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seeric 02-09-2012 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BareBacked (Post 18747723)
Does anyone know what happned to the older gentleman here with the sexy abs and the product he was selling for breakfast

DynaMo


I still buy that stuff from him. It rocks. I mix it in my oatmeal.

Last I heard he was pursuing his health business offline. I'm looking forward to it being in Trader Joes and Whole Foods someday.

By the way, not sure who you're referring to, in regards to giving advice, but I'm passing on factual information from a certified trained dietician and personal trainer. One that I've been paying 1200 bucks a month to for some time. Been on the super healthy program for many many years, even while partying. It's probably what saved me from myself for many years. 4 days a week of circuit training and kickboxing.

I'm 155 lbs and 13.5% body fat. In my hay day I was 162 and 9% body fat.

Not that it matters, but I think I'm qualified to share some health tips.

:2 cents:

Sly 02-09-2012 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BareBacked (Post 18747722)
So funny to see everyone her playing personal trainer / nutritionist..

Do you all forget we see pics of you on fubar ? LOL

Most of the people that responded are in pretty good shape.

Phoenix 02-09-2012 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 18745846)
Don't forget that there are also very good alternatives to Eggs and Bacon for protein in your morning meal.

Ham
Low Fat Cottage Cheese
Greek Yogurt
Turkey Bacon
Turkey Sausage
Turkey Chorizo (Get this at Whole Foods, it is amazing for Breakfast Burritos)

Balancing the above with fruits, veggies (Veggies in a scramble are great Asparagus, Zucchini, Spinach work well), and high fiber breads (Sandwich or Bagel Thins or Whole Wheat High Fiber Tortillas) will power your body for most of the day.


good tips, i am going to try the turkey chorizo for sure



to Sly, i eat a big breakfast every Saturday. We go to a spot that has all local produce.
I always look forward to that meal, although i am sure i eat enough for the whole day in that one sitting..lol

Eggs...bacon...sausage...potatoes....and a side of pancakes.

Sunny Day 02-09-2012 10:30 AM

Breakfat
 
Raw egg in a Bloody Mary
Eat the celery. Cinnamon toast. All 4 food groups

BareBacked 02-09-2012 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by seeric (Post 18747738)
DynaMo


I still buy that stuff from him. It rocks. I mix it in my oatmeal.

Last I heard he was pursuing his health business offline. I'm looking forward to it being in Trader Joes and Whole Foods someday.

By the way, not sure who you're referring to, in regards to giving advice, but I'm passing on factual information from a certified trained dietician and personal trainer. One that I've been paying 1200 bucks a month to for some time. Been on the super healthy program for many many years, even while partying. It's probably what saved me from myself for many years. 4 days a week of circuit training and kickboxing.

I'm 155 lbs and 13.5% body fat. In my hay day I was 162 and 9% body fat.

Not that it matters, but I think I'm qualified to share some health tips.

:2 cents:



Glad to hear he is doing well.

That is also good to hear you are taking care of yourself. $1300 a month for a trainer? You could just about lease a Ferrari for that lol. Good for you

Dirty F 02-09-2012 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 18745818)
Start seeing yourself eating some form of protein every morning for breakfast. But not just protein- rather protein & carbs and fruit together in one meal. That will get you energized for the day and avoid a carb crash. You can eat eggs and a piece of toast plus a banana for example. Or bacon (it's kind of fatty & greasy though) plus a bagel and an orange. I often eat a half of a chicken breast, plus half an English muffin and a banana as my breakfast. Or even a can of tuna and a bagel plus an orange. Any combination of protein, carbs & fruit is good.

Fruit is full of sugars so you will get the same high and low. Avoid fruit. Fruit is bad for you :)

Bryan G 02-09-2012 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18747947)
Fruit is full of sugars so you will get the same high and low. Avoid fruit. Fruit is bad for you :)

That is such BS. Sugar is bad if it is Refined sugar, natural sugar in fruits is different.

Si 02-09-2012 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 18747966)
That is such BS. Sugar is bad if it is Refined sugar, natural sugar in fruits is different.

:thumbsup

I watched marketplace last friday (Canada, for those who don't know) and they were moaning about a fruit drink with plant sterols, saying you have to drink too much sugar to get the benefit, which is kinda true but they didn't mention the fact that natural fruit sugar is a TON better for you than the shit in coke, pepsi etc.

Also on there, which was true (I done some further research afterwards) Nitrites in Bacon, Ham etc cause Cancer.

So this summer I am going to buying a smoker and doing my own natural homemade bacon :)

Jim_Gunn 02-09-2012 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18747947)
Fruit is full of sugars so you will get the same high and low. Avoid fruit. Fruit is bad for you :)

Utterly ridiculous. Fruits have natural sugars and are very healthy for you. If you eat them as part of a meal along with meat and breads or other carbs they will all mix together and digest very well.

Choopa Phil 02-09-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 18747966)
That is such BS. Sugar is bad if it is Refined sugar, natural sugar in fruits is different.

your body can not tell the difference between these sugars and it spikes your insulin just the same as refined sugars. All fruit is, is natures candy.

Bryan G 02-09-2012 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 18747996)
your body can not tell the difference between these sugars and it spikes your insulin just the same as refined sugars. All fruit is, is natures candy.

You don't eat fruit at all? Fruits have many benefits, apples for example have lot's of fibrein them.

Socks 02-09-2012 11:09 AM

Nobody else here just has marijuana for breakfast?

Choopa Phil 02-09-2012 11:10 AM

I never said that I didnt, but i only eat bananas. I put blueberries or strawberries in my post workout shake only. I get fiber from about 3 cups of oats a day. My turds can bring the titanic up from the bottom of the ocean floor so getting fiber isnt an issue.

Dirty F 02-09-2012 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 18747966)
That is such BS. Sugar is bad if it is Refined sugar, natural sugar in fruits is different.

It's not. Look it up. Fruit sugars are sugars. Nothing more nothing less. Just because they are in a fruit doesn't make them better for you.
People should realize this. Because nobody does.
Honey isn't better than sugar for you either. Wanna know why? Because honey is sugar.

LandingPower 02-09-2012 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 18748027)
I never said that I didnt, but i only eat bananas. I put blueberries or strawberries in my post workout shake only. I get fiber from about 3 cups of oats a day. My turds can bring the titanic up from the bottom of the ocean floor so getting fiber isnt an issue.

you feel that eating anything besides bananas as a fruit is that bad? what is the cut off? i've been eating some oranges and apples after a meal but only 2x a day.

Bryan G 02-09-2012 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 18748027)
I never said that I didnt, but i only eat bananas. I put blueberries or strawberries in my post workout shake only. I get fiber from about 3 cups of oats a day. My turds can bring the titanic up from the bottom of the ocean floor so getting fiber isnt an issue.

Cool I was just curious to be honest. The only fruit I really eat are bananas and blueberries in my Protein shakes, one in the morning and one after my workout.

Dirty F 02-09-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 18747996)
your body can not tell the difference between these sugars and it spikes your insulin just the same as refined sugars. All fruit is, is natures candy.

You're totally correct and Bryan should read more before he says it's bullshit and looks like a dork ;)

Choopa Phil 02-09-2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by LandingPower (Post 18748053)
you feel that eating anything besides bananas as a fruit is that bad? what is the cut off? i've been eating some oranges and apples after a meal but only 2x a day.

Well my goals are much different than most peoples here. Im forever trying to gain weight so my shakes consist of 2 scoops whey protein isolate, 1 banana, 1 1/2 cups of oats, 1/4 cup blueberries, 1 cup greek yogurt, 3 tbs natty peanut butter. I have 2 of those a day plus 2-3 solid meals. Each one is 1200 calories. Id try to limit your intake, 1 piece of fruit a day wont kill you but multiple will.

Si 02-09-2012 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 18748067)
1 piece of fruit a day wont kill you but multiple will.

:1orglaugh

Eat too much protein and your kidneys will fuck up, good luck with that.

Dirty F 02-09-2012 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 18748067)
Well my goals are much different than most peoples here. Im forever trying to gain weight so my shakes consist of 2 scoops whey protein isolate, 1 banana, 1 1/2 cups of oats, 1/4 cup blueberries, 1 cup greek yogurt, 3 tbs natty peanut butter. I have 2 of those a day plus 2-3 solid meals. Each one is 1200 calories. Id try to limit your intake, 1 piece of fruit a day wont kill you but multiple will.

:helpme

You probably eat more for breakfast than i eat all day.

Si 02-09-2012 11:38 AM

For the anti-sugar idiots:

http://www.everydiet.org/1001/sugar-...al-sugar-facts

What sugars are considered natural? A few natural sweeteners include: stevia (a herbal extract that is naturally sweet with no calories), barley malt, evaporated cane juice before it is refined (refined sugar is derived from cane juice, but is extremely processed with many of the natural enzymes, vitamins, minerals, and fiber removed), fruit juice (fructose), rice syrup, honey, and sugar alcohols. All-natural maple syrup is not only flavorful, but rich with iron and other micronutrients. Sugar alcohols have a “sweet” taste but are processed by the body as alcohol. This means that they are typically burned for energy and have a minimal impact on insulin and blood sugar, according to the latest studies. They are not known to be toxic like non-sugar alcohols.

Sugar is certainly not your enemy. Refined and processed sugars are! Consume a protein and a whole, unprocessed carbohydrate with every meal, and add healthy fats to your diet. If these meals happen to contain some natural honey or cane juice, don’t sweat it! Eat 4 – 5 servings of fruit and or vegetables each day – there are far too many healthy compounds in these foods to pass them up out of fear of the natural sugar contained within. Make your own choice about artificial sweeteners, but keep in mind that you can easily control your portion sizes and use natural sweeteners instead. Are the potential risks worth the small benefit you may or may not be receiving from artificial sweeteners? Learn to let sugar work with you, not against you!

Choopa Phil 02-09-2012 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Si (Post 18748102)
:1orglaugh

Eat too much protein and your kidneys will fuck up, good luck with that.

I dont drink, I don't smoke. I workout, i fuel my body with the protein it NEEDS i dont take in 2-3x my body weight in protein as that is counter productive and will lead to problems. Blood work is done every 3-6 months, liver enzymes, LDL and HDL are all on point. But thanks for your concern :thumbsup

Choopa Phil 02-09-2012 11:41 AM

sugar substitues such as stevia and sugar alcohols have the same impacts on insulin levels as refined sugar. Your website is wrong...post a credible source

Si 02-09-2012 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 18748160)
sugar substitues such as stevia and sugar alcohols have the same impacts on insulin levels as refined sugar. Your website is wrong...post a credible source

I don't doubt that, even aspartame and sweetners mess your insulin levels up.

Natural sugars in fruits are still a lot better than refined and processed sugars. I wouldn't pass up all the vitamins and minerals in fruit because I have no problem with my insulin levels.

Choopa Phil 02-09-2012 11:51 AM

Im not arguing the fact that they arent "better" but your body still can not tell the difference between the two and still spikes insulin levels the same as if you had just drank a can of soda. You can get plenty of benefits from something like this without all that sugar. http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/vi...viberance.html Thats better than any amount of fruit or veggies you could ever eat in a day.

Dirty F 02-09-2012 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Si (Post 18748149)
For the anti-sugar idiots:

http://www.everydiet.org/1001/sugar-...al-sugar-facts

What sugars are considered natural? A few natural sweeteners include: stevia (a herbal extract that is naturally sweet with no calories), barley malt, evaporated cane juice before it is refined (refined sugar is derived from cane juice, but is extremely processed with many of the natural enzymes, vitamins, minerals, and fiber removed), fruit juice (fructose), rice syrup, honey, and sugar alcohols. All-natural maple syrup is not only flavorful, but rich with iron and other micronutrients. Sugar alcohols have a ?sweet? taste but are processed by the body as alcohol. This means that they are typically burned for energy and have a minimal impact on insulin and blood sugar, according to the latest studies. They are not known to be toxic like non-sugar alcohols.

Sugar is certainly not your enemy. Refined and processed sugars are! Consume a protein and a whole, unprocessed carbohydrate with every meal, and add healthy fats to your diet. If these meals happen to contain some natural honey or cane juice, don?t sweat it! Eat 4 ? 5 servings of fruit and or vegetables each day ? there are far too many healthy compounds in these foods to pass them up out of fear of the natural sugar contained within. Make your own choice about artificial sweeteners, but keep in mind that you can easily control your portion sizes and use natural sweeteners instead. Are the potential risks worth the small benefit you may or may not be receiving from artificial sweeteners? Learn to let sugar work with you, not against you!

Great story, but sugars in your fruit are considered sugar to your body. You know why? Because they are sugars. Just like other sugars.

Dirty F 02-09-2012 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Si (Post 18748182)

Natural sugars in fruits are still a lot better than refined and processed sugars.

No they are not, stop feeding people lies.

Choopa Phil 02-09-2012 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18748205)
No they are not, stop feeding people lies.

You can lead a horse to water. :1orglaugh

LandingPower 02-09-2012 12:02 PM

damn, why are you guys ruining fruits for me?

haha i like having a piece of fruit after a meal or two here and there, what would be a better substitute? also, i've heard a little about "insulin spikes" but can you guys explain why it's something to avoid?

i do rosstraining.com's infinite intensity routine lately which is a mix of endurance, conditioning and strength training. i eat quite a bit but i'm trying to get lean. my meals are 8oz chicken, 1 baked sweet or regular potato for the 1st 4 meals, then just a bunch of broccoli for the 5th meal and then i have low fat cottage cheese before bed.

Dirty F 02-09-2012 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LandingPower (Post 18748218)
damn, why are you guys ruining fruits for me?

It's very bad for your teeth as well if you eat several pieces of fruit throughout the day.

Dirty F 02-09-2012 12:10 PM

I believe an apple contains about 20 grams of sugar. That's almost as much as a can of coke :D

Dirty F 02-09-2012 12:12 PM

Eat vegetables and nuts and wild salmon.
And breathe less. Oxygen is toxic and makes you old :)

Choopa Phil 02-09-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LandingPower (Post 18748218)
damn, why are you guys ruining fruits for me?

haha i like having a piece of fruit after a meal or two here and there, what would be a better substitute? also, i've heard a little about "insulin spikes" but can you guys explain why it's something to avoid?

i do rosstraining.com's infinite intensity routine lately which is a mix of endurance, conditioning and strength training. i eat quite a bit but i'm trying to get lean. my meals are 8oz chicken, 1 baked sweet or regular potato for the 1st 4 meals, then just a bunch of broccoli for the 5th meal and then i have low fat cottage cheese before bed.

Insulin is a hormone secreted by the pancreas in response to detected increases in blood sugar - insulin controls glucose homeostasis (i.e., keeps blood glucose levels constant) by stimulating the uptake of glucose into skeletal muscle and, to a lesser extent, into Liver (e.g., in the case of fructose) and adipose tissue.

In laymen's terms - it is essentially responsible for storing away the latent energy in the calories you consume. Insulin drives glucose into your cells - it feeds your muscles as it were.

Foods that are high on the glycemic index (e.g., dextrose, or other "simple" carbs) stimulate a strong spike in insulin - "spike" just means that insulin levels rise and fall rapidly (good for a quick burst of energy but not for sustained endurance). Foods lower on the glycemic index (e.g., so-called complex carbs) stimulate a much slower insulin response allowing for a sustained release of energy.

Generally speaking - bodybuilders desire an insulin spike only after a workout (they generally combine simple sugars with protein) because they want the insulin surge to "feed" their muscles as quickly as possible (trying to use laymen's terms here!).

On a side note...great diet as far as balance is concerned but throw some variety in there otherwise you will be sure to fall short. Ive tried eatting multiple of the same thing for weeks on end. All you will end up is hating chicken and potatoes lol

Dirty F 02-09-2012 12:13 PM

And stop fucking drinking milk. Milk no good for body.

baddog 02-09-2012 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by seeric (Post 18747738)
DynaMo


I still buy that stuff from him. It rocks. I mix it in my oatmeal.

Last I heard he was pursuing his health business offline. I'm looking forward to it being in Trader Joes and Whole Foods someday.

When was the last time you were able to purchase it from him? From my conversations with him, he is no longer pursuing this.

Si 02-09-2012 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18748198)
Great story, but sugars in your fruit are considered sugar to your body. You know why? Because they are sugars. Just like other sugars.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18748205)
No they are not, stop feeding people lies.

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 18748212)
You can lead a horse to water. :1orglaugh

OK so if all sugar is USED the same by the body, I really don't care about that. I'll drink natural fruit juice instead of coke any time possible.

Quote:

Fruit itself is probably healthier than products you consume that contain cane sugar because of the vitamins, antioxidants, and fiber contained in addition to the fruit sugar.
http://askthedietcoach.blogspot.com/...-you-than.html

If you're going to argue with the fact that fruit is extremely healthy for you then good luck.

Dirty F 02-09-2012 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Si (Post 18748261)
OK so if all sugar is USED the same by the body, I really don't care about that. I'll drink natural fruit juice instead of coke any time possible.



http://askthedietcoach.blogspot.com/...-you-than.html

If you're going to argue with the fact that fruit is extremely healthy for you then good luck.

Huh? I absolutely won't deny that besides the sugar fruit is good for you.
And yes obviously it's way better to drink fruitjuice than coke.

jimmy-3-way 02-09-2012 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 18745846)
Don't forget that there are also very good alternatives to Eggs and Bacon for protein in your morning meal.

Ham
Low Fat Cottage Cheese
Greek Yogurt
Turkey Bacon
Turkey Sausage
Turkey Chorizo (Get this at Whole Foods, it is amazing for Breakfast Burritos)

Balancing the above with fruits, veggies (Veggies in a scramble are great Asparagus, Zucchini, Spinach work well), and high fiber breads (Sandwich or Bagel Thins or Whole Wheat High Fiber Tortillas) will power your body for most of the day.

Wow, you eat turkey bacon? Geez man I thought we were friends, but I had no idea.

Just...wow.

Tom_PM 02-09-2012 12:26 PM

Fruit should be ok in doses, you know normal human doses like everything else we should be eating, hehe.

Nothing wrong with "turkey bacon", it's just lean meat pressed into the shape of bacon so you can use it in recipes like you use "pig bacon". Which is also just a word for a cut of pig belly meat after all.

:offtopic
DynaMo, been missing his contributions really. I had some marketing ideas for his health mix. Market to the long trail hikers, the AT, CDT and PCT trails. Hikers on those months-long hikes need easy to carry and portion food, and also mail foodstuff ahead to post offices along the trails. There is also always a "trail days" where vendors set up shop and sell and give samples. You can also mail things to hostels and post offices along the trails who will put "unclaimed" items in a box for hikers to take for free. Hikers often use trailjournals.com and will leave their planned stops along the way for people to send them stuff. DynaMo could probably turn some heads with his foodstuff to those diehards who need good balanced fuel big time and share good items with their friends. Pass it along if you talk to him.

LandingPower 02-09-2012 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 18748243)
Insulin is a hormone secreted by the pancreas in response to detected increases in blood sugar - insulin controls glucose homeostasis (i.e., keeps blood glucose levels constant) by stimulating the uptake of glucose into skeletal muscle and, to a lesser extent, into Liver (e.g., in the case of fructose) and adipose tissue.

In laymen's terms - it is essentially responsible for storing away the latent energy in the calories you consume. Insulin drives glucose into your cells - it feeds your muscles as it were.

Foods that are high on the glycemic index (e.g., dextrose, or other "simple" carbs) stimulate a strong spike in insulin - "spike" just means that insulin levels rise and fall rapidly (good for a quick burst of energy but not for sustained endurance). Foods lower on the glycemic index (e.g., so-called complex carbs) stimulate a much slower insulin response allowing for a sustained release of energy.

Generally speaking - bodybuilders desire an insulin spike only after a workout (they generally combine simple sugars with protein) because they want the insulin surge to "feed" their muscles as quickly as possible (trying to use laymen's terms here!).

On a side note...great diet as far as balance is concerned but throw some variety in there otherwise you will be sure to fall short. Ive tried eatting multiple of the same thing for weeks on end. All you will end up is hating chicken and potatoes lol

yeah i'm kinda eating the way i am now due to financial reasons. i'd love to eat a variety but chicken is the most cost efficient thing right now. i should have mentioned my breakfast is crepes i make with whole eggs and nonfat ricotta cheese. i snack on a small amount of mixed nuts throughout the the day. i recently lowered my caloric intake and i'm still getting used to it.


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