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roganoli 06-25-2012 05:12 PM

Traffic is good but no sales yet on my tube site...

Paul Markham 06-25-2012 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 19023570)
Conversion rate means nothing when you have mass amounts of traffic and is way too vague since a lot of people don't know how to fucking 'sell' or even how to use the hosted tubes effectively. I just have a few and are doing much better than some people with 100s of them...

If I have 100 uniques converting at 1:100, that is way worse that having 1,000,000 uniques converting at 1:5,000..

Plus every single hosted tube is going to have a different return visitor rate.. :Oh crap

I'm pretty sure your crap isn't doing as well because it's outdated, not because it's oversaturated. Big difference..

You seem to contradict yourself there. The only word anyone needs to read is IF.

If you had brains you wouldn't make stupid posts.

Yes every free site is sticky, with people realising paying for porn is a mugs game. So let's give them more free porn. :upsidedow

Yes my porn is outdated. It's the type of porn that used to earn money in section of the porn industry not stupid enough to give it away for free.

The problem with his thinking is. converting 1-100 on 1,000,000 surfers is way better than converting 1-5,000 on 1,000,000 surfers.

Giving away free porn is easy and eventually everyone was doing it and the 200,000,000 surfers coming to get there daily dose of free unlimited porn were converting at 1-5,000 instead of 1-100.

The belief that the more free porn you gave away the more your earned has led to an industry that now sells clicks at the prices we see in this thread. People consuming free porn make awful porn customers.

BigPinPin 06-25-2012 11:51 PM

Hey free porn supporters... I got the next big chance for you.... I call it "selling tons of sands in the desert"....what do you think? Great idea, hm? :helpme

WTF happend to this industry....

Paul Markham 06-26-2012 12:13 AM

IF only this wasn't the reality.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald
Yesterday:
13,781 Unique IPs
39,182 Impressions
20,792 Video Views

Raw 1319
Unique 797
Join 238
Sales 0

Traffic is way too low to expect any real sales imo

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18682688&postcount=42

Quote:

223719 uniques
3 sales.

1-74573
1-74,543 surfers who like to view porn so much they click on links earns 3 sales. :1orglaugh

BigPinPin I'm selling snowballs in the Artic. Expecting a big rush.

The sad thing is if you read this thread people are continually making excuses, explaining why this is good. Without realising the harm this does. Just another step to the eventual decline to a tiny industry where only scraps will be left.

BigPinPin 06-26-2012 12:50 AM

Quote:

13,781 Unique IPs
39,182 Impressions
20,792 Video Views

Raw 1319
Unique 797
Join 238
Sales 0
If I would have posted anything like that 3-4 years ago....people would make the same stupid jokes as they do now about free porn and piracy and telling that those numbers are impossible.....your site sucks, they rip you off for sure or whatever.

Well....do they rip your ass off??? NO, that's the general fucked up industry right now in 2012!!! Great, isn*t it?

Paul Markham 06-26-2012 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigPinPin (Post 19024477)
If I would have posted anything like that 3-4 years ago....people would make the same stupid jokes as they do now about free porn and piracy and telling that those numbers are impossible.....your site sucks, they rip you off for sure or whatever.

Well....do they rip your ass off??? NO, that's the general fucked up industry right now in 2012!!! Great, isn*t it?

A lot of the posters on GFY are brown nosing the bros. Pimproll is a bro so he can do no wrong. I'm not and can do no right.

Back in the day when we didn't give it all away I had a great idea of a site with rotating TGP galleries. Those who put it on their unused domains did well, we used it ourselves when galleries were good enough. When I brought the idea to the boards it was rubbished because I'm no bro.

http://www.paulmarkhamcash.com/affiliates/fhs/

A lot of trolls lost out because they couldn't think outside their small boxes.

And ultimately that's the problem with online porn. Few would make it any other business. Even some of the big guys are incredibly narrow minded when it comes to real business and marketing. For instance a site full of content that not every clown can shoot will always outsell a site with content any clown can shoot.

So why not do it?

Content is a long term investment and traffic isn't. Because to launch a site with great content will cost money up front. Shooters who can produce go to where the pay is best, not the worse. Sometimes it's impossible to bang out lots of great content in a day. Often it takes more than a girl on a sofa to set the scene. All this has to be done before a penny is taken in.

Traffic on the other hand needs a few pages on a tour and affiliates area. Content comes from what the site has, few shoot specific content for selling even though the aim of each one is different. Then programs have to be bought or wrote. Writing is a cost but nowhere near the cost of the content. Then marketing to affiliates.

Even with great content setting up the affiliate side has to be done.

Paul Markham 06-26-2012 02:41 AM

So we all know a site with great content will convert and retain better. The only problem for affiliates is they're often saturated with people promoting them. Not a problem for the site owners.

You would think with all the mega rich site owners more would of had the intelligence to realise this. Still if you don't have the inhouse shooter who can create the content, it's expensive.

Solo girl $1,000 and up
Lesbian $2,000 and up
BG $4,000 and up

In fact up a lot. Still you have the chance of selling this content offline and this could in the long term pay for production.

Yet think what it would cost to launch a site of 100 solo girl scenes for $1,000 a scene. Not because a custom shooter can shoot it cheaper. Because a custom shooter can't sell his work for more. That's a huge upfront investment.

Then there's the sites who couldn't even afford to get someone to shoot for them and decided to do it themselves.

So the sites made traffic king because that was all they could afford. Affiliates were over paid and they have nothing but traffic to send, so traffic became their king. Both new once the surfer landed on the samples, it was those samples that impressed him enough to click on a link, same on the tour and same on staying a member.

Yet they would tell you it was the design, words in a banner, text, anything but what gets a dick hard. Because they couldn't go that route.

Those who want to tell me this isn't so for the vast majority can also explain why online content is mostly crap, doesn't sell offline very well and why the big bros didn't up their content game. Logically please.

KLAN 12-01-2012 09:49 AM

So far .....
Unique IPs 125,011
Pageviews 721,214
Video Views 445,145
Sales 3

Colmike9 12-01-2012 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KLAN (Post 19341545)
So far .....
Unique IPs 125,011
Pageviews 721,214
Video Views 445,145
Sales 3

One of mine that I set up and didn't touch:
Unique IP: 575,550
Pageviews: 3,316,091
Video Views: 1,068,824
22 sales
$161.83 CPC money

Colmike9 12-01-2012 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19024407)
You seem to contradict yourself there. The only word anyone needs to read is IF.

If you had brains you wouldn't make stupid posts.

Yes every free site is sticky, with people realising paying for porn is a mugs game. So let's give them more free porn. :upsidedow

Yes my porn is outdated. It's the type of porn that used to earn money in section of the porn industry not stupid enough to give it away for free.

The problem with his thinking is. converting 1-100 on 1,000,000 surfers is way better than converting 1-5,000 on 1,000,000 surfers.

Giving away free porn is easy and eventually everyone was doing it and the 200,000,000 surfers coming to get there daily dose of free unlimited porn were converting at 1-5,000 instead of 1-100.

The belief that the more free porn you gave away the more your earned has led to an industry that now sells clicks at the prices we see in this thread. People consuming free porn make awful porn customers.

Are you still alive?

madtwin 12-01-2012 01:13 PM

My stats (4 hosted tubes):

Unique IPs - 318,035
Pageviews - 2,569,683
Video Views - 740,288
Ad Revenue - $206.53
Sales - 9 ($180.00)

Total - $386.53

Dirty F 12-01-2012 02:07 PM

This thread is hilarious.

KLAN 12-01-2012 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 19341802)
One of mine that I set up and didn't touch:
Unique IP: 575,550
Pageviews: 3,316,091
Video Views: 1,068,824
22 sales
$161.83 CPC money

Nice! gratz!:thumbsup

ghiocmarius 03-31-2013 06:49 AM

My stats for yesterday 03/30/2013
 
http://i47.tinypic.com/33219tu.jpgwhat is this ..... :mad:

skrog 03-31-2013 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghiocmarius (Post 19553984)
http://i47.tinypic.com/33219tu.jpgwhat is this ..... :mad:

Yeah. They are still working the "bugs" out. :(

Chris 03-31-2013 07:26 AM

not even remotely close enough to give an answer but i left a domain on it for a day.
http://cl.ly/NxxC/Screen%20Shot%2020...28.18%20AM.png

nvaonline 03-31-2013 08:12 AM

since i started using Hostedtube;

Unique IPs Pageviews Video Views Ad Revenue
Totals 1,517,269 8,856,835 3,195,294 $573.66

Total Initial Sales - - - - - $867.20
Partnership Rebills - - - - - $1015.13

(40 sales)

skrog 03-31-2013 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nvaonline (Post 19554043)
since i started using Hostedtube;

Unique IPs Pageviews Video Views Ad Revenue
Totals 1,517,269 8,856,835 3,195,294 $573.66

Total Initial Sales - - - - - $867.20
Partnership Rebills - - - - - $1015.13

(40 sales)

What kind of traffic is that? I can get the people to my tube. Just no one willing to sign up as of yet. :(

nvaonline 03-31-2013 02:44 PM

@skrog; what do yo mean, i think this revenue is not so good.

2 domains of mine who are doing good on this are whitebooty.com and teenpornmovies.com

PR_Glen 03-31-2013 05:34 PM

why are we bumping year old threads?

ErectMedia 03-31-2013 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19554538)
why are we bumping year old threads?

to bring Paul Markham wisdom back :question

signupdamnit 03-31-2013 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19554538)
why are we bumping year old threads?

Why do so many of the PR rep replies often come off as assholish?

PornoMonster 03-31-2013 10:43 PM

1:111335 $22

Hummmm


I must of set it up some where, says all traffic going to traffic force...

EriktheRabbit 03-31-2013 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19554538)
why are we bumping year old threads?

We are making sooooooooooooo much money with you guys, just want to shout it out!:1orglaugh

EriktheRabbit 03-31-2013 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19554748)
Why do so many of the PR rep replies often come off as assholish?

Assholism...Its what they do.:2 cents:


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