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Hentaikid 01-14-2012 05:06 AM

FWIW even if sopa hasn't been approved yet, most payment processors have clauses about copyright in their user agreements, so it makes sense to tell the processor it's billing for a pirate.

SOPA hasn't really invented anything new

denny007 01-14-2012 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hentaikid (Post 18688215)
FWIW even if sopa hasn't been approved yet, most payment processors have clauses about copyright in their user agreements, so it makes sense to tell the processor it's billing for a pirate.

SOPA hasn't really invented anything new

I would agree with contacting billing processor is a good idea.
But to look for a contact in domain whois ? Thats really something odd...like try contact Paypal via email from whois - no chance...

gideongallery 01-14-2012 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hentaikid (Post 18688215)
FWIW even if sopa hasn't been approved yet, most payment processors have clauses about copyright in their user agreements, so it makes sense to tell the processor it's billing for a pirate.

SOPA hasn't really invented anything new

telling them yes, sending a DMCA notice to them absolutely no.

Billing processors are not covered by the DMCA, neither are search engines links for NON US sites.

everyone who has been doing either of those takedowns has been abusing the DMCA.

That the problem if people followed the law, SOPA not an issue, it really nothing more then what your abusively doing now anyway.

IT the expected abuse of the law i am worried about which is why i want the punishment for abusing the law to be as serious as the punishment for abusing copyright.

candyflip 01-14-2012 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 18687826)
We don't want the role of representing an industry hell bent on destroying itself. We've been screwed just as much as everyone else getting ripped off, I assure you that. Just look at this train wreck of a thread this is. Here I am, once again, clarifying an email sent to the wrong person (only one time I might add) and the fake nicks are rock hard beating off at the opportunity to hate. Let them... They're 5 years too late. There are multiple copy-cat companies submitting thousands of legit links for removal, to google, kicking just about everything but piracy out and I have someone in here correcting my spelling. Oh... and we are down a person, if you didn't know (there's another thread about that below), so that might have something to do with the attitude.. sorry if I am not so 'service with a smile' today. I have my reasons.

Most assholes make excuses to justify their behavior. Go fuck yourself.

candyflip 01-14-2012 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by denny007 (Post 18688120)
I know this guy from Ohio, america born, and he writes much worse than me :)

Now is it the word "ignorancy" (should be ignorance) or something worse ?

Don't mind Garce. Three days ago he was posting cryptic suicide messages on the board. Looks like we're still stuck with him as he didn't follow through.

And Paul Markham saying you're to blame. He just likes to see and hear himself speak.

EukerVoorn 01-14-2012 06:22 AM

Can everybody please stop repeating themselves in this thread? Saying it once is more than enough.
Summary: Eric sent mail to wrong person and Zombaio is processing for content thieves.

Dirty Dane 01-14-2012 06:31 AM

Cybersquat aimed at wrong typos complains about wrong typos. Priceless. :1orglaugh

At least a good thing you didn't register al-qeada.org :thumbsup

Fletch XXX 01-14-2012 06:39 AM

seriously. i am going to start a DMCA protection service that goes after those who send bogus DMCA. these people should be fined and pay court costs +

anyone wanna be first client?

my brother is a becoming lawyer so im steering him toward adult law :)

denny007 01-14-2012 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 18688261)
Cybersquat aimed at wrong typos complains about wrong typos. Priceless. :1orglaugh

At least a good thing you didn't register al-qeada.org :thumbsup

Again - I am PAYING for all my domains hence I am not squatting anything:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatting

Dirty Dane 01-14-2012 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by denny007 (Post 18688287)
Again - I am PAYING for all my domains hence I am not squatting anything:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatting

".. or otherwise have permission to use"

So, paying is not the issue. Your domain is a typo of zombaio.com .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber_squatting

RycEric 01-14-2012 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18688266)
seriously. i am going to start a DMCA protection service that goes after those who send bogus DMCA. these people should be fined and pay court costs +

anyone wanna be first client?

my brother is a becoming lawyer so im steering him toward adult law :)

Nothing bogus about this notice though. In addition, there are no damages other than inconvenience. You'd be better off spent making a service that goes after spammers and in that case I'd spend money on that. There is no "adult law" (perhaps there should be though) and by the time he finishes the bar, he may have no candidate clients left. He can then thank those folks who are to bear the true fault..... billing companies and hosts who cater to pirates.

candyflip 01-14-2012 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 18688318)
".. or otherwise have permission to use"

So, paying is not the issue. Your domain is a typo of zombaio.com .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber_squatting

He mentioned that his domain purchases are sometimes automatic, or something to that sort.

Zombaio is a made up fucking word. Who's to say their's isn't a typo of his.

Just sayin'.

Fletch XXX 01-14-2012 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 18688323)
Nothing bogus about this notice though. In addition, there are no damages other than inconvenience. You'd be better off spent making a service that goes after spammers and in that case I'd spend money on that. There is no "adult law" (perhaps there should be though) and by the time he finishes the bar, he may have no candidate clients left. He can then thank those some of those folks who are to bear the true fault..... billing companies and hosts who cater to pirates.

nope. too many people with no law education jumping in the DMCA biz, Dont see why we cant LOL

you got idiots copy pasting DMCA every day and its time someone goes after them. Even google admits over 50% of DMCA notices are bogus.

And section 512f shows we have the right to pursue damages and court costs.

cha-ching $$$

RycEric 01-14-2012 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18688326)
nope. too many people with no law education jumping in the DMCA biz, Dont see why we cant LOL

you got idiots copy pasting DMCA every day and its time someone goes after them. Even google admits over 50% of DMCA notices are bogus.

And section 512f shows we have the right to pursue damages and court costs.

cha-ching $$$

Well.. good luck on that. Your easiest targets would be those who don't have good counsel or maintain liability insurance to cover those sort of claims already.

Dirty Dane 01-14-2012 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18688324)
Zombaio is a made up fucking word. Who's to say their's isn't a typo of his.

The domain zombaio.com was registered first and made up words are more unique.

I don't really care how and why, I'm just saying it's ironic if things like this happens. Typo-karma :upsidedow

Fletch XXX 01-14-2012 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 18688338)
Well.. good luck on that. Your easiest targets would be those who don't have good counsel or maintain liability insurance to cover those sort of claims already.

well, to be honest, i have my hands full and can only imagine the legal details of starting a law office (which is why i laugh at those who send out dmca all day with no education) hahah... are you a lawyer or you just send out DMCA? , but I steered my brother to his first business: Spacewalk Bounce house and slide biz" and he made tens of thousands by second summer. Weve talked about adult law related topics and he is always interested in what I have to say as older brother. he is like my little entrepeneur project heheh

:thumbsup

CultLeader 01-14-2012 07:53 AM

denny007 is one handsome looking dude. :thumbsup

RycEric 01-14-2012 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18688342)
hahah... are you a lawyer or you just send out DMCA? , but I steered my brother to his first business: Spacewalk Bounce house and slide biz" and he made tens of thousands by second summer. Weve talked about adult law related topics and he is always interested in what I have to say as older brother. he is like my little entrepeneur project heheh

:thumbsup

I am not a lawyer, however, there are a ton of tube and torrent sites gunning for adult representation now and a few industry attorneys are only happy to help them out. Maybe that's the new trend in adult law now. Also, you are correct about the google statement and since they themselves made a DMCA template that anyone with an internet connection can use, you can always count on notices such as these. It took less than 30 seconds to find.
http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca5...oticeID=180138

Dirty Dane 01-14-2012 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18687497)
really biller are not covered by DMCA because they don't actually host any of the infringing content.

Once again you are wrong. A domain is not the same as a service.

RycEric 01-14-2012 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 18688417)
Once again you are wrong. A domain is not the same as a service.

More theft. Trademark infringement used in commerce as well. They didn't even change the dvd cover art.. straight jacked.

http://www.adultsourcemedia.com/prod...ion.html?id=59

http://www.removeyourcontent.com/temp/evhcw2.jpg

http://www.removeyourcontent.com/temp/tmasm.jpg

travs 01-14-2012 09:37 AM

i'm loving this thread

RycEric 01-14-2012 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travs (Post 18688441)
i'm loving this thread

:winkwink: Keeping the red arrow tradition alive.

http://www.removeyourcontent.com/temp/infringement.jpg

gideongallery 01-14-2012 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 18688429)
More theft. Trademark infringement used in commerce as well. They didn't even change the dvd cover art.. straight jacked.

http://www.adultsourcemedia.com/prod...ion.html?id=59

http://www.removeyourcontent.com/temp/evhcw2.jpg

http://www.removeyourcontent.com/temp/tmasm.jpg

Trademark violations are not covered by the DMCA

that what sopa is designed to do.

DMCA notices to deal with trademark issue are as valid as sending dmca notices to deal with peanut butter allergies.

MaDalton 01-14-2012 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by denny007 (Post 18688206)
Well I am certainly against pirating. I myself produced two movies (released last year) in .CZ (costs about $3M) and I wish copyright situation here would be as good as in the USA. You can check www.ulozto.cz (www.uloz.to) - you can find EVERYTHING there and its legal according Czech laws. I am fighting this site and I get only laugh and 99% people in the country hates me ebcause they like status quo when they can get ANYTHING for free there (after I started fight they at least control child porn there because I outed them there is tons of child porn there).

all my czech friends (and mostly everyone else too) think i am a strange person for buying my movies instead of just downloading them. and no one of them considers this stealing

gideongallery 01-14-2012 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 18688456)
:winkwink: Keeping the red arrow tradition alive.

http://www.removeyourcontent.com/temp/infringement.jpg

again that a bill processor not a host

nothing is hosted on segpay they just process the money transactions

SOPA is the first law that allows you to send notices to bill processors

SOPA is the law designed to fix the problem that the DMCA does not allow you to DMCA the bill processor.

That the fucking point.

porno jew 01-14-2012 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18688493)
again that a bill processor not a host

nothing is hosted on segpay they just process the money transactions

SOPA is the first law that allows you to send notices to bill processors

SOPA is the law designed to fix the problem that the DMCA does not allow you to DMCA the bill processor.

That the fucking point.

i think you have a point there. although i am not a dmca lawyer.

can porno police chime in on this matter?

RycEric 01-14-2012 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18688493)
again that a bill processor not a host

nothing is hosted on segpay they just process the money transactions

SOPA is the first law that allows you to send notices to bill processors

SOPA is the law designed to fix the problem that the DMCA does not allow you to DMCA the bill processor.

That the fucking point.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

http://www.ccbill.com/cs/dmca.html
https://cms.paypal.com/cms_content/U...mentreport.pdf

Tell CCbill and Paypal to get rid of their forms. They are wrong and you are right. Got work to do now.

Jack Sparrow 01-14-2012 10:59 AM

I know so many places harbouring illegal content someone should hire me.

gideongallery 01-14-2012 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 18688323)
Nothing bogus about this notice though. In addition, there are no damages other than inconvenience. You'd be better off spent making a service that goes after spammers and in that case I'd spend money on that. There is no "adult law" (perhaps there should be though) and by the time he finishes the bar, he may have no candidate clients left. He can then thank those folks who are to bear the true fault..... billing companies and hosts who cater to pirates.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 18688511)
:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

http://www.ccbill.com/cs/dmca.html
https://cms.paypal.com/cms_content/U...mentreport.pdf

Tell CCbill and Paypal to get rid of their forms. They are wrong and you are right. Got work to do now.

seriously are you so clueless to not understand how this is an attempt to claim safe harbour protection.

they only have to remove the content if it on their servers, taking the notice doesn't mean you have a legal right to DMCA them.

Foreign companies like group telecom accepted DMCA notices too, even though they were Canadian and were not covered by the US law at all.

Seriously what the name of the lawyer who gave your advice

What the name of the insurance company that is insuring you.

denny007 01-14-2012 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 18688318)
".. or otherwise have permission to use"

So, paying is not the issue. Your domain is a typo of zombaio.com .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber_squatting

Your arguments have zero legs to stand on:
1. I never heard of Zombaio or what the fuck their name is, according Wiki there must be "bad faith intent" - but I didnt have bad faith intent.
2. "Cybersquatters usually ask for prices far greater than that at which they purchased it." - I actually do not sell domains or very seldom and my MO/business plan is not to racketeer TM holder.

You aare perhaps pissed because I got plenty of domains and you probably have not, but well - you must get over it...

denny007 01-14-2012 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18688324)
He mentioned that his domain purchases are sometimes automatic, or something to that sort.

Zombaio is a made up fucking word. Who's to say their's isn't a typo of his.

Just sayin'.

Good point :)

denny007 01-14-2012 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 18688492)
all my czech friends (and mostly everyone else too) think i am a strange person for buying my movies instead of just downloading them. and no one of them considers this stealing

Exactly, their biggest "argument" is that every empty DVD they buy has like one-cent fee for copyrights on it and this gives them right to everything, because they already apid a fee...

GregE 01-14-2012 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18688493)
again that a bill processor not a host

nothing is hosted on segpay they just process the money transactions

SOPA is the first law that allows you to send notices to bill processors

SOPA is the law designed to fix the problem that the DMCA does not allow you to DMCA the bill processor.

That the fucking point.

For someone who is so vehemently opposed to SOPA, you're sure making a damn good case for why it should become law :1orglaugh

alextokyo 01-14-2012 11:54 AM

the fuck kind of name is Zombaio for a billing company anyway? :321GFY

Sounds more like a cross between a the name of an Italian football club like SS Lazio and an 80's sportswear brand along the lines of Diadora or Sergio Tacchini.

Should've called themselves Epach or CC Billing, something like that.

GonZo 01-14-2012 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 18688511)
:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

http://www.ccbill.com/cs/dmca.html
https://cms.paypal.com/cms_content/U...mentreport.pdf

Tell CCbill and Paypal to get rid of their forms. They are wrong and you are right. Got work to do now.

Keep doing what your doing Eric!

gideongallery 01-14-2012 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregE (Post 18688603)
For someone who is so vehemently opposed to SOPA, you're sure making a damn good case for why it should become law :1orglaugh

only if your a moron

reread my statements i don't have a problem with any of the rights granted to copyright holders when they go after rogue sites, as long as the penalty for making a bogus complaint is equal (make a bogus complaint, lose all your copyrights).

an abuse it and lose it clause is the only thing that is necessary to make sopa perfectly ok in my book.

gideongallery 01-14-2012 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by denny007 (Post 18688575)
Exactly, their biggest "argument" is that every empty DVD they buy has like one-cent fee for copyrights on it and this gives them right to everything, because they already apid a fee...

offer acceptance and consideration

your lobby group made the deal, it was accepted by the government and the money was collected that a valid contract and therefore a valid licience.

if you want to bitch sue the trade association for making the deal, or claim your share of the piracy tax and be done with it.

Seriously that piracy tax pay more to the actual creators then the current model does

sarettah 01-14-2012 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonZo (Post 18688621)
Keep doing what your doing Eric!

Exactly :thumbsup



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denny007 01-15-2012 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18688740)
offer acceptance and consideration

your lobby group made the deal, it was accepted by the government and the money was collected that a valid contract and therefore a valid licience.

if you want to bitch sue the trade association for making the deal, or claim your share of the piracy tax and be done with it.

Seriously that piracy tax pay more to the actual creators then the current model does

There is no "contract" - these fees are inmany countries (empty media, printers, copy machines) and I actually do not agree with them because those are bullshit fees and I dont think anything goes to small copyright holders from it.

Piracy tax - googled it, I would be against it too.

What would do for now if there would be laws in Czech which would effectively stop such blatant download services as www.ulozto.cz

Fletch XXX 01-15-2012 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18688530)

Seriously what the name of the lawyer who gave your advice

as we have seen with many dmca services the people sending them out seem to have zero law education, and never read the DMCA because if they did, article 512f would concern them LOL


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