Sorry. The entire muslim world turning against us wouldn't destroy the US.

Nor would we need to use enough nukes to destroy the entire world to win.

Would we lose a lot? Yep. Would a lot of Americans die? Yep. Would there be deaths on American soil? For a while...until it was clear that it was a Worldwide Muslims vs America war. Then we would throw them all out or imprison them all.

In the end, the US would be alive and every muslim country on the planet that was part of the Muslim Coalition To Openly Attack the US would be dead.

Ah, so you're not talking about turning the entire muslim world into glass and ash, as you so elegantly put it, but rather throw the entire world into chaos for many decades to come.

You seem to miss the point that a scenario like that will know no "winner". Sure, the muslim countries would be changed. Terrorism would get itself a nice new definition though. One that involves the whole western world getting it a lot harder than Israel has it now. Joy.

Nobody said anything about destroying the US. Think along the lines of mass destruction and death across the entire world and you're getting a bit closer.

Nor did anyone say anything about a muslim coalition consisting of countries. Think along the lines of Al Qaeda times 1000 and and you're getting closer.

I am satisfied that you would like us to stand by, hold our fire, and allow our enemies, current and future, to take potshots at us or attempt to bring down our country, but we will not allow that, thank you very much. Only the plumb dumb would even attempt it and someone that dumb does not deserve to take up space on this planet anyhow.

Just so you know, I support the idea of disarming Saddam. Do you not understand the fact that, if this fakery on the part of the British turns out to be true, it calls into question the credibility of EVERYTHING both the Brits and the Americans?

I repeat again - I support the idea of disarming Saddam. I hope Americans know the costs this could involve. I do not share your obvious wet dream of a war against Islam. I also am not so stupid as to think that countries which do not agree with our approach are America-haters. I find myself in horrible company these days ...

Well please answer this for the many concerned international board visitors here:

What the hell is wrong with so many Americans these days then??

It appears to me as if someone said something along those lines.

I do not have wet dreams of a war against Islam, period. My repsonse was in response to this.

I am about destroying people that kill us (enemies).

Has it ever occurred to you that there are more tactics besides world war and mass destruction?
Despite your sick little fantasies, world war 3 is generally considered a bad thing by most people. Maybe you would like to see millions of people die, but I for one do not share that fetish.

This sounds like "if some of them piss us off we will commit genocide". Especially since not all muslims support terrorism.

They've watched too many Rambo-movies, and do not realize it's real people dying.

I like to keep it simple. Attempt to kill me and I will not only kill you but anyone and everyone that has aided you in your effort.

Two quick points I would like to make
1. Bush is a disgrace to the United States of America.
2. America has done more in 200 years than most countries have in 2000 years. Jealousy is a bitch, so I don't blame the haters.

I've watched those movies and I haven't gone mental

What is it about the US psyche and violence?

There seems to be this paranoia that permeates US society and naturally extends into international politics. "Us against them". Am I right?

Yeah. You are absolutely right. Infants in arabic countries should be slaughtered by the masses for "aiding" Al Qaeda.

you miss the point

it's nothing close to jealousy

it's concern

didn't you read the clinton thread? we used to all get along

then you voted in a madman

and he seems to have poisened the minds of a lot of the population

Those movies weren't about "your" people and "your" country fighting "evil" foreigners.

Bush is a madman, no question about it. What you guys have to understand is that the American people believe being a patriot means standing behind their leader, and unfortunatly, we have a crazy single minded lunatic as our leader right now. So not everyone agrees with Bush the moron, but they will stand behind him for the sake of being a patriot.

He is going to do damage to this country that will be felt for many years after he is gone. I don't know if I even have a point to make about this anyways...Just ranting...I hate Bush with a passion.

What do you think war is about. "Civilians" were specifically targeted and killed by the millions in the Second World War by all sides. Civilians on a lesser scale were specifically targeted in the Korean war and the same in the Vietnam war. Civilians are a legitimate target in any major conflict as it is the civilians that provide the ability for the military to wage war. Even when cilvilians are not specifically targeted they, unforturnately sometimes get in the way.

very interesting

thanks :)

I guess the best we can do is ride it out, and hope it doesn't get too bumpy

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YO!

100.

damn
I cant believe I missed that

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biatch :glugglug

ok, time for work. goodbye gfy

That says enough for me. You are a miserable excuse for a human being, worth little more than the shit I almost stepped in today.

If you see targetting children as a "legitimate strategy", I sincerely hope you die as soon as humanly possible.

word.

New American Century
http://www.newamericancentury.org/

issshhhhh :(

This is the real world and the wars are real wars. I live in the real world. I do not know what world you live in. Why do you think civilians are targeted in every major conflict and as was the case during the Second World War killed by the millions and of course that includes babies.

I repeat if a country/peoples does not want to reap the wild wind then do not make yourself our enemies and we will not destroy you.

Does anyone notice just how little coverage the "plagarized" intelligence report is getting in the US media? Don't forget that this report was one that Colin Powell used and referred to in his speech to the UN! That should be headline news. But instead the CIA-infiltrated US mass media is sweeping this one under the rug (what else would they do?).

CNN has buried their article somewhere in their world page. It does not appear as a headline on their main page. Other US media outlets have followed a similar course.

Did you also notice how Bushie and his henchmen immediately issued a Terror Alert (to level Orange) within HOURS of this story being broken by UK Channel Four? Can anyone say "classic misdirection"?

This scam gets more pathetic by the day. Josef Goebels would be proud. For those that know no history, he was Hitler's propaganda minister.

CNN Article on Plagarized Report

Wrong. You are about hate and getting a fucking hard on anytime bombs are dropped. Unfortunately the powers to be in this country have the same mindset as you and thus this world stands a very good chance of never being the same in a few short years, and when it does happen I hope you're very proud of yourself.

The Geneva convention specifically forbids the deliberate targetting of civilians and other non-combatants during a war. The US is a signatory to that convention. What you propose amounts to a war crime.

Goebels would be very proud of you and all of the others on this board with the "Massive Cock" mindset.

Legitimate. That's the keyword here. You see it as a <b>legitimate</b> practice. Purposely killing the innocent is something I still consider as murder, plain and simple.

Again, you are a despicable excuse for a human being.

The articles of the Geneva convention are routinely violated in any major conflict by all combatants involved. In addition it is only the losers that ever get punished for war crimes. This is the real world not some idealistic wanna be world. I have not made any proposals that I am aware of.

You are right on target, Thunderball. Mini-Bush and his junta are leading the world into a very sad and very dangerous historical shift. They are so deluded by their past success that they think they can continue to stomp on the rest of the world with impunity. That is what Hitler thought. He also launched a "pre-emptive" war and the world fought back.

The world will fight back again this time and they will do it with much more sophisticated weaponry and brutal tactics. 911 was a cakewalk compared to what bad karma Bush is creating for this nation.

500,000 Iraqi civilians could be reduced to burnt out corpses as a result of direct and indirect effects of a lighting fast war. The US has already said it would use microwave weapons to knock out eletrical power in the entire country. They will target every water treatment plant like they did in 1991. They will destroy roads and civil infrastructure. Food distribution will come to a halt. Over 10 million Iraqis will be without potable water, according to UN projections. This will be the greatest humanitarian disaster of the last 60 years. A billion muslims around the world will see the REAL footage of this disaster on Al-Jezeera while Americans see a heavily censored version (bridges blowing up by smart bombs) on CNN. As usual, Americans will scratch their heads and ask "Why do they hate us?". A billion muslims around the world will respond, "Well why the fuck do you think we hate you?!?". What they do after that will be predictable and unfortunate.

Can anyone say "suitcase nukes?".

Pakistan already has nukes. Iran and Syria most likely have them as well. Each of these countries are filled with millions of angry young men just itching to get involved. Instead of working to reverse the anger that is already there, we are going to stoke the flames by a factor of 10,000.

Utterly stupid.

I see it as a legitimate military excercise. War is not a game. War is about death and destruction. The quicker that one can prevent the enemy from having the ability to continue to wage war in fact saves lives for all combatants involved. Once again this is the real world and wars are real wars and they are brutal.

You are not aware of your proposal to reduce millions of people to glass and ash?

Looks like your memory is as weak as your heart.

Congratulations. You have replaced Gollum as the most pathetic creature to have ever walked the earth.

Dumb fuck I stated what would be fact. It was suggested that the entire muslim world would or will unite against us. I responded with the "ash and glass". The United States will not allow itself to be taken down without responding in a massive way including the use of nukes. You fucking people live in some kind of a fantasy world.

I couldnt agree with you more. This is going to sound strange and some may think I'm nuts but I dont give a shit, you can take it for what its worth. My child was killed in a car accident a year and a half ago, a few months after that I started having dreams of him showing me major terrorist attacks on the US including Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Denver, New York, and DC. These werent 9/11 type attacks, some were nuclear plant melt downs and some were chemical attacks and millions were killed.
I've had these dreams at least 5 times and within three weeks after the first one 9/11 happened, so that really freaked me out.
Now all this shit with what Bush is doing is really making me wonder if there isnt something to this, I really hope not but it is pretty fucking strange.