes to see if that helps.

That Paul doesn't understand the online porn industry?