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tony286 02-15-2012 11:06 AM

I can see them making nukes. They see countries with nukes get treated very differently no matter what shit they say or do than ones without.

Rochard 02-15-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18760987)
Iran has never threatened anyone. Quit buying into the propaganda...and how many times have politicians threatened Iran?

I said that in my post - Iran has never attacked another country. Iran has the right to have nuclear power, and the rest of the world has the right to inspect it.

alextokyo 02-15-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by asdasd (Post 18760770)

bonethugsarecoolandallbutwhateverhappenedtothat
ultramegatuurrbboopowercracknigga
thatcouldgolike500wordspermminnuutttttee??!

Edit - nevermind, spotted at 1.53

MaDalton 02-15-2012 11:10 AM

how about no one has nukes? sounds like a crazy idea, but...

Roald 02-15-2012 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 18761013)
There are 100's of others.....

Mostly reactions in reply to :2 cents:

50 bombs!

alextokyo 02-15-2012 11:17 AM

Speedstackinggirl is fucking begging for itttttt :jerkoff

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MaDalton 02-15-2012 11:31 AM


Overload 02-15-2012 11:33 AM

IL shud better not forget pakis HAVE THE BOMB ...

Overload 02-15-2012 11:41 AM

its all about
http://home.no/bravedigger/ILTERROR.jpg

heek 02-15-2012 11:58 AM

When it all boils down to it, I don't think any one country should have control over 20%+ of the world's oil economy... I don't give a shit what any media says, at all. In my eyes, everyone's out to make a buck at someone else's expense, USA included. People need to pull their heads out of their asses and fix our local problems before trying to play God to the rest of the world. Ya dig?

Just Alex 02-15-2012 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18760874)
The problem is that the rest of the world has the right to inspect and approve of such technology. It's very simple - what Russia does in a nuclear power plant can have far reaching implications three thousand miles away in Europe, as well as the rest of the world. We saw this first hand with the Chernobyl disaster. The rest of the world needs to know the plants that any one country is building is safe.

Really? And Israel just did that back in the 60's when they developed theirs? Remember what happened to the whistle blower guy?
Oh wait, those rules don;t apply to jews, because they are our friends.

Rochard 02-15-2012 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18761183)
Really? And Israel just did that back in the 60's when they developed theirs? Remember what happened to the whistle blower guy?
Oh wait, those rules don;t apply to jews, because they are our friends.

The same rules should apply to both countries.

Iran is building nuclear power plants and refusing to allow anyone to inspect them. Israel has two nuclear reactors and allows them to inspect them. Well, I'm assuming Israel allows the IAEA to inspect them, and if they refuse, Israel should be bitch smacked. (It's disappointing that the UN isn't already bitch smacking Israel for building on land that isn't legally theirs, but you know how that goes - The US supports Israel in the UN, and Russia supports their friends [Syria] in the UN.)

Nuclear weapons don't apply to this conversation. Nuclear weapons aren't subject to the same rules or regulations, or inspections.

asdasd 02-15-2012 01:37 PM

Spot on Rochard very accurate statements filled with reason and logic.

Just Alex 02-15-2012 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18761373)
The same rules should apply to both countries.
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Should, but do they? Israel can build what ever the fuck they want and as many as they want. You really think iran can get away with building 50 nuclear warheads and tell the rest of the world to go fuck themselves because they are the chosen people and have the right to blow up this planet if they feel like being threatened? Oh please.



http://www.haaretz.com/news/un-body-...pection-1.7603

DaddyHalbucks 02-15-2012 02:05 PM

Iran has been begging for it since 1979.

They are one of the top exporters of terror.

MediaGuy 02-15-2012 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18761373)
The same rules should apply to both countries.

Iran is building nuclear power plants and refusing to allow anyone to inspect them. Israel has two nuclear reactors and allows them to inspect them. Well, I'm assuming Israel allows the IAEA to inspect them, and if they refuse, Israel should be bitch smacked. (It's disappointing that the UN isn't already bitch smacking Israel for building on land that isn't legally theirs, but you know how that goes - The US supports Israel in the UN, and Russia supports their friends [Syria] in the UN.)

Nuclear weapons don't apply to this conversation. Nuclear weapons aren't subject to the same rules or regulations, or inspections.

Iran isn't refusing to allow anyone to inspect them; this is sorta like Saddam refusing UN WMD inspectors access to his country - bullshit. The inspectors were kicked out of Iraq by Bush so he could claim provocation and maintain deniability.

There's an IAEA inspection in Iran this week as a matter of fact.

Israel does not undergo IAEA inspections, because it is not a NPT signatory and are presumed not to have a nuclear arsenal.

But while Israel doesn't deny Nuclear Weapons capability, it doesn't acknowledge either. They won't sign the non-proliferation treaty - they maintain a "nuclear ambiguity" policy or some such bullshit.

Iran on the other hand has signed on to the NPT, but pressure from the US years before Iran was able to enrich their fuel to 20% (which isn't one-fifth what they need for weaponization) caused them to be ruled as "non compliant".

The West or more particularly the US has been trying to pick a fight with Iran for a long time.

Dirty F 02-15-2012 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 18760221)
They said last week they had an announcement.

No link yet, its just a headline on BBC.

What does America have to do with that exactly?
I mean, that's what you're aiming at right?

Rochard 02-15-2012 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18761418)
Should, but do they? Israel can build what ever the fuck they want and as many as they want. You really think iran can get away with building 50 nuclear warheads and tell the rest of the world to go fuck themselves because they are the chosen people and have the right to blow up this planet if they feel like being threatened? Oh please.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/un-body-...<br /> 1.7603

This article seems to tell us that Israel has not opened up all of their nuclear sites. If we are talking about active (or even inactive for that matter) nuclear power plants then Israel needs to smacked around a bit.

And if they continue to refuse, they should have similar sanctions to what Iran is having.

I know the US plays favorites, but I believe all countries should be treated the same.

asdasd 02-15-2012 02:27 PM

It's pretty pathetic watching the lies required to defend Israel and America.

MediaGuy 02-15-2012 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18760978)
While Iran has never attacked another country, it's also threatened to destroy Israel on a regular basis

This is another odd myth that though parroted in the mainstream media here through misquotes and quoting out of context, has never actually been the case.

The closest they've come to this sort of statement is that Israel will eliminate itself, will auto-destruct and statements similar to "the zionist chapter of the history of the middle east is about to come to a close" blablabah and other arab hyperbole.

They've never actually said they want to, or will, act to destroy Israel.

Shedevils 02-15-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18761183)
Really? And Israel just did that back in the 60's when they developed theirs? Remember what happened to the whistle blower guy?
Oh wait, those rules don;t apply to jews, because they are our friends.

.

The juice have hundreds of warheads including many based on German made submarines that give them an unstoppable first strike capability.

Pretty much every citizen of every Arab nation is currently targeted by a juice warhead right now. Certainly every one living in a major city.

And as well cities in Russia and the NATO capitols are all rumored to be targeted just to make sure that thing go the right way.

papill0n 02-15-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 18761441)
Iran has been begging for it since 1979.

They are one of the top exporters of terror.

2nd only to the USA you brainwashed piece of shit

directfiesta 02-15-2012 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 18761013)
There are 100's of others.....

damn you are stupid ...:2 cents:

Rochard 02-15-2012 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MediaGuy (Post 18761456)
Iran isn't refusing to allow anyone to inspect them; this is sorta like Saddam refusing UN WMD inspectors access to his country - bullshit. The inspectors were kicked out of Iraq by Bush so he could claim provocation and maintain deniability.

There's an IAEA inspection in Iran this week as a matter of fact.

There might be some truth in what you just said:

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Previously, the IAEA complained that Tehran had not fully co-operated with its inspectors, though it did say that Iran had displayed "greater transparency" during an inspection visit in August 2011.
(link)

So we know there was an inspection in 2011.

So far as I'm concerned, if you have any kind of nuclear activity, the IAEA should have a full time office on site. The nuclear power plant outside of Phoenix? Right across the street they should put an IAEA with unlimited access to everything. Mexico - and even Canada - has rights too.

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Originally Posted by MediaGuy (Post 18761456)
Israel does not undergo IAEA inspections, because it is not a NPT signatory and are presumed not to have a nuclear arsenal.

But while Israel doesn't deny Nuclear Weapons capability, it doesn't acknowledge either. They won't sign the non-proliferation treaty - they maintain a "nuclear ambiguity" policy or some such bullshit.

If if this the case, then Israel should have the same sanctions Iran has. However, you saying they don't allow IAEA inspections and then talking about a nuclear arsenal in the same sentence. The IAEA inspections are for nuclear power plants, not nuclear weapons.

Israel isn't required to be a part of the NPT (nuclear non-proliferation treaty). The NPT states that if a country refuses to build or have nuclear weapons, peaceful nuclear technology will be shared with them. This treaty is in place to encourage countries like Iran not to have nuclear weapons, and to properly assist them in creating nuclear power - win win for everyone. Israel hasn't signed the treaty, and gets it's nuclear power technology from where ever. Seems to me Israel doesn't take nuclear power too seriously.

Does Israel have nuclear weapons? I'd bet my next paycheck they do. (And I bet you the US helped them.) But whatever already. Nuclear weapons are pretty much a last resort. You nuke another country, you can kiss everything goodbye.

Just Alex 02-15-2012 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18761488)
Israel needs to smacked around a bit.

How dare you to suggest this? Smack a jew and you will bring the holocaust comparison back. This just anti-Semitic !
Ok maybe just a bit. Smack their little tooshie "bad Israel, bad Israel".
But hey, its a lot easier to talk about Iran and how they are threatening our freedom, and whats more importantly the livelihood of our precious friend Israel.

MediaGuy 02-15-2012 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18761532)


If if this the case, then Israel should have the same sanctions Iran has. However, you saying they don't allow IAEA inspections and then talking about a nuclear arsenal in the same sentence. The IAEA inspections are for nuclear power plants, not nuclear weapons.

Actually, not so. IAEA is under the NPT umbrella and its function is to ensure proper civilian application of nuclear technology, and that there isn't any diversionary development towards military/weapons application, although since it's a voluntary process surely secret plans to do this wouldn't necessarily be detectable. But there's indicators, such as Israel's own production of fissionable material, which is way off the scale for it's 2 power plants as well as not being on the medical isotope market's radar... so what else is it for?

And though they aren't signatories they constantly gripe about Iran's non-compliance, which appear to be fabrications, and other IAEA/NPT "violations" though they themselves don't follow any of that.

Yeah, they should be sanctioned or pressured but they probably won't be. Nukes are political, not tactical, weapons, and sometimes it's not even important to actually have them as long as other nations *think* you do (look at North Korea - one year they do, one year they don't).

:D

asdasd 02-15-2012 03:37 PM

I tend to aim all farts in the direction of Israel.

asdasd 02-15-2012 05:28 PM

what he said

Rochard 02-15-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18761949)
Where did you dream this crap up? Solders send their money home because most have families and even when they're deployed they have a PX. Besides, the real military spending is in private contractors who build the equipment for the soldiers abroad. Soldiers aren't building tanks, planes, ships, tankers etc., but American citizens in small cities spread across the US and cities around huge military bases.

Obviously I make this shit up. It's not like I spent four years of my life in a Marine infantry unit or anything.

Not all soldiers have families, in fact, most don't. In the first four years of military service, only ten percent of our military is married - and that makes up the vast bulk of our military. Those that are married usually send their wives home to live with family - no sense renting an apartment if half the family is out of the country. When a unit goes out on deployment - for war or whatever - military towns are hit hard. When ten thousand people suddenly leave town on deployment, it's felt hard.

When we went on deployment, everyone took the insurance off their cars, put them on blocks, and parked them in a huge parking lot. All of the soldiers that do go don't spend money locally - they don't buy gas, eat out, buy cigarettes, and what not.

As for the contractors who make equipment... Do you think that when we are not at war we don't build tanks, trucks, planes, etc? I guess you think our military - when not off at war - hides in the barracks, lower the blinds, and play titiddlywinks? You understand that every day of four years I either drove or rode in a tank, truck, amtrac, or helio? Right? It's not like we go to war and suddenly place orders for ten thousand new tanks.

Overload 02-15-2012 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18761949)
If we cut back military spending it would be as if the local factory closed. As all symbiotic businesses would also close, property devalues, shares holders pension plan devalue, etc. We saw this happen before when Clinton cut back the military and whole defense contractor towns just dried up. Hell, California even sold a navel port to the Chinese government for a new import center.

if the US had spend 650 BILLION bucks on green technology you'd have way more jobs than you have now ... you really think war is the way to make money? :error zionist brainwashing at its finest ... US fellas really think they fight for freedom ... they DONT :2 cents:

asdasd 02-15-2012 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18762072)
Obviously I make this shit up. It's not like I spent four years of my life in a Marine infantry unit or anything.

Not all soldiers have families, in fact, most don't. In the first four years of military service, only ten percent of our military is married - and that makes up the vast bulk of our military. Those that are married usually send their wives home to live with family - no sense renting an apartment if half the family is out of the country. When a unit goes out on deployment - for war or whatever - military towns are hit hard. When ten thousand people suddenly leave town on deployment, it's felt hard.

When we went on deployment, everyone took the insurance off their cars, put them on blocks, and parked them in a huge parking lot. All of the soldiers that do go don't spend money locally - they don't buy gas, eat out, buy cigarettes, and what not.

As for the contractors who make equipment... Do you think that when we are not at war we don't build tanks, trucks, planes, etc? I guess you think our military - when not off at war - hides in the barracks, lower the blinds, and play titiddlywinks? You understand that every day of four years I either drove or rode in a tank, truck, amtrac, or helio? Right? It's not like we go to war and suddenly place orders for ten thousand new tanks.

Nobody cares what the wall street people have to say about corruption, substitute that with murder.

asdasd 02-15-2012 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Overload (Post 18762085)
if the US had spend 650 BILLION bucks on green technology you'd have way more jobs than you have now ... you really think war is the way to make money? :error zionist brainwashing at its finest ... US fellas really think they fight for freedom ... they DONT :2 cents:

They fight to maintain status quo enslavement. Mind and body. Lock and stock.

BFT3K 02-15-2012 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18762119)
Green energy? Seriously? You need to wake up and realize this is a distant pipe dream. The Chinese would rather invested real earnings of $1.6 trillion in a very week US economy then develop innovative, possible life changing green economy? Think again.

Yeah, the Chinese hate green technologies...

http://www.industryweek.com/articles...ent_21415.aspx

HighlyIntoxicated 02-15-2012 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18762093)
As always splitting hairs. Clinton proved you can reduce our overall Military spending as it paid off our debt and increase the public economy. Not only is this fact, we now can't reduce Military spending and build more military shit to keep the economy going. My point.

Anyway, what country needs 12 aircraft careers when the rest of the world combined has 4? I think we need to sell 6 of them and put that money towards, I don't know, better public school? Fuck it, how about we just build imaginary military widgets and just keep handing out welfare tax dollars to the military industrial complex?

they can't invest in schools because once they start educating the general public, they won't have any uneducated soldiers to fight for them. The american school system is terrible for a reason.

Overload 02-15-2012 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18762119)
Green energy? Seriously? You need to wake up and realize this is a distant pipe dream. The Chinese would rather invested real earnings of $1.6 trillion in a very week US economy then develop innovative, possible life changing green energy/economy? Think again.

i dont need to rethink ... but the US folks need to realise they are used as TOOLS :2 cents: ppl in the 3rd reich had more freedom than you have now :(

Overload 02-15-2012 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18762126)
Yeah, the Chinese hate green technologies...

http://www.industryweek.com/articles...ent_21415.aspx

whew, thx for that link :thumbsup very interesting reading :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Phoenix 02-15-2012 07:05 PM

nuclear power and nuclear missiles..the whole thing is so stupid

you know when we should turn to nuclear power? on the moon, or perhaps mars.
Down here on earth it is just the easy way out.

having nukes is crazy as well...you dont even need them in this day and age...there are all kinds of cool bombs that dont have to ruin the earth for 50,000 years

_Richard_ 02-15-2012 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18761459)
What does America have to do with that exactly?
I mean, that's what you're aiming at right?

god fucking dammit, nice fucking sig

moeloubani 02-15-2012 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18762152)
Yep, we are such tools and controlled by a reich, the reich just allowed me to buy my first full auto machine gun less then a week ago. Meaning, we still have options to do something if we like? What are your options? Harsh language?

So wait what are your options? Buying guns? How is that any different than harsh language, the only difference is what you do costs money. You seem to think the guns represent you being able to fight back against the government but you forget that although the guns are legal, fighting the government with them is not. So your legal gun is just about as good as any illegal gun when it comes down to it.


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