Because of the crime stigma, future innovations in piracy that might have developed to quench demand will be perceived as much riskier investments.

And another thing - Filesonic, Oron and other filehosts allow their servers to be indexed by search engines. Meaning someone can "backup" a file and it will be available to the general public for download. This isn't acceptable.

so your demanding the deliberate fucking over of people who are not sharing a single thing
committing no infringement at all

Your talking about taking away their right to backup the content they paid for.





and they aren't they are simply connecting the identical files together to minimize costs.

only if the "back up"er put the link into the public somehow

Of course in this example that would be the links that could be found.

The links the copyright holder couldn't find, those are people who specifically choose to use the service as a completely hidden, only accessible by themselves service.

No I'm not. They can back up separately from other uploaders. One person uploads, they get a link for that upload back in return, associated to the relevant file.







And therefore, they don't qualify for safe harbor.

50 million unique visitors a day now learning that what they were doing is not legal and that people are watching and taking actions.

Few more of these should really wake up those people who don't think they're breaking the law downloading any movie they want for free.

:2 cents:

Feds should put some banners up.

feds suck at monetizing traffic

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Wow, megaupload has an alexa rank of 72!! Insane! Other File sharing sites must be shitting in their pants.

Including illegal ones like "zoo", "scat" etc...

They are already. Check this out: http://www.wjunction.com/14-news-cur...rget-list.html

I dont see how they can shut down an entire site that is not solely hosted in the US.

So in theory could they shutdown YouTube?

What about all those people who were just using it for backup of thier personal or work files? Isn't the FBI accessing/deleting these doing something illegal?

While i dont agree with the copright offences, i think something smells fishy and that this is setting a very bad precedent for the government to be able to shut down any website/business and not give them a chance to defend themselves in court.

Fool. Wake up.

so you think that raising the cost and therefore raising the price is nct screwing over the legit consumers



bullshit read the safe harbor

Once notice is given to the service provider, or in circumstances where the service provider discovers the infringing material itself, it is required to expeditiously remove, or disable access to, the material.

think of it this way if i purchased an online backup service and my password got hacked

your saying the only way the host could be protected safe harbor provision was to destroy my backup even though they could remove infringing access by simply changing the password and notify me.

the people using megaupload as an onliine backup with zero distribution (keeping the link private) are within the bounds of fair use and are therefore not an example of infringing material.

oron owns pornbb.org , and people that post on the forum are only permitted to use oron as a file service.

so of course its got a huge % of porn content.

:321GFY

megavideo.com alexa of 172 as well

If that what it costs to run a service, then no.





So in instances where 500 people upload a cinema recording of "Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol ", clearly an infringing upload and not currently available for sale.

The Filehost should be able to bundle all 500 copies as one, issue links as normal - and should they receive 10 take-down requests, only pay attention to those, disable those 10 links but leave the remaining 490 links live ? - is that what you're saying ?

mr pitbull, i dont understand, without piracy your business gets no clients. why are you so against it?:upsidedow

300 nails in the piracy coffin

So how long until they get all the other fuckers?

hey guys this must be some kind of road to Damascus moment for old Mr Gall Bladder.

The king Of the thieves, Gideon Fagin himself, is actually suggesting that having paid for something gives you some entitlement to decide what happens to the said item.

So it appears that we have a new champion, Gideon Gallbladder is going to defend your rights as owners of the content you have produced.

This is truly a remarkable day.

After all damianj said there was nothing you could do - pirates will never change their spots. One normally does not like to gloat, but.......this Monte Christo is particularly pleasant with the cognac tonight !!!!!!!

Because this is not my only source of income.

Id rather be making more money again from my exclusive content websites, than content removal.

I think we need to wait till february

did you even read the complaint they were talking about TV SHOWS that shit that people have a right to backup if they want.



but even in your example

Some countries don't have anti-caming laws, so in those countries
If a person from that country simply recorded, and backed up (without sharing it with anyone) yes that would also not be infringement.


it not as absolute but yes, there are still SOME of those links that are not infringing. And those links should be left alone.
Waiting for you to do your fucking job and identify the real infringing
from legit uploads (don't like it change the laws in those countries)

You are a Douche. There's no reasoning with Douche's.

Gideon you should offer your expertise to Dotcom.They need you now. And don' t forget to tell the investigators in 10 countries they are wrong.

why? i have my own videos.

http://gizmodo.com/5877987/the-best-...oad-kim-dotcom

On those pics he looked like a fat moron

Shouldn't that be: That "some" people "might" have the right to back up and recover.


For the miniscule amount of users that might do that, in the tiny amount of countries that allow it (and yes I know they exist) it technically wouldn't.

But, part of the DMCA is that service providers "not be aware of the presence of infringing material or know any facts or circumstances that would make infringing material apparent".

Once they receive a DMCA regarding that movie, they have all the relevant links they need to identify "all" infringements regarding that move if identically linked....which in this example would be 10 dmca'd - leaving 490, minus any found to be non infringing from the few users in countries that don't have anti-camming.

So using my example of Ghost Protocol and being that filelockers connect identical files, they would still be in breach if they didn't remove every single infringing link.

Which is clearly not happening.

So, they still wouldn't qualify for safe harbor.

He is of a similar height and build to myself - But he is a bit smaller...

We feel embarrassed around the 'Beautiful people' and like to cover up.. :2 cents: :thumbsup

if you put your personal or work files on a site like megaload your a moron

seriously your business is issuing take downs and your this oblivious of the law

The combination of double jeopardy rules and the wording of fair use in the copyright act has created a situation ,the illegality of the source doesn't invalidate the fair use right.

In other words if you backup an infringing copy your not guilty of two counts of copyright infringement your only guilty of 1 (the original ownership).

This condition has been validated by supreme court of canada, appeals court in US, and the EU (highest standing decision btw).

due diligence to determine infringing vs non infringing state is not a requirement of safe harbor, congress when crafting the law believed that would be to much of a burden on hosts. You may not like it but that is the nature of the law

they may "have all the relevant links they need to identify "all" infringements" the law doesn't require them to do the research to determine which of those links are infringing or not.

and by your declaration

which me means that link list is actually only POTENTIAL infringing content until that due diligence is completed


the apparent issue, a hidden link by definition is not apparent, taking out only the public link takes out the circumstances that makes the infringing material apparent.

Before shutdown, Megaupload ate up more corporate bandwidth than Dropbox

http://arstechnica.com/business/news...an-dropbox.ars