Originally Posted by vdbucks (Post 18737694)

Here's a secret... scammers generally never reply to emails, questions, or the like..

Originally Posted by Eyeball (Post 18737775)

I never reply to rep's mythering me as soon as i try their programme. Likewise, i move on if i have to wait for approval.

Originally Posted by vdbucks (Post 18737772)

Once again, going to have to disagree with you. We were strictly a ccbill only program from 2006-2009. Since running our own system we've increased our bottom line dramatically. Not to say ccbill programs aren't successful, but after having the flexibility we have now, I can't imagine going back to a 1 biller solution.

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18737787)

but again, i do not care.

do what you want. if it works for you then fine.

but I DO NOT HAVE THE TIME to mess about sending you stuff.

I am not going to spend an hour or so messing about in the off chance that you may or may not aprove me.

I can be promoting another site or two in that time.

Do you not understand that.

If you want to feel important and get people sending you docs, good for you.

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18737807)

I had to take this shit stain off of ignore just to see what ignorant shit he was spewing. He didn't disappoint.

This thread is hilarious. A guy with no traffic and zero chance at making any real sales to begin with complaining about sponsors verifying affiliates so they don't get hammered with fraudulent sales. :1orglaugh

Seriously, if you pass on a program because they want to know who you are and where your traffic may come from, then you need to just keep with pulling RSS feeds into your one poorly designed blog that no one visits.

I saw three thread titles made by the grand retard Battuss (who is apparently just getting his feet wet in the business even though he's been a board troll since 2001) with the following sponsors: Island Dollars, Shemale Profits and Exotic Gold. All of which have some of the best shemale content on the entire internet. Yet this moron is passing because he has to be approved. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I'm not sure what shows him to be more of an ass. The fact that he is calling them out and totally clueless as to why a sponsor would want to look into who he is, or the fact that he is passing on the top shemale companies on his shemale site (which probably sucks balls anyway). Either way, he fails again.

Battuss, you are honestly an embarrassment to yourself. And yea, I know your great one and only "comeback" will be that I did business with people who ended up being scammers, because that's the ONLY thing you have to come back with, and you've been on this for years because you have nothing better to do but live on my nut sack. Quite pathetic really, but whatever gets you off.

VD Bucks and 12 Clicks are right on this. Battuss, you're an idiot. Those companies should be thankful they don't have to deal with dub ass Euro trash like you.

Stick to being a troll. It's probably the only thing in your life that you've been someone decent at.

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18737824)

Great, now maybe you are gonna answer my questions. Everyone else failed. It shouldn't be a problem for an Einstein like you right?

How much damage can a scammer do to a ccbill revshare program in 24 hours.
Apparently so much it's worth losing 10000's of dollars a year. Please explain since you know to seem the answer and i don't.

And how exactly is a signup form going to stop them where they can fill in any name and website they want. Even use an American proxy if they want.

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 18737842)

Good question

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18737780)

offer people both options.

simple

you can say promote via ccbill now or sign up for our own system but we aprove people.

then no probs.

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18737787)

but I DO NOT HAVE THE TIME to mess about sending you stuff.

I am not going to spend an hour or so messing about in the off chance that you may or may not aprove me.

I can be promoting another site or two in that time.

Do you not understand that.

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18737855)

Why would a company offer both just so guys who can't wait 24 - 48 hours to get approved and who may be trying to hide something can sign up? Get real man. All of these companies have fraud issues to deal with and it is exactly guys like you, who want to not have any approval at all, who create ALL of their problems.

Do you want to know who complains about having to wait more than 30 seconds for approval? Guys who don't send sales, that's who. And as luck would have it, they are the same guys who demand the most from a sponsor and complain the most too. Funny how that works, isn't it?

If you are serious about making money, having to be approved wouldn't be an issue.



You have the time to post endless useless news stories on GFY (and lord knows how many other boards) FOR FREE, but not wait for a sponsor to approve you so you can actually make money with them?

Sure, makes sense to me. :helpme

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18737852)

Yet all the "big players" like DWB seem to disagree. They refuse to explain me why though.

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18737852)

The irony btw is that DWB was defending a bunch of credit card scammers here with his life a couple of years ago. Everybody got their card banged left and right and DBW defended the people who did it.

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18737824)

Great, now maybe you are gonna answer my questions. Everyone else failed. It shouldn't be a problem for an Einstein like you right?

How much damage can a scammer do to a ccbill revshare program in 24 hours.
Apparently so much it's worth losing 10000's of dollars a year. Please explain since you know to seem the answer and i don't.

And how exactly is a signup form going to stop them where they can fill in any name and website they want. Even use an American proxy if they want.

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 18737877)

While what you just posted have sense,it's simply mood killer when you want to put something new on your sites yet you cant do it immediately due to activation process which sometime can take days to make it work.Perhaps compromise would be to allow immediately send traffic,but not credit anything in case of denial.

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18737897)

Yea, YEARS ago I did business with someone who turned out to be a scammer. I've done business with a few people who ended up turning into scammers. If you've ever done any business at all in this industry, you have too.

Then I moved on. Sadly, you haven't.

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18737897)

Not even sure why I'm wasting my time... It's not about how much damage ONE guy can do, even though any damage is too much. It's more about the collective damage of everyone that can push your chargebacks to over the 1% rule that could eventually cost you the account.

If they want to properly approve you, they can look at your site, contact you and talk to you, see if they can find out who you are. Lots of things people CAN do. What everyone actually does is their own business. If they find you to be faking info, you don't get approved.

Do you have any idea how many new people sign up daily? Sometimes it's a lot. Many times it's surfers trying to get free porn. Why pollute your DB with these people?

There are several reasons why. And if you move on because you can't "wait" then it is you who loses. They will be fine without you. Anyone with the potential of sending real sales would contact them directly or wait to be approved anyway.

Is this really THAT difficult to comprehend? Is that giant forehead of yours not holding a brain behind it?

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18737895)

How typical is that. All these people calling me names yet noone can answer my very simple questions.

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18737907)

1) You are not deserving of a quick answer. Wait for it.

2) It takes time to type and explain it in a manner that even your challenged 3rd grade brain can comprehend.

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18737906)

Was this supposed to be the answer to my questions? I hope not. Please read my questions again.

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18737905)

Right, while several people here posted evidence they were banging cards and even a blind person could see what was going on you kept defending for months. You and their rep DJ the kid were the only one to do that. You lying sack of shit.

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18737919)

DWB, i'm waiting. Out of all people you must be able to answer it right?

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18737807)

I had to take this shit stain off of ignore just to see what ignorant shit he was spewing. He didn't disappoint.

This thread is hilarious. A guy with no traffic and zero chance at making any real sales to begin with complaining about sponsors verifying affiliates so they don't get hammered with fraudulent sales. :1orglaugh

Seriously, if you pass on a program because they want to know who you are and where your traffic may come from, then you need to just keep with pulling RSS feeds into your one poorly designed blog that no one visits.

I saw three thread titles made by the grand retard Battuss (who is apparently just getting his feet wet in the business even though he's been a board troll since 2001) with the following sponsors: Island Dollars, Shemale Profits and Exotic Gold. All of which have some of the best shemale content on the entire internet. Yet this moron is passing because he has to be approved. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I'm not sure what shows him to be more of an ass. The fact that he is calling them out and totally clueless as to why a sponsor would want to look into who he is, or the fact that he is passing on the top shemale companies on his shemale site (which probably sucks balls anyway). Either way, he fails again.

Battuss, you are honestly an embarrassment to yourself. And yea, I know your great one and only "comeback" will be that I did business with people who ended up being scammers, because that's the ONLY thing you have to come back with, and you've been on this for years because you have nothing better to do but live on my nut sack. Quite pathetic really, but whatever gets you off.

VD Bucks and 12 Clicks are right on this. Battuss, you're an idiot. Those companies should be thankful they don't have to deal with dub ass Euro trash like you.

Stick to being a troll. It's probably the only thing in your life that you've been someone decent at.

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18737928)

You asked why, those are reasons why.

Don't accept them, eat a dick. Stick to being a troll and stay out of a business you clearly don't understand. Which is sad since you've been here since 2001. You should be solid by now.




OK... since you refuse to move on. Lets settle this right now. Show me proof.

I want to see PROOF that ILLEGAL charges were made to a credit card. Show me that person did not click on any upgrades or miss any cross sales. Prove to me that the person only signed up to that one site, didn't make any upgrades or miss any cross sales, and then canceled his card.

People posting threads on GFY about having their cards banged IS NOT PROOF OF ANYTHING.

This is sooooo easy to prove. There should be video evidence of the entire sign up process. There should be video evidence of logging in, looking at content, then leaving and canceling. THEN show the extra charges on the bill. As much as you have been on their nuts, I know you must have recorded this whole process so you can bust them, right? Lets see it.

Show me PROOF that would hold up in a court of law.

If 1000s of people got their card banged, at least ONE person did this, right? Just to catch them and out them, I'm sure someone did. Show it to me. Just one.

If you can't then it is YOU who are the liar because you have no proof other than hearsay, which does not hold up in a court of law. And I'm not going to crucify someone unless I can prove it. Unlike the sheep who flock to webmaster boards. I need more than hearsay and anonymous or competitor board posts, who show nothing more that a credit card statement at best.

This isn't me debating if they did or if they didn't, this is me tell you to show me proof of what you claim I had knowledge of. Oh yes, speaking of, prove that I had access to their financials and would even know about such activity if it even existed.

I'll be waiting. I even have $100 for you if you can do it. Lets see the video you or anyone else made. I'll give you more money than you've ever made in a single day, I'll admit you're right and I'm wrong, and I'll change my sig to say I'm YOUR bitch.

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18737897)

Yea, YEARS ago I did business with someone who turned out to be a scammer.

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 18737932)

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18737936)

:error

Time for your meds?

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18737943)

I know it's annoying when you're trying to get a project done and you have to wait for links. I've been there too. However I think you might want to question how much money YOU'RE losing by not having the patience to wait 24 hours.

Let me explain what I mean. You've been in this business long enough to know that not all sponsors are created equal. Some sites sell better than others. It might be the tour, the join page or any number of things. So if you have to wait 24 hours for a link and instead you move on to a site that doesn't convert as well, how much money do you lose over the period of a year?

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18737943)

I know it's annoying when you're trying to get a project done and you have to wait for links. I've been there too. However I think you might want to question how much money YOU'RE losing by not having the patience to wait 24 hours.

Let me explain what I mean. You've been in this business long enough to know that not all sponsors are created equal. Some sites sell better than others. It might be the tour, the join page or any number of things. So if you have to wait 24 hours for a link and instead you move on to a site that doesn't convert as well, how much money do you lose over the period of a year?

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18737940)

You have proof or are you just going to live on my nuts for another four years?

It's out there, it must be. Show it to me. You won't make $100 anywhere else today. I guarantee you that much.

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18737897)

Yea, YEARS ago I did business with someone who turned out to be a scammer.

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18737950)

Sure, you might be right. But that's not what this thread is about. I still want to know what could possible happen to them in 24 hours that's worth losing potentially a shitload of money every year. And so far noone has explained this to me.
Also nobody has explained to me how exactly a signup form is going to stop scammers.

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18737950)

Sure, you might be right. But that's not what this thread is about. I still want to know what could possible happen to them in 24 hours that's worth losing potentially a shitload of money every year. And so far no one has explained this to me.
Also nobody has explained to me how exactly a signup form is going to stop scammers.

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18737958)

Hey I'm with you. Doesnt even matter if it's PPS or revshare because you're not going to get a payout over night anyways so in theory there's plenty of time to review an account. Especially if we're just talking about links and not members access anyways. Typically no sites give you auto members access and I know you're not talking about that anyways.

Generally what I do these days is sign up for the sponsors I might use at the begining of a project and not at the end.

You're not going to get a good answer as to why people do this. You're going to get people like Paul who have never made sales and have no real affiliates of their own. You're probably not going to change anybody's mind either. People are stubborn and once they've decided that's the way they want to do things, especially in this business, you're just wasting your breath trying to change their mind. :2 cents:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18737972)

OK Battass, it's been fun but it's time to send you back under the bridge. When you want that $100 and come through with the info, let me know.

This message is hidden because Dirty F is on your ignore list.

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18737897)

Yea, YEARS ago I did business with someone who turned out to be a scammer.