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Dirty F 02-09-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 18748383)
Great info. Thanks to all! I am soaking this all up :thumbsup



Only about a dollar a serving and a ton of good stuff in there. Might give that a shot.



With oats, is Quaker natural ok or should you go with Steel cut or something from the health food section? Are all oats the same I guess is the question. What do you prefer?

Also cutting down red meat from the diet will help the budget out a lot.



Do you go with natural unsalted nuts or salted? Salted taste better but all that salt is prob not good. Also what is "fatty fish"? Not sure what you meant there.

Thanks.

Avoid salt as much as possible. And yes they taste like crap without salt :)
Salmon is a fatty fish (wild salmon is better) the oil in fish is very good for you.

http://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-man...iet-fatty-fish

Dirty F 02-09-2012 01:02 PM

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Slappin Fish 02-09-2012 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 18748345)
All carbohydrates are digested the same, Some have more energy in them than others which is where the GI index comes into play. A GI Index is to determine how fast and how high your glucose levels will spike. You really dont need to worry about mercury poisoning from fish you would need to eat about 5 lbs of tuna for 10 years.


all carbohydrate are digested the same but soluble fiber will reduce rates of intestinal absorption. Just like alcohol is always digested the same but slowing down absorption will reduce peak levels in the blood. soluble fiber is in the fruit for a reason, nature does things well.

Choopa Phil 02-09-2012 01:03 PM

Raw almonds are a great snack too. Also look into some home made protein bar recipes, they are great on the go and have no preservatives and crap the store bought ones do

LandingPower 02-09-2012 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 18748383)
Great info. Thanks to all! I am soaking this all up :thumbsup

Do you go with natural unsalted nuts or salted? Salted taste better but all that salt is prob not good. Also what is "fatty fish"? Not sure what you meant there.

Thanks.

you should go with unsalted and raw. you'll get used to it. i never get anything salted anymore. just don't forget nuts are extremely high in calories. 1 cup of nuts is approximately 800 calories. not ideal if you are looking to lose weight or maintain. great for bulking.

Choopa Phil 02-09-2012 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 18748406)
all carbohydrate are digested the same but soluble fiber will reduce rates of intestinal absorption. Just like alcohol is always digested the same but slowing down absorption will reduce peak levels in the blood. soluble fiber is in the fruit for a reason, nature does things well.

there you go! was having a brain fart on the exact mechanism behind the slowed digestion. Thanks! :thumbsup

Vjo 02-09-2012 01:16 PM

Thanks guys. I really appreciate it. I am going to change my diet starting now. Removing cheese and much more red meat if not all to begin will really help the budget which I also really like and is a great motivator.

Oats and veggies if you buy em in bulk are really inexpensive. Potatoes as well. Eggs too. The best stuff for you is the cheapest stuff, freeing up money for blueberries, protein powers ect. I am liking this more and more. :thumbsup

At Walmart, Birds eye has some nice veggie mixes for 5 LBs for $5.99 or just over $1 a LB which is best Ive seen. Plus they are quality frozen vegies.

Also been eating a lot of canned beans lately. I take it canned are ok? But beans are certainly good. I usually mix with rice but I am gonna switch to brown rice. They say mixing beans and rice and I think wheat (but gonna avoid wheat) gives you a complete protein (amino acids) which is why third world countries usually mix the two.

Choopa Phil 02-09-2012 01:22 PM

Lentils are great and probably the Cheapest meal you can make, its like a dollar for 2-3 nights worth of eating. Nutrabio.com for protein. Its the most bioavailable and lactose free protein on the market. Its basically pharmaceutical grade...wont cause ANY gastric issues. and if you have a BJ's or Costco they sell 10 lb bags of perdue flash frozen cleaned chicken breasts for 23 bux. no need to defrost them u just tossem on the george foreman and youre good to go.

Si 02-09-2012 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 18748369)
fruit sugar IS better than something processes just as with anything else but its not really "better" Sugar is sugars is sugar. It still spikes insulin but not to such a degree that a soda would.

Ok, we're on the same page now :1orglaugh fuck me who knew sugar was so interesting?

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 18748375)
the sugars aren't better, they just have a lot more nutrients and healthy properties in them to justify eating them as opposed to a candy bar or twinkie.

fruit isn't bad for you, but eating too much will, as stated already, spike your insulin levels so moderation is a good idea. Further, juice as good as it tastes is right up there with coke.. too much sugar and the vitamin balance does NOT justify things out enough to make it a healthy choice--that is unless you are making celery and broccoli juice i guess! Far FAR too many calories, people drink excessive amounts because they are under the impression they are drinking something healthy and tasty, and people wonder why they can't ever lose weight... must be genetics! ;)

Yep we're all agreed now (I think). :1orglaugh

Si 02-09-2012 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 18748378)
Sodium nitrite is in both regular and turkey bacons according to oscar mayer. They also add some dextrose and other shit. It just doesnt have the strip of pig fat pretty much.

I dont mind either type because it's not even a once a week thing for me, but I just get tired of things like "there's no such thing as turkey bacon". Well, there's no such thing as pig bacon either until you create it with a knife and some processing, so people shouldnt waste their time on objecting to the name. Just have a slice of turkey then, it just doesnt look the same next to eggs.

:Oh crap I'm trying to cut that crap out. In theory you could probably make turkey bacon with just some turkey meat, not sure if it would work though.

But anyway, proper bacon (I've looked it up) when processed is wet cured in a pink salt which is what contains the sodium nitrite,

If you make it yourself you just get pork belly (for streaky bacon) or loin (for back bacon) trim off as much fat as possible, do 3 days (3 steps of 24 hours each) of salt curing (using kosher salt not the pink shit, or sea salt because it is too course) in the fridge to draw out the water, then after it has hardened you smoke it for about 2 or 3 hours in a smoker and out comes your bacon without nitrites!

Vjo 02-09-2012 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 18748465)
Lentils are great and probably the Cheapest meal you can make, its like a dollar for 2-3 nights worth of eating. Nutrabio.com for protein. Its the most bioavailable and lactose free protein on the market. Its basically pharmaceutical grade...wont cause ANY gastric issues. and if you have a BJ's or Costco they sell 10 lb bags of perdue flash frozen cleaned chicken breasts for 23 bux. no need to defrost them u just tossem on the george foreman and youre good to go.

I have to check lentals out. Your not the first to recommend them. Or maybe it was you in another thread. :)

So you are saying nutrabio.com would be a good first powder to buy. I want to start doing a powder.

In a nutshell, here is my deal and plan, I am going on the diet recommended here as I already eat most of the same stuff.

Cheese, (is a little ok or should I go cold turkey, as I said I eat maybe 1 to 1and1/2 LBs a week for years (counting pizza), bad I know, pasta ocassionally (terrible I know and only cause it is cheap) thats goes. Red meat goes, eat a lot of that too, sugar and corn syrup must go. Must I quit it 100%? :) If you read my other posts you know I WILL binge if it is around.

I guess fruit like bananas, dates ect is the answer or truvia as was recommended earlier.

All this coupled with starting a walking program. Maybe 5 days/week walk. Easy at first cause I dont want to get too tired. I live alone and cant sleep all the time. :)

But yeah, I am about 6'3 1/2 (80" reach :) for you mma'rs :) ) but I am around 300 prob about 305 and at double nickles now (55) it has to now go. I am starting to feel it. I prob dont have as much muscle mass anymore even tho I do all the housework, mow ect but at 55 it is too much weight.

So I will let you know how it goes. :) Thanks to the op. Lots of great info in this thread.

Si 02-09-2012 01:54 PM

Nuts are ok without salt if you get hazelnuts (filberts) or walnuts (whole they taste better than bits) they are pretty tasteless but throw them in a good natural/organic vanilla yoghurt and they are excellent. I can eat walnuts and filberts fine without any coating on them they are a pretty tame flavour.

Choopa Phil 02-09-2012 02:02 PM

Nutrabio is the best and the only powder I will ever use. Definitely give it a shot. Its carb, sugar, and filler free. Heres a 7% off coupon code - NB3731

Check out this cheese it comes highly recommended from a very credible source - http://www.lifetimecheese.com/produc...res/index.html

Vjo 02-09-2012 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Si (Post 18748534)
Nuts are ok without salt if you get hazelnuts (filberts) or walnuts (whole they taste better than bits) they are pretty tasteless but throw them in a good natural/organic vanilla yoghurt and they are excellent. I can eat walnuts and filberts fine without any coating on them they are a pretty tame flavour.

That is a great idea mixing them with yogurt :thumbsup

The devil is in the details and this thread gives you details :thumbsup

Yeah good advice on the salt. I also eat too many salted in the shell peanuts lol I am TERRIBLE I know. lol it is funny if it wasnt so sad.

But I think I can learn to like many nuts without salt. As a snack but dont over do them as someone said.

I obvously have to start counting calories but just removing all that cheese and red meat plus all refinded sugar/corn syrup.. should really help a lot. I dont eat much sugar/corn syrup but I get the feeling that just a little of that defeats the purpose and is the worst. Plus I will binge. If it isnt in the house I dont miss it. I make do.

At my weight now days I am good for about two major stores like Walmart and a Large groc store and then the weight is too much.

I am gen in good health but with that diet, no wonder I never lose. I never gain weight anymore and if I do it is easily removed, but with that diet I never lose, if I do happen to do some more exercise or something like mow.

I have maxed out at 318. About 305 now. If I go under 300 (had a chest cold last year and did) I really notice just that 5 LBs. If I go OVER 310 I begin to get in dangerous waters. The other day after pasta, 4oz dry weight over 4 days, not a ton but, I gained 3 LBs and was about 308. I went shopping, ate less and lost 3LB in one day.

So I really just want to get down 6 LBs to 299 to begin. That will be a big start. Only 6 LBs. Then I am on my way.

Vjo 02-09-2012 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 18748561)
Nutrabio is the best and the only powder I will ever use. Definitely give it a shot. Its carb, sugar, and filler free. Heres a 7% off coupon code - NB3731

Check out this cheese it comes highly recommended from a very credible source - http://www.lifetimecheese.com/produc...res/index.html

OK Thanks Phil I will order that. I appreciate it. :thumbsup

Ya know I am pretty strong mentally. I quit smoking cold turkey and other substances cold turkey, I think I can quit cheese. It is good stuff but yeah not that important. I could always go with fat free but I really like the savings. Cutting out cheese and red meat is at least $75/month. It needs to go. Obviously my arteries could use it.

I do drink lots of Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar and only drink water and maybe one beer/day. So that maybe counter acts the otherwise terrible fatty, high salt diet I have had.

I have always avoided nitrites and MSG and cook 100% for myself. Very little eating out so that prob has saved me. :) Rump roast has fairly low fat but is still red of course.

So cheese, red meat (cutting way down since I am doing a protein shake) and sugar/corn syrup are my first three targeted points to eliminate.

My older brother is 6'2 and about 190. He preaches "ground turkey, ground turkey" so gonna switch to that as I like my tacos.

That will be a good start. Ok thanks. I will let you all go now. Appreciate it.

Bryan G 02-09-2012 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18748057)
You're totally correct and Bryan should read more before he says it's bullshit and looks like a dork ;)

A dork eh? Lol you stuck in a time warp there dude? don't think I've heard that since the 80s lol. Anyhow my point still stands no one is gonna tell me fruit is bad for me. Fair enough it has sugar but it also has lots of fibre.

Vjo 02-09-2012 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 18748656)
A dork eh? Lol you stuck in a time warp there dude? don't think I've heard that since the 80s lol. Anyhow my point still stands no one is gonna tell me fruit is bad for me. Fair enough it has sugar but it also has lots of fibre.

:thumbsup I am gonna switch to bananas and maybe apples plus dates. Heck berries when in season are great! That is my plan of attack to replace the gummy bears. Ya have to have something sweet.

I realize you guys are talking more for guys who are already in top shape whether fruit is good, but for me it is surely good.

My "friend" he really does exist and really does know it all lol says, "wanna lose weight? Eat lots of bananas." :)

And he is prob right in a roundabout way. :)

Vjo 02-09-2012 04:06 PM

So I had a 5 cans of "fatty fish" in the cupboard incl two albacore tuna. Ohh that is good stuff.

Why buy beef? I hear ya. Ya need the fatty tho in the fish :thumbsup

My snack or is this a meal, whatever

1 can albacore tuna
Salad:
1/6 head iceberg lettuce
bit of sliced onion (love raw onions :))
1 TBLSP ranch dressing
and a slice of chedder 1/2 oz (I have to use it up)
skipped the croutons :)

Tall glass of Mini Soda tap. Nature's finest.

Lean and Mean! :thumbsup

seeric 02-09-2012 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BareBacked (Post 18747943)
Glad to hear he is doing well.

That is also good to hear you are taking care of yourself. $1300 a month for a trainer? You could just about lease a Ferrari for that lol. Good for you

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh So true. Except that Ferrari would get me into so much more bad things. Haha.

seeric 02-09-2012 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18748255)
When was the last time you were able to purchase it from him? From my conversations with him, he is no longer pursuing this.

It's been a bit. I bought a bunch of it the last time. Last year some time. I have two giant clear canisters of it vacuum sealed. He sent me some extras too from what I remember. I eat it a couple times a week.

SNRProductions 02-09-2012 08:27 PM

Sorta unrelated, sorta not, but I've been making some pretty mean protein waffles in the morning by loading them up with egg whites and they don't taste that different. Just a tip for anyone wanting to try something.

baddog 02-09-2012 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by seeric (Post 18748927)
It's been a bit. I bought a bunch of it the last time. Last year some time. I have two giant clear canisters of it vacuum sealed. He sent me some extras too from what I remember. I eat it a couple times a week.

I ate it daily up until last week when i ran out. I am now making it myself. Buckwheat and quinoa are in the dehydrator as we speak. Should be ready by Saturday morning when I get to add everything else. This should be interesting, but I got hooked on it.

facialfreak 02-09-2012 10:56 PM

Short answer: protein

There have been many studies done that have all concluded that eggs are a very good source of protein that your body can readily absorb with very little effort (as opposed to meat or legume proteins that your body must break down before absorbing).

Eating 2 tablespoons of peanut butter - right out of the jar will have a similar effect. Many children growing up on farms use the peanut butter trick before going out at 5am to begin their chores ...

Dirty F 02-10-2012 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 18748656)
A dork eh? Lol you stuck in a time warp there dude? don't think I've heard that since the 80s lol. Anyhow my point still stands no one is gonna tell me fruit is bad for me. Fair enough it has sugar but it also has lots of fibre.

No one is gonna deny that, dork.

Emil 02-10-2012 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Shannon G (Post 18745759)
The bacon and eggs are low-carb so your blood sugar level is remaining stable while you are also getting the protein you need to stay full and energized for the morning. Cereal can be good fiber, but the carbs will give you a sugar spike followed by a low. I love the stuff to death, but can't eat it because it makes me so sleepy and then I just want to eat more.

Me too! I cant work for 1-2 hours after my lunch unless I eat low carb food. I get too tired.


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