Can't wait to hear all your excuses when you fail. :2 cents:

the problem is there are soooo many tube sites.

I have seen the same said about TGP's and paysites for years now. lol

But people still launch them every day! However it isn't overnight things succeed.

Who said anything about thinking? Please don't flatter your self thinking I did that for you. I was simply making a joke about your content surviving a paytube model...

But I'm sure your idea is grand. Talk to Sleazy he might need a traffic partner for YesSignals.

1K for the script, 500 for the design... and then?

Now you need someone who knows what they are doing to provide quality exclusive content, video player improvements, on-page SEO work for the site, backlinks, along with a lot of other work if you intend to actually build any traffic to the site. Posting 'sponsor content videos' that use duplicate titles and text with little or no SEO work done on your site makes it no better than 10000s of other partial tubes and is not going to rank you for much.

If you do not intend to do *all* the work needed to build a successful tube, I'd strongly recommend you go with a HostedTube.com site instead. There is a huge difference between a properly made full tube and a hostedtube, there is almost no difference between a partially made full tube and a hosted tube.

1) A Well made full tube will run you 5K and up (unless you do much of the work yourself)
2) A Partially made full tube that has no real chance of success is 1-3K
3) A HostedTube is $7 for the domain and no BW or management costs

You are looking to outsource all the work, correct?
Build a full tube the right way, or get a hostedtube instead and save your money. :2 cents:

I really hope when I retire I can stop working.

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This is a business motherfucker, not a luxury sedan. :321GFY

too complicated. the magic of paul's content will pull in surfers like a cookie buffet would to a fat kid.

I set one up a couple years ago, was about $200 for the script, dedicated server can run from 100-300 a month or more depending on what you're looking for. I would suggest 10 or 100 mbps unmetered bandwidth included for a tube site.

some good info in this thread anyway.

fitty tube sites

My response was in response to another guy quoting an oooold post from when MB was still 1500 :) I know it's more expensive. In Paul's case though he has a bunch of content already so he really just needs the script, layout, hosting, and eventually text work/labour to add all his stuff if he doesn't do it himself.

I'm up to a whopping seven dollars on this current incarnation of that script. Friends, i've got.

:1orglaugh Gold.

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Far too many all the same and with little reason to go to, little reason to stay and even less reason to buy something. So much talk about working it and getting traffic to make money. Adding new videos, automated and approved submitters, SEO that can be done by anyone with the skills and not expensive, sourcing "quality exclusive content" that no sponsor will put on no other tube :upsidedow. Having the same submitted text on a video as 1,000 other Tubes. Well that's a daily job and can only be done by hand. So no turn key package will supply it.

Time is something I have in abundance. I'm unfit and often unwell enough to venture out. My problem isn't running out and choosing to wander to the shops, go on trips, etc. It's whether I will be fit enough to go walk the dog for 20-30 minutes.

I have no knowledge of SEO yet know a man who does. I do have an very good knowledge of porn and what sells, need that to survive 35 years in any business. I get the distinct feeling that many are clueless on this subject. Their main sales approach is just sending more people to a blog, SEO, TGP or site. Because selling to more of the people already arriving is beyond their comprehension.

I do not want a hosted tube. I will leave that to the people happy to throw 36K of uniques to a Tube for 1 sale or a few dollars from a traffic seller.

Just pray you can afford to retire. Do you have a fund building steadily that will allow you to do this?

Obviously there are different prices for different levels. I'm looking at this as an idea at the moment and getting some quotes. Obviously the proliferation of Tubes tells me that they can be cheap. Why a $2 k one would have a better success than a $5 one is down to the person working it, what makes it unique and how well it sells.

Anyone stepping into an arena with 1,000s of competitors needs something better than an off the shelf package.

Getting traffic is the easy part. I could get 1,000 uniques a day within a very short time.

I thought Paul was retired with $6k a month passive income from his paysites, a pension and a working wife. Certainly he doesn't need to worry about a tube, right?

why do it for 500 when many can do 1:500 for much bigger numbers

who is the smarty now !

Honestly, why do you say this in every post? YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS CLUELESS. HELLOOOO???????? Stick to content and mags.

this is how paul markham operates every time he asks a question

he will ask a question, state he knows nothing and then tell anyone who replies that they are clueless on the subject

its actually so pathetic it's funny :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

he's still telling us how easy traffic is to get.

doesnt have any nor ever had any but its easy to get

doesnt sell anything but knows what sells

it just goes on and on :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

pull your teeth out and suck me dry paul

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Holy shit! The guy actually posted some common sense for once! Good luck with your tube Paul, I know you like to put work into things online.

Hi-fucking-larious! :1orglaugh

Did I say I was worried about it?

Still here's the situation. I'm pretty much house bound some days, like the last few days. My health is poor. I have a few hobbies that I do in the house, in the summer I will try to paint the house. With some help. I'm left with hours with little to do, so poking fun at morons is fun.

Plus like shooting the scene for Manwin, I wanted to know if I was fit enough, wanted to know if I still had what it took to shoot something worth while. Fit enough? No way, was laid up for days afterwards. Worthwhile? Well the surfers that saw it on the free site liked it. An old invalid still had something in his batteries.

So I have a kernel of an idea. It will take a few hours a day of my time and will prove to me if I still have it. You guys will never know about it or if I'm linked to it, until I decide to tell you.

The scene I shot for Manwin, if that scene had gone up with Madalton as the shooter, everyone would be praising him. Remember Damian and others slagging off content they thought was mine. Turns out it was shot by Michael Ancher and left a few with egg on their faces. And that's what I remember when reading most posts from idiots.

we might have shot it a little differently though :winkwink:

but you are certainly right when you say that people are now bashing you just because it's you, no matter what you do or say.

but did you ever wonder how it came to that?

Have it?

When do you "have it"?

What did you have?

Not long now, old timer. I'll ready the buffet & party hats. Say hello to Maddie for me. :glugglug

Best of luck with your new tube Paul.
I look forward to seeing your creation.
If you do manage to build a successful tube for a total price of 1-2K I will gladly start buying sites from you.

However, If you later decide you want a turn-key solution instead, just let me know.

On the personal, human side of things: sorry to hear you're house bound some days Paul. That's not fun for anyone, in any situation, so best of luck and hope that changes for you in the near future.

On the business side of things: try something mainstream and leave adult to the adults.

Yes I critisised the way they were doing things.

Told them they were buying crap content, which was often true, and letting affiliates rule the roost. And telling them that online porn was never as big as offline porn. Even you would never accept that. Even though you had no real knowledge of offline porn. Truth is most thought the size of offline porn was the size of the producers. :upsidedow

12 years later they can see how well they managed to do. Now that must really piss them off.

Nicky can you explain why getting traffic is hard please. I get 1,000s of hits to my sites doing no work so ever. Others get 1,000s of hits to unused domains and now put a hosted tube tube on it which is apparently a few hours work and that's it. There are millions of people surfing online. Getting 1,000s to visit a site doesn't take much work. Please explain how getting traffic is hard. If you can.

Thank you. It's worse in the winter, when summers here I can get out more. If only to sit in the garden.

This idea may traverse to mainstream, but then not as a blog.

At the moment it's an idea I was thinking of. So needed some idea of budgets. TBH I would of thought your price fine, until seeing all the replies.

If I do do it with a turnkey solution I will never front the money to anyone. If they can't afford to, then I should not be doing business with them. If they don't trust me, they shouldn't be doing business with me. And not asking me to trust them.

Someone on the other end of that deal could just as easily argue "if they won't pay me half up front, they weren't planning on paying me at all"

I can't believe there are people who actually read your posts lol

If I were Jack Sparrow, or some other unknown I would agree. As I'm not and often the people asking me to front the money are unknowns, not Relentless, I stick by what I said. My reputation on delivering and paying is second to none.

Bako, why do you bother?

Thread closed.

Ive seen these and though not real Tubes, will be ideal for the project I'm planning.
http://www.freewptube.com/demo4/

http://www.freewptube.com/demo2/

http://wptube.jrwebstudio.com/

They would do the job perfectly.

not planning on putting 100,000 scenes on the Tube.

It's not only about the client ripping the developer off or not - it's about the fact that the client is then invested into the project. What if you change your mind? What if you cancel your project? What if somethign happens during development that changes the profitability/feasibility (ie you want a filehost developed and all those busts start happening and you panic)?

I had a client pull this a few months ago...repeat client, we probably did $10k of work for them over the course of the months before it. Then they sent us like 20 psd files, we quoted, they accepted, we did the work and they vanished like a fart in the wind. They were a repeat client so we didn't take a deposit because we trusted them.

Then they are clearly cunts and deserve to be named and shamed. Then found and sued.

And if the same happens the other way around?

It goes 2 ways. What if the work wasn't completed and the developer disappeared, or he changed his mind, or his idea of what was acceptable wasn't mine, what if he gets hit by a bus while working on the project. Yes 2 way street.

I would pay for work done as it's done.

I'm from a different school of business. For decades I produced work with nothing more than "Yes, she's nice shoot me a couple or three sets please." And I went to the costs of doing it. Sent the work in and got paid 3-6 months after.

Yes I know online is full of scammers and people who flake out or vanish like a fart. Which is why my money stays in my pocket until completion or stage completion.

Of course it works two ways, however you have the choice of working with a developer who is reputable and you trust, whereas the developer doesn't always have his choice of clients.

nice, hit me up if you need help with the design. good luck. :thumbsup

Lies. Post proof.

Getting a few 1000 is not that hard but if you think a tube with a couple 1000 a day is anything to make money from you are wrong unless you get those from really targeted niche SE traffic.

You will be using the freewptheme I see, ok let me know when your tube has a couple of 1000 uniques a day. Also how much money It's making.