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TrashyContent 02-14-2012 08:41 PM

Ok...
 
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Originally Posted by Ross (Post 18759836)
None of us are in the office right now so it'll likely be tomorrow before someone checks your application. That email address will work for Phil, yeah.

Ok Ross... put a good word in for us :winkwink: I'm hoping to use your traffic force for our paysites too at some point... :thumbsup

gideongallery 02-14-2012 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 18756957)
the itunes of porn?? ;)

more like the youtube of porn

Paul Markham 02-15-2012 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 18758471)
What I don't understand though is how getting a 20-30% cut of your full scene content under this is any better than getting a 50-60% (tracking problems and other things) cut of your short promo clips from affiliates?

To be honest paysite sales are so bad now due to all the piracy and people giving away full scene stuff that I make a majority of my revenue from cams and dating. That started last year.

Stop thinking %. That thinking crucified online porn. 50-70% + all the support possible has made it a product that people don't buy.

would you prefer 5% of $1,000 or 50% of $35 plus all the support?

Ultimately the money that hits a bank account is what pays bills. Not the %.

20-30% of what and how many, is a situation no one will know until it's up and running. Assuming a big Tube generates $A a month in ad revenue, from B million uniques clicking C-D times is the only thing that tells anyone how many $$ this is going to be worth.

Would selling the Hi Res version for $1 and adding it to a basket of other Hi Res versions make even more money?

Money split 50/50 between PR and producer?

plateman 02-15-2012 06:00 AM

Nice work guys can't wait till I can send traffic to it

Relentless 02-15-2012 07:02 AM

Did someone hack paul's account?

That last post by him actually makes sense!

V_RocKs 02-15-2012 07:20 AM

Join up... Add 5 videos... See what happens... Multiply by the rest of your catalog... Decide what to do at that point.

PR_Phil 02-15-2012 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 18760492)
Join up... Add 5 videos... See what happens... Multiply by the rest of your catalog... Decide what to do at that point.

this is the right mentality, throw up 5 or 10 vids, see what type of your content does well, then instead of saying "I added some vids and they didn't make me filthy rich" think to yourself, ok, these couple vids make me X$ per vid in a month, so if I ad my catalogue, in a year I can make X$ x total # of similar vids x 12 months. this isn't like pay per signup, it's not an instant gratification thing, it's a long term revenue share that can generate money from a video for months and months, and traffic to paysites for just as long, as well as generating a mass amount of brand awareness.

a.miles 02-15-2012 07:40 AM

I'm interested but have some questions.
Can someone from PR contact me please: xmile.inc [at] gmail [dot] com

PR_Phil 02-15-2012 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TrashyContent (Post 18759793)
Well I signed up for it Ross... not sure if I am approved or not yet lol...

Hopefully we can do some business... How do I contact Phil ?

Is it phil at pimproll dot com ???

Just wondering how we get the content to them, sent on a hard drive ?

Phil at porn dot com will work just fine!

I don't want to piss any of you guys off here, but I need to refer back to the thread title, if you'll notice, Dave said "Sneak Peek". The website is up, but the product which automates the process is not live. I have been working with producers for several months now, putting their stuff up and making them money, but Its been outside the system that we are building.

So, if you signed up at PaidPerView.com, then your account has not been approved yet, as like I said, we are still finishing it up. If you want to get a jump start, then email me, and I will get the agreement over to you and we can arrange for content delivery, create accounts with your program, and set stuff up ahead of time. Early next week I will start to activate the accounts of those who have joined, we just have a few more features to implement over the next couple days.

sadiedazzle 02-15-2012 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 18758815)
I have seen a lot of ups and downs in this biz, as have most folks.

To me, getting paid for impressions on our videos is great because that rewards us for having videos people want to watch on a super high traffic domain. Like I said, it was money we were not making previously so how can that be bad?

I feel fortunate that we are still around after 10 years to actually make any comments - and money - at all. Think about how many have gone the way of the dinosaur and disappeared forever only leaving some scant fossil record of their achievements in this biz.

That may be so but like the Grateful Dead, first adopters do well but it is not necessarily a good business plan. Let us know if it works for you.

"Look up the wall, do it right, make a mistake,
you're going to pay for it twice"

IllTestYourGirls 02-15-2012 02:35 PM

So if i have an affilate program i can upload and the vids will be shown on all the hostedtube sites?

PR_Dave 02-15-2012 02:42 PM

If you add a sizable amount of videos you will end up with your own dedicated channel on porn.com

Paul Markham 02-15-2012 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 18760461)
Did someone hack paul's account?

That last post by him actually makes sense!

You will lose "bro" status by posting that. :1orglaugh

SZNY 02-15-2012 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 18761542)
If you add a sizable amount of videos you will end up with your own dedicated channel on porn.com

This one I like, we will tomorrow register, check it out and start upload clips from PornXN :thumbsup

IllTestYourGirls 02-16-2012 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 18761542)
If you add a sizable amount of videos you will end up with your own dedicated channel on porn.com

What happens if I only upload 20/30?

PR_Phil 02-16-2012 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 18763513)
What happens if I only upload 20/30?

there is no firm rule in place on this, it would certainly depend, I think if you uploaded 30 shitty quality clips that are in your library, but just random stuff and not that enticing, that wouldn't warrant a channel.

But if you uploaded 30 nice quality videos that fit together, (for example 30 videos from one exclusive paysite) and those videos are found to be interesting or popular by the viewers, that would certainly warrant a channel.

a channel has to provide something for the users, so if all it does is put together a list of clips people don't want to see, or a bunch of vids that really have no business being together, then it is pointless, if a person sees a vid they love, and it is associated with a channel, and they go to the channel, and see more videos they will love, then we have done our job. So with that in mind, it's not about a specific #.

Ross 02-16-2012 11:57 AM

Bump for Paid Per View

Paul Markham 02-16-2012 01:20 PM

Has anyone at PR thought of selling the single scenes in a hi res for a low price? As an addition to this idea.

This idea will win or lose on the money it generates. If it's a few dollars, people will just not bother. If it's a few hundred, people might. If it's thousands they will love it. So every avenue has to be explored.

PR_Phil 02-16-2012 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18763738)
Has anyone at PR thought of selling the single scenes in a hi res for a low price? As an addition to this idea.

Paul, I can't pretend to know why you are so on the ball on this one, but yes it is a good idea, yes it will happen, We do already have it in the works, so I can't give you full credit for it. But the good part is that because it is an initiated transaction that will in itself cover the bandwidth and other costs, the revenue split on it will be more in favor of the producer

Phil

Paul Markham 02-16-2012 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Phil (Post 18763825)
Paul, I can't pretend to know why you are so on the ball on this one, but yes it is a good idea, yes it will happen, We do already have it in the works, so I can't give you full credit for it. But the good part is that because it is an initiated transaction that will in itself cover the bandwidth and other costs, the revenue split on it will be more in favor of the producer

Phil

Don't want any credit. Just thinking making it more like a iTunes version of porn buying, is a good idea. Funnel people to other scenes by the same producer or similar content, have a single buy option and a basket option. But 5 for the price of 4. Etc.

The up sale to the main site is likely easier to come from a person who has seen the full Hi Res version or versions. Alternatively they can come back and buy when they want like C4S.

JFK 02-16-2012 02:02 PM

100........Game Changers

Relentless 02-16-2012 02:09 PM

Paul it's also more like iTunes that way. It seems to me once their payment information is in place... no need to go enter it each time they want to buy a 1080p downloadable scene. Just One Click. My guess is the HD download upsell will eventually generate more revenue than the views money and the traffic money combined.... Eager to see it all live. :2 cents:

Gerco 02-16-2012 02:11 PM

Seems like a fair enough deal to me. Cheaper than paying out 50% RS for life to an affiliate without the hosting, extra content creation blah blah. Signed up and will toss some video at it.

PR_Phil 02-16-2012 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18763844)

The up sale to the main site is likely easier to come from a person who has seen the full Hi Res version or versions.

you are right again

Paul Markham 02-17-2012 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Phil (Post 18763875)
you are right again

Ban this guy. :1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 18763866)
Paul it's also more like iTunes that way. It seems to me once their payment information is in place... no need to go enter it each time they want to buy a 1080p downloadable scene. Just One Click. My guess is the HD download upsell will eventually generate more revenue than the views money and the traffic money combined.... Eager to see it all live. :2 cents:

It will be an interesting test to see how it works. Can the Tube generate enough traffic, what will be the ratios, what will be the split of the money.

Then will others follow?

Online spending is rising all the time, high street shops are closing in the UK at a rate of 14 a day, partly due to online retail increasing. I suspect it's increasing in the US and rest of the EU. Time to find a model we can tap into this model and stop looking for excuses.

a.miles 02-17-2012 07:36 AM

so i signed up....

While i understand the service is still "work in progress" i don't understand why contact information are not provided?

When clicking on "upload" i get the message "Upload coming soon. Get in touch with us to get your videos online." But there's no email address or any other form of contact provided.
I have emailed one of the PR people on this thread, but no replies to my questions...

I know you guys are busy but you should offer a better service for those who are willing to come on-board and be part of your service and help in its success...

cheers!

PR_Phil 02-17-2012 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by a.miles (Post 18765303)
so i signed up....

While i understand the service is still "work in progress" i don't understand why contact information are not provided?

When clicking on "upload" i get the message "Upload coming soon. Get in touch with us to get your videos online." But there's no email address or any other form of contact provided.
I have emailed one of the PR people on this thread, but no replies to my questions...

I know you guys are busy but you should offer a better service for those who are willing to come on-board and be part of your service and help in its success...

cheers!

I apologize that we (I) have not gotten back to you, I posted earlier in this thread that I would not be getting back to people or approving accounts until next week. However I will go through any emails I have and respond to them today, I will still be avoiding approving accounts until Tuesday (Monday is a holiday here in Canada)

I will also get some contact info posted on the site.

DWB 02-19-2012 11:24 AM

The videos allowed to be watermarked or do they have to be clean?

PR_Dave 02-19-2012 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18768982)
The videos allowed to be watermarked or do they have to be clean?

Watermark is fine if you have an affiliate program we can sign up to and link to using our affiliate link.


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