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MaDalton 02-23-2012 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18776033)
Yes I critisised the way they were doing things.

Told them they were buying crap content, which was often true, and letting affiliates rule the roost. And telling them that online porn was never as big as offline porn. Even you would never accept that. Even though you had no real knowledge of offline porn. Truth is most thought the size of offline porn was the size of the producers. :upsidedow

12 years later they can see how well they managed to do. Now that must really piss them off.

no, i would certainly never accept that :winkwink:

and for a start because you keep throwing names of companies in the mix that mostly sell novelties - which is not porn.

Jack Sparrow 02-23-2012 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18776223)
If I were Jack Sparrow, or some other unknown I would agree. As I'm not and often the people asking me to front the money are unknowns, not Relentless, I stick by what I said. My reputation on delivering and paying is second to none.

Bako, why do you bother?

Unknown?

You seem to remember my name in every thread you make :)
And guess what they approach you in a similar fashion.

We brought it upon ourselfs. The only difference is: im not posting dumbass questions then argue with everyone that has experience on the question asked.

Thats why, dear ancient one, you will never setup a successfull biz again.

You are nothing more then a troll by now, like me, but you just dont want to realize it.

Paul Markham 02-23-2012 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 18776290)
Of course it works two ways, however you have the choice of working with a developer who is reputable and you trust, whereas the developer doesn't always have his choice of clients.

Yes it has to be done case by case. If I ask someone, then he can look at me and ask am I to be trusted, same as I can look at him and do the same.

Fletch, will do. Can you tinker around with WP themes? Banners, etc I know you're tops for.

Damian it was your thread, go find it.

Madalton, as I will never accept that online porn has ever reached the revenue of offline porn. It's far to big a hurdle to jump. Porn Shops, Cable, phone sex, magazines. All offline porn or would it be better to cut my list to fit your debate? :1orglaugh

Porn shops now sell a lot of novelties, thanks to the online people giving porn away. Think back to before the brainiacs decided that was how to sell porn.

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Originally Posted by nicky
Getting a few 1000 is not that hard but if you think a tube with a couple 1000 a day is anything to make money from you are wrong unless you get those from really targeted niche SE traffic.

You will be using the freewptheme I see, ok let me know when your tube has a couple of 1000 uniques a day. Also how much money It's making.

So you need to change the subject to making money to support your debate. Please stick to the subject. Well you have. You agree traffic is easy to get, getting enough to sell something is the problem. It took the brainiacs of online porn to create "bad traffic" as an excuse for 1,000s looking at free porn and not paying. :winkwink:

you are one of a big group who know getting traffic is easy, the hard part is getting enough for one to buy something. Offline porn was never so hard. :thumbsup

If the idea flies you will know.

Paul Markham 02-23-2012 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 18776965)
Thats why, dear ancient one, you will never setup a successfull biz again.

Young Grasshopper. I will never need to. :thumbsup

What was I disagreeing about? Not traffic because Nicky now agrees with me. All we have to do is get Roald to see sense.

Jakez 02-23-2012 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18776225)
Thread closed.

:1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18776225)
Ive seen these and though not real Tubes, will be ideal for the project I'm planning.
http://www.freewptube.com/demo4/

http://www.freewptube.com/demo2/

http://wptube.jrwebstudio.com/

Sorry but, those are all entirely, and nothing but... tubes. The headers say tube, the URL's say tube. I'm not sure how much more obvious it can get?

If you are that oblivious then you are honestly wasting your time and money trying to put together a tube site for profit. You really hardly even understand things online let alone running a successful website, not because you don't pay attention to what's going on but because you choose to stick to some extremely skewed view of everything and it prevents you from seeing the big picture. Surely you will take any of what I've said out of context and use it against me but it really is how you operate..

Fletch XXX 02-23-2012 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18776994)

Fletch, will do. Can you tinker around with WP themes? Banners, etc I know you're tops for.

yes. I can code wp templates/themes from scratch if needed but usually people start out with a theme and alter it.

lots of experience with wordpress. just email me whenever you need me. i work php sites every day and have plenty of CSS experience...

Paul Markham 02-23-2012 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 18777425)
Sorry but, those are all entirely, and nothing but... tubes. The headers say tube, the URL's say tube. I'm not sure how much more obvious it can get?

If you are that oblivious then you are honestly wasting your time and money trying to put together a tube site for profit. You really hardly even understand things online let alone running a successful website, not because you don't pay attention to what's going on but because you choose to stick to some extremely skewed view of everything and it prevents you from seeing the big picture. Surely you will take any of what I've said out of context and use it against me but it really is how you operate..

Yes you're right, my mistake. I meant not in a Tube as in not what others are selling. Unless they are the same as others are selling just free. :thumbsup

The big difference is the ability to put in a lot of text, which is what I wanted to do. Still they are Tubes.

Cherry7 02-24-2012 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18776294)
Lies. Post proof.




Paul Markham 02-24-2012 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18777443)
yes. I can code wp templates/themes from scratch if needed but usually people start out with a theme and alter it.

lots of experience with wordpress. just email me whenever you need me. i work php sites every day and have plenty of CSS experience...

Great will definitely hit you up. Seeing those sites there are a few changes, like color and making it transparent, definitely a background image rather than the one color thing. And some other things. Need to get into the idea and get the theme working.

Cherry, I found the thread to keep you and him happy. https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1042759 People can make their own minds up what Damian meant in the thread.

The guy can't even distinguish my content from Michael Ancher's, but to be fair he's not alone.

Prepare for Trolling denials. :1orglaugh

Nicky 02-24-2012 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18776994)
So you need to change the subject to making money to support your debate. Please stick to the subject. Well you have. You agree traffic is easy to get, getting enough to sell something is the problem. It took the brainiacs of online porn to create "bad traffic" as an excuse for 1,000s looking at free porn and not paying. :winkwink:

you are one of a big group who know getting traffic is easy, the hard part is getting enough for one to buy something. Offline porn was never so hard. :thumbsup

If the idea flies you will know.

Yes on a REAL tube a couple of 1000 is easy to get with enough videos. On a wptube theme It's not as easy and you have to put in even more hard work into It. You can say getting traffic is the easy part but creating original content is why you get traffic and thus It should be included as one of the steps of getting traffic. You create the content to get the traffic.

Nicky 02-24-2012 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18777338)
Not traffic because Nicky now agrees with me. All we have to do is get Roald to see sense.

I am? :1orglaugh

Sure It's dead easy to get traffic, you can just buy It. taaaadaaammm

You are clueless as usual, nothing to see here folks.

DamianJ 02-24-2012 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18778396)

Cherry, I found the thread to keep you and him happy. https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1042759 People can make their own minds up what Damian meant in the thread.

The guy can't even distinguish my content from Michael Ancher's, but to be fair he's not alone.

Paul, where do I say what you claim I say in that thread?

Quote the post.

There was an xbiz gathering last night and you came up in conversation, everyone feels sorry for you that lying on the internet is the only thing you can think of to fill your time.

:(

Jack Sparrow 02-24-2012 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18777338)
Young Grasshopper. I will never need to. :thumbsup

What was I disagreeing about? Not traffic because Nicky now agrees with me. All we have to do is get Roald to see sense.

If anyone needs a cup of sense its you.
I cant wait to see your failed tube project :)

Im sure you can blame it on free porn again.

It cant be you off course, because we all know youve got it figured out lol.

Find a hobby dude, seriously, you are to old to adapt, its just dying from now on.

Paul Markham 02-24-2012 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 18778414)
Yes on a REAL tube a couple of 1000 is easy to get with enough videos. On a wptube theme It's not as easy and you have to put in even more hard work into It. You can say getting traffic is the easy part but creating original content is why you get traffic and thus It should be included as one of the steps of getting traffic. You create the content to get the traffic.

So creating the content is hard. So content is king. :winkwink:

Just pulling your leg.

Bottom line is. Getting some traffic is easy. The hard part is getting enough to make a sale or having something good enough to make a sale or posting something great enough to make a sale.

Over the last 12 years everyone has put too much effort into just getting traffic. Usually most low sales questions were answered with "You need more traffic." And the prime method to get "more traffic" was to give away more free porn.

Doubling or trebling traffic numbers never in the long term doubled or trebled joins or revenue. which it should of done. It meant more people just consuming more free content. We now have reached the level of major sponsor turning a prime porn domain into a traffic funnel. With a free Tube giving away more free porn.

And today we need 1,000s of traffic to make a sale over all. some will convert 1-50 that land on their site, some with people who click the button and some will do 13 sales out of 1/4 million hits.

The KING in business, isn't getting millions to walk past your shop window, 1,000s to walk in and brows. Its getting some to buy. Getting millions to walk past your window is the easiest part, affording the premises with sales is the hard part. And if the only method you have of selling is getting a spider to list your site high enough on Google to make a sale. It's a sign of poor salesmanship.

And here's the outcome. This concentration on the traffic game has led us to over pay and value the suppliers and under pay and value the product. Even though there are 100s who can do this job to a good degree. Yet with the product there are far fewer who can produce a product that will really separate them from the rest of the pack. I suspect with many it was simply after the expenditure for traffic not enough was left to employ the best shooters.

I don't know about your sites, so this is general. We all know a lot of great sites, based on the work of great shooters, who usually were attached to or were the site owners.

As has been said, getting a few 1,000 to view some free videos is easy, getting them to buy something is hard. Sad and sorry state of a once booming industry.

Paul Markham 02-24-2012 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 18778420)
I am? :1orglaugh

Sure It's dead easy to get traffic, you can just buy It. taaaadaaammm

You are clueless as usual, nothing to see here folks.

It's still traffic, bought or what ever. Was it so hard for the traffic guys to get it? Can't be if they sell it for a few dollars a 1,000.

Yes I always have an answer. Do you?

Today we're putting on top of our list dumping people onto sites and second is selling to them.

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Paul, where do I say what you claim I say in that thread?

Quote the post.

There was an xbiz gathering last night and you came up in conversation, everyone feels sorry for you that lying on the internet is the only thing you can think of to fill your time.
True in that post you didn't specifically claim that it was or wasn't my content.

Damian, it's up to others to make up their mind why you posted a thread intimating that Michael Ancher's content isn't good enough for Twistys.

Nice to know you guys were chatting about me. "There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about."

DamianJ 02-24-2012 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18778510)
True in that post you didn't specifically claim that it was or wasn't my content.

Cool. I accept your apology.

Paul Markham 02-24-2012 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18778516)
Cool. I accept your apology.

Yes you got me on this one. :Oh crap

*hangs head in total shame and goes to watch TV. Trolling has to stop.*

Nicky 02-24-2012 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18778510)
It's still traffic, bought or what ever. Was it so hard for the traffic guys to get it? Can't be if they sell it for a few dollars a 1,000.

Yes I always have an answer. Do you?
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I'll let you prove how easy It is. get that wptubetheme up and going and get to It old man. :thumbsup

Fletch XXX 02-24-2012 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18778396)
Great will definitely hit you up. Seeing those sites there are a few changes, like color and making it transparent, definitely a background image rather than the one color thing. And some other things. Need to get into the idea and get the theme working.

no problem, all very basic changes and can be done fairly promptly with CSS.

I am always around, icq, email, mobile whatever... just contact me when you get the project details together and consider it done.

Paul Markham 02-24-2012 09:23 AM

Damian was dead right. He never said in that thread it was my content.

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/owned.jpg

He even didn't realise I was just winding him up. :thumbsup

He will come back with his normal retort, saying he never said it was my content. Or something.

Nicky the moment you start saying enough sales to earn a decent living, you and I are on the same page. It takes more than traffic, SEO, refining, guiding, and what ever an affiliate can do. It all depends on when their traffic hits a site. That's where a sale is decided. Not Google, SEO, a blog, etc.

DamianJ 02-24-2012 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18778824)
He will come back with his normal retort, saying he never said it was my content. Or something.

Well, I didn't say that it was your content, did I?

Let's move on Paul. Your thread backfired, you've apologised for lying. Let's just let it go.

I'm sure you've got a jigsaw to walk or something.

:)

xoxox

Paul Markham 02-25-2012 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18778866)
Well, I didn't say that it was your content, did I?

Let's move on Paul. Your thread backfired, you've apologised for lying. Let's just let it go.

I'm sure you've got a jigsaw to walk or something.

:)

xoxox

Yes a nice retort. Wonder what others think.

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/owned.jpg

You can't even tell when a picture is from a top glamor porn producer and just assumed it wasn't good enough for Twistys or OT, because you thought I shot it. It's good enough for Penthouse. But you know best. :upsidedow

Let's not move on, your thread backfired.

Don't you have a pornbeer movie to make.

DamianJ 02-25-2012 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18780347)
You thought I shot it.

Where do I say that?

(Deja vu...)

:)

Paul Markham 02-26-2012 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18780435)
Where do I say that?

(Deja vu...)

:)

Well you obviously posted the thread and tried to mock me, because you knew it was good enough.

Have to go and watch the pigs flying. :1orglaugh

DamianJ 02-26-2012 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18782014)
Well you obviously posted the thread and tried to mock me

Paul, you lied, you can't find a quote to back up your lie, and I'm sorry I keep making you look stupid. If you stopped lying, I'd stop pointing out you're lying. Simples!

Lots of love

Damian

xoxoxo

Gonzodave 02-26-2012 04:13 AM

Paul M. - I promote your stuff and am an honest person. There is only one decent tube script out there - Mechbunny. Go do the maths mate - it will work hard for you across unlimited domains. I use Konrad's script across 100+ domains on 100+ niches and I do alright. Mechbunny's support is also brilliant! Don't listen to the cheapskates! I didn't!

In this world, you get what you pay for! :2 cents:

Paul Markham 02-26-2012 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Gonzodave (Post 18782034)
Paul M. - I promote your stuff and am an honest person. There is only one decent tube script out there - Mechbunny. Go do the maths mate - it will work hard for you across unlimited domains. I use Konrad's script across 100+ domains on 100+ niches and I do alright. Mechbunny's support is also brilliant! Don't listen to the cheapskates! I didn't!

In this world, you get what you pay for! :2 cents:

Thanks Dave. Konrad seems to be getting all the votes.

This idea, which is still being formulated isn't your standard Tube. Some here are so blinkered they can only think of a normal Tube and SEO.

The idea might be something you can get in on. will get the blog tube up, play with it for a while then speak to a few people. You are on the list of people to talk to.

Damian, to be fair you didn't come out and say it was mine. Like most of your posts you insinuate.

What you did say was, I thought it was good enough, you thought this was fucking hilarious and you love it when I talk total bollocks to get a reaction.

Talking total bollocks to get a reaction like piracy is something I will ced to your superior knowledge of.

You sadly weren't bright enough to see the trap I was laying for you. I could of just told you the name of the shooter, chose to let you make a fool of yourself.

DamianJ 02-26-2012 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18782179)
Damian, to be fair you didn't come out and say it was mine.

I accept your apology. Again.

Now, try to stop posting saying I've said things I haven't.

mikebx 02-27-2012 09:04 AM

if you ask me, it's $300 :)


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