I don't disagree that there are worker bees and they are happy with that. I saw my Mom always excel in every management job she had and tried to push her to open her own business but she was happy with working for someone else.

There are also different personalities at the senior management level. If I owned a big company I would hire a CEO and assume the COO position. I am less interested in coming up with the big picture and more interested in building efficient systems. I would make the COO position as powerful as the CEO position (some companies do that) but I prefer being told where we are going and then figure out how to get there.

What does any of that have to do with providing basic needs for people like education, housing, food, clothes, etc.?

As a sidenote:

I am reading Warren Buffets biography right now. I never realized he was a congressman's son. I always thought he was somebody that came from nothing.

He was a privileged kid. Not from a wealthy family from what I can tell, but they had amazing connections.

Anybody can make something of themselves, but a lot of people do have doors opened for them.

While anybody determined enough can open the doors for themselves, I think you get further faster if someone is opening them for you.

Unless they somehow managed to abolish scarcity and there are now unlimited supplies of iron, bricks, steel, wood, cotton,..., vegetables, meat and teachers that are willing to work for free, your statement implies that you are OK with the state taking away the property of some (people who have earned it) to give it away to others.

Not only is that an act of aggression, from an economic point of view it also leads to a destruction of capital in society.

Seriously man, why do you even bother? The vast majority of the people on here hardly understand the mere words you're saying, much less the entire posts. I know you're trying to enlighten some, but seriously, you can only expect so much understanding from monkeys.

Yes, that is what I believe, and that is what has been proven to work. Not all that theoretical mises bullshit.

Oh, I understand him perfectly. I just don't agree. There's a difference, you know.

As he should be and you are too. Did you pay for the road in front of your house? Do you care to refund poor people that can't afford a car but still pay for your road? Just one example out of too many to mention, please take my money and build a better society. :2 cents:



We understand the words fine, they are just wrong.

Ah yes, the "luck" excuse of the unaccomplished.

Sorry professor. Please don't knock me down to a C. Aren't you the guy who thinks going to college is the way to success? If that was the case 70% of the young population would be successful, including those dirty educated hippies in the occupy movement. Most of the very rich did not do so well in school and did not find it very important. I can write much better if i took my time but I don't in such cases as long as i can get my ideas across, thats all that matters to me.

And as for small decisions...everything can be traced back. I wouldn't be working online if i didn't get into trouble with the law and was forced by law to not hang out with my friends and needed something else to do. I would never of known how much money there was to be made in adult if not for an email someone i didn't even know sent me after signing up to their mainstream free hosting. Hell if my dad wasn't friends with a guy who was so into computers maybe i never would of had the internet in my home to have the chance to do any of that until much later. Its all connected. None of this was a conscious decision towards anything but its part of what took me to a place where i was working for myself and making much more money than my peers.

If the state has the right to take away your property, then by definition it is not your property. If you do not have the right to own property, then by definition you are not a free man, but a serf.

I'm too grand for this thread ...

Yes I did. I paid to be connected to the sewerage system. I paid for the 120 meters of cable to be connected to the cable network. I paid the contractor that turned the old dirt road that connects my property to the 'public road' into a 'proper asphalt road'. etc

I have no idea what Coast to Coast AM is, however it sounds like something you would listen to. Additionally, considering your polarized, one sided, political views of the world with a touch of Republican fodder, I doubt there is much 'intelligence' on your end to contribute to a balanced discussion. That being said, I always enjoy a good chuckle when people discount actual history, easily verifiable, just because they do not agree with the facts.

Hold your horses right there chief!! You do not want to confuse raymor with facts. He might say you get them from NPR, PBS or something. :winkwink: :winkwink:

Amen BROmance. :thumbsup

poor people who can't afford a car are NOT paying for anyone's road. Or much else for that matter.

No, I didn't finish school myself, though I may well go back. I've wanted to be an attorney since I was a little kid, because I love to argue. :) What I said is that most millionaires work at learning so they can advance - either learning in school or on the job. If you're successful in this business, I imagine you invested a lot of time and effort learning.

The average millionaire reads two non-fiction books per month. The average non-millionaire, one per year. Rich people get and stay rich by educating themselves. (Aside, possibly, from the very few in Hollywood.)

I understand that and probably shouldn't have said anything. That said, HUNDREDS of potential business associates are reading this thread and from it learning who we are.

Maybe you wouldn't be working online, maybe you would have gotten here via a different path. In order to be successful in this industry, with this much competition, you invested a lot of time and effort into learning. You invested time, effort, and probably money into building your business. You took smart risks. You built relationships. As that kind of person, willing to do those things, you were eventually going to succeed at whatever you were doing.

If you don't already know that the work you invested and the smart risks you take matter, don't work the rest of the week. It doesn't matter whether you work or not, right? It's all luck?

You are working this week, and probably choosing to put off buying things you want, like that new car, in order to invest in your business for long term success. Other, less successful people are spending their paycheck on rims while you invest yours in content. I think you're making better decisions.

if you keep putting yourself in positions of opportunity you create your own luck. You can't hit a homerun if you don't show up to the ball park.

Since when does someone have to be a billionaire to be considered successful? Or to be satisfied? Both my parents have been working class types their whole lives. They found decent jobs early and stuck with it. In their eyes they had no need to want or do more than that. Sure they would have taken more money if they were given it but they would have just spent it on my brother and I, or maybe we would have traveled a bit more, but I assure you they don't feel left out of the picture because they weren't millionaires.

I personally want more than that and I'm pushing hard to get there, but I don't need a billion dollars to do it I assure you--and i can give a rats ass what any billionaire thinks of me. Why should anyone?

"Chance favors the prepared mind" fine sire.

:2 cents:

I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have.
Thomas Jefferson

In the silliest and stupidest old saying is the truth on a road to riches.

if life gives you lemons, Make lemon aid.

Take the lemons and sell lemon aid.