Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18700175)

right now in congress senetor backing sopa are saying they need the law to go after foreign infringers because the current laws don't cut it

taking down a foreign infringer with the current "inferior" laws absolutely proves that argument false.

Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 18700779)

fuck sake. i wanted to download a file from there in my bookmarks :(

Originally Posted by GayBunny (Post 18700745)

If i were kickasstorrents, i would be pretty worried!

Originally Posted by lucas131 (Post 18700797)

i am selling my megaupload premium account, expire jan 2013, 10% discount. any takers?

Originally Posted by SCORE Ralph (Post 18700422)

Whether it was 'framed' or not, how else could you construe such an attack?

Originally Posted by pimpware (Post 18700913)

Do you accept epass?

Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 18700722)

Except that it is my understanding that MegaUpload.com is not a "foreign site" as that term is defined under SOPA. :2 cents:

Under SOPA both the terms "foreign site" and "foreign domain name" are defined in the negative -- meaning that they are defined as an "internet site that is not a domestic Internet site," and "a domain name that is not a domestic domain name."

Here is SOPA's statutory definition of a domestic domain name:



As the argument goes (and it's an argument the U.S. courts have accepted, thus far), since all .COMs are under the auspices of Verisign, by the statutory definition above, all .COM sites, including MegaUpload.com, are "domestic." This has actually been identified as an ironic weakness of SOPA by some of its critics, in fact.

Further, under Section 102 of SOPA, a "foreign infringing site" is a site that "would, by reason of acts described in paragraph (1), be subject to seizure in the United States in an action brought by the Attorney General if such site were a domestic Internet site."

I think it is safe to conclude, based on the fact that MegaUpload.com has now been seized in an action brought by the US Attorney General (actions taken by the US DOJ are actions taken on behalf of the US AG), that MU is therefore NOT a foreign infringing site as that term is defined under SOPA.

Originally Posted by chaze (Post 18701156)

Not to take sides but how this site was ever alive I never got.

I mean they have tons of illegal stuff on there, everyone knows it.

I don't think they need SOPA to deal with such obvious file trading.

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 18700606)

You mean 50 years in federal prison sucking Bubba's dick every day? Go ahead.

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 18701130)

Anons call it protesting

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18701220)

If it's all a carefully planned conspiracy against Anon, why assume an actual DDOS even happened?

Originally Posted by JimmyStephans (Post 18701293)

Actually, MegaUpload was full of adult content and had many other names (MegaErotic, etc.).

The full 72 page indictment:

Originally Posted by SAS_Jack (Post 18701467)

Sorry for the spam, but so far, these are pretty important when it comes to safe harbour under the DMCA Act.

Originally Posted by JimmyStephans (Post 18701293)

Actually, MegaUpload was full of adult content and had many other names (MegaErotic, etc.).

The full 72 page indictment: http://truebabes.com/mega.pdf

Originally Posted by SAS_Jack (Post 18701467)

I'm upto page 25 on the indictment and its pretty damning. And its stuff that the majority of us in this industry have know for a while.





Sorry for the spam, but so far, these are pretty important when it comes to safe harbour under the DMCA Act.

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18701667)

or are you saying your expecting mega upload to put up 11 copies of the content waste resources and completely eliminate the network effect benefits.

If they did that the same exact consequence would happen (only the reported one would go down)

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18701667)

so if person a put a video that he want to backup on mega upload but doesn't share with anyone (and therefore stays hidden from the copyright holder)

you want his backup to be wiped out because someone else decides to infringe (share)

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn (Post 18699493)

What happened is a huge victory for legit content producers and it cripples piracy tremendously. Because starting today filelockers are now being known as "criminal" which means that a growing amount of companies and individuals won't want to work with/for them anymore. And that includes Visa, MasterCard and PayPal. Of course it's impossible to kill piracy completely but severely crippling it will be second best.

Originally Posted by PiracyPitbull (Post 18701682)

Yes. Each uploader to upload a file. Their system resources are not our problem.

Full file removal and a proper ban for repeat infringers.

Originally Posted by SAS_Jack (Post 18701722)

And another thing - Filesonic, Oron and other filehosts allow their servers to be indexed by search engines. Meaning someone can "backup" a file and it will be available to the general public for download. This isn't acceptable.

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18701751)

so your demanding the deliberate fucking over of people who are not sharing a single thing
committing no infringement at all

Your talking about taking away their right to backup the content they paid for.

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18701751)

they aren't they are simply connecting the identical files together to minimize costs.

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18701259)

http://usdoj.s3-website-us-east-1.am...com/banner.jpg

game over

Originally Posted by seeric (Post 18701839)

50 million unique visitors a day now learning that what they were doing is not legal and that people are watching and taking actions.

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18701843)

Feds should put some banners up.

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18700337)

Would be nice if pornolab.net will end like this too...

Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 18701287)

The porn industry could have celebrated if it was Oron or Filesonic taken down...not sure if some here don't realize that Oron is the one that holds a LARGE number of porn videos, from the biggest content all the way down to the small niche/fetish videos.

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 18702060)

Wow, megaupload has an alexa rank of 72!! Insane! Other File sharing sites must be shitting in their pants.

Originally Posted by SlutsBukkake (Post 18702068)

I dont see how they can shut down an entire site that is not solely hosted in the US.

So in theory could they shutdown YouTube?

What about all those people who were just using it for backup of thier personal or work files? Isn't the FBI accessing/deleting these doing something illegal?

While i dont agree with the copright offences, i think something smells fishy and that this is setting a very bad precedent for the government to be able to shut down any website/business and not give them a chance to defend themselves in court.

Originally Posted by PiracyPitbull (Post 18701770)

No I'm not. They can back up separately from other uploaders. One person uploads, they get a link for that upload back in return, associated to the relevant file.

Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 18701287)

The porn industry could have celebrated if it was Oron or Filesonic taken down...not sure if some here don't realize that Oron is the one that holds a LARGE number of porn videos, from the biggest content all the way down to the small niche/fetish videos. Megaupload was more movies,games, and nulled scripts.

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 18702060)

Wow, megaupload has an alexa rank of 72!! Insane! Other File sharing sites must be shitting in their pants.

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18702242)

so you think that raising the cost and therefore raising the price is nct screwing over the legit consumers

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18702242)

bullshit read the safe harbor

Once notice is given to the service provider, or in circumstances where the service provider discovers the infringing material itself, it is required to expeditiously remove, or disable access to, the material.

think of it this way if i purchased an online backup service and my password got hacked

your saying the only way the host could be protected safe harbor provision was to destroy my backup even though they could remove infringing access by simply changing the password and notify me.

the people using megaupload as an onliine backup with zero distribution (keeping the link private) are within the bounds of fair use and are therefore not an example of infringing material.

Originally Posted by PiracyPitbull (Post 18703002)

If that what it costs to run a service, then no.







So in instances where 500 people upload a cinema recording of "Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol ", clearly an infringing upload and not currently available for sale.

The Filehost should be able to bundle all 500 copies as one, issue links as normal - and should they receive 10 take-down requests, only pay attention to those, disable those 10 links but leave the remaining 490 links live ? - is that what you're saying ?