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Deputy Chief Command 03-02-2012 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxupdate (Post 18796641)
what vpn i used hide my ass but it was too slow


did you actually use their PAID service? or just the free stuff??

cause you need to pay for a good VPN

I use http://www.astrill.com . They are pretty good , have servers all over the world. Usually videos will instant play no buffer time.

Astrill has a 7 day free-trial so you can check out their service. After that you need to pay. Not very expensive I think it is $60 for a year. They also have 6month and 3month plans. Worth the money if you like watching region restricted videos. :thumbsup

AllAboutCams 03-02-2012 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command (Post 18796643)
did you actually use their PAID service? or just the free stuff??

cause you need to pay for a good VPN

I use http://www.astrill.com . They are pretty good , have servers all over the world. Usually videos will instant play no buffer time.

Astrill has a 7 day free-trial so you can check out their service. After that you need to pay. Not very expensive I think it is $60 for a year. They also have 6month and 3month plans. Worth the money if you like watching region restricted videos. :thumbsup

year i used the pay version of hide my ass still did not work ill give these guys a go
http://www.astrill.com

NewNick 03-02-2012 07:35 AM

This is amusing - Kims techno crime career starts when he is a spotty teen phreaker hacking pbx's and dialling international numbers on his victims phone bills. He has also been convicted of online credit card fraud.

HomerSimpson 03-02-2012 07:39 AM

I have met him...
and he's an asshole...
hope he gets a maximum...

Paul Markham 03-02-2012 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by alextokyo (Post 18796518)
Perhaps the TV shows he likes aren't broadcast in his area, tardball.

Try getting Panorama, Coronation Street, Dispatches etc. in Tokyo, for a start. :321GFY

My God you're stupid.

So if it's not available I can steal it.

I also miss a lot of those programs. Still doesn't make it right to steal them.

Stand in the dock and use that defense. Retard.

Or maybe just a retard pirate trying to justify his stealing. Got a site I can steal your work from?

pimpmaster9000 03-02-2012 08:26 AM

Kim is delusional LOL he thinks if he makes a post arrest movie he will, somehow, make what he did OK. He obviously does not understand how the legal system works and how they first get TONS of evidence against you then they actually raid your house LOL. It does not matter one little bit what he says now LOL

As for his super delusional "access shifting" arguments this is exactly what is needed, a super idiot who will stretch the current outdated laws to the point that they get re-written to effectively protect intellectual property or at least they set a legal precedent with this idiot.

I bet Kim is so delusional that he is now probably planning a "come back" LOL he and other "file sharer" fools would like time to stop and they think the world will never change LOL they think this privacy and freedom of speech shit can be stretched to no end and with no legal consequences... riiiighhht LOL

alextokyo 03-02-2012 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18796801)
My God you're stupid.

So if it's not available I can steal it.

I also miss a lot of those programs. Still doesn't make it right to steal them.

Stand in the dock and use that defense. Retard.

Or maybe just a retard pirate trying to justify his stealing. Got a site I can steal your work from?

As far as Coronation Street goes (which I can't stand, by the way)... how the FUCK can you steal something that's not available, clown? Explain your shit.

The fact is that programs such as Panorama are available online and 100% ad-free, limited only by geographical region. So the only restriction is the location of the viewer. Ultimately, what difference does me buying a $2000 plane ticket make to Channel 4? I'm still British, I still have money in the bank, and I still like their shit. Even a coffin dodger such as yourself understands that downloading Hollywood blockbusters is not exactly legal... but when we're talking about a program that has been made available 100% free, ad-free, from the licensee being restricted to a certain geographical area, you know it's ONLY about bandwidth cost. No? Splain yourself, you ancient T-Rex riding bastard. :321GFY

Channel 4 can afford the bandwidth to dish out their programs for free to some knob gobbling bender in a Soho penthouse, but throw in a few million English speaking jungle apes surfing the web on a 419'ed laptop from a mud hut in Lagos Nigeria and all bets are off. Sites like Megaupload would be doing companies like Channel 4 a favor, if only they weren't charging for access or running ads while Undercover Mosque streams direct to my shitty old laptop in Tokyo.

So the moral of the story is that YOU need not worry, since your content is so shitty that thieves won't take it for $0. :1orglaugh Totally and conveniently ignoring the fact that the lighting is so fucking bad that simply staring directly into the sun is a far-by greater sexual stimulant... some 32 year old 3rd world skank with a Cheshire Cat grin (who you're trying to pass off as 18) sticking her tongue out whilst hovering 2 inches away from the vagina of another 28 year old 3rd world skank is not. Fucking. Attractive. At all.

Your content is fucking shit. :2 cents:

To quote Raquel from Only Fools & Horses... "how the hell do you hope to sell it when the thieves wouldn't take it for free?"

gideongallery 03-02-2012 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18796801)
My God you're stupid.

So if it's not available I can steal it.

I also miss a lot of those programs. Still doesn't make it right to steal them.

Stand in the dock and use that defense. Retard.

Or maybe just a retard pirate trying to justify his stealing. Got a site I can steal your work from?

no moron if it isn't available then it market value is zero

Therefore there is no possible way that you can reduce it market value

therefore it meets the condition of fair use

Therefore as the law explicitly states it is not copyright infringement.

BTW

This is the point about not misrepresenting copyright infringement as theft

In direct violation of supreme court ruling BTW.

You ignore a perfectly legal fair use.

bronco67 03-02-2012 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18796961)
no moron if it isn't available then it market value is zero

Therefore there is no possible way that you can reduce it market value

therefore it meets the condition of fair use

Therefore as the law explicitly states it is not copyright infringement.

BTW

This is the point about not misrepresenting copyright infringement as theft

In direct violation of supreme court ruling BTW.

You ignore a perfectly legal fair use.

there you go again with fair use. That's all you fucking blabber about -- fair use this and fair use that. You obviously don't know what the fuck it is.

pimpmaster9000 03-02-2012 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by alextokyo (Post 18796953)
As far as Coronation Street goes (which I can't stand, by the way)... how the FUCK can you steal something that's not available, clown? Explain your shit.

The fact is that programs such as Panorama are available online and 100% ad-free, limited only by geographical region. So the only restriction is the location of the viewer.

They are limited by geographical region because they only have license to broadcast in a certain area and in a certain way. Real world corporations, who employ billions of people have a silly little thing called "the law" that they must abide by. Emo hippy pirates on the other hand are too cool to make $ and not parasite from society so they do not deal with real world problems, thank god that SOPA and ACTA are just around the corner and the pirate party is about to take a big dick up its ass :thumbsup

porno jew 03-02-2012 09:36 AM

again you show you have zero understanding what fair use is. you are using your own made up definition again. crazy people make up their own definitions if words.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18796961)
no moron if it isn't available then it market value is zero

Therefore there is no possible way that you can reduce it market value

therefore it meets the condition of fair use

Therefore as the law explicitly states it is not copyright infringement.

BTW

This is the point about not misrepresenting copyright infringement as theft

In direct violation of supreme court ruling BTW.

You ignore a perfectly legal fair use.


alextokyo 03-02-2012 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 18797014)
They are limited by geographical region because they only have license to broadcast in a certain area and in a certain way. Real world corporations, who employ billions of people have a silly little thing called "the law" that they must abide by.

Broadcasting and digital downloads are completely different.

Further explanation should not be necessary. :2 cents:

But while we're at it, and just because I have the tiniest microscopic suspicion that you're just a little eensy weensy bit out of touch with reality: please name just ONE single real-world corporation in any industry at all who employs "billions of people". :1orglaugh Hey, no one is putting words in your mouth here. You're the one who wrote it.

No? OK, I'll even take 100 million.

You know what? Fuck it, make that 10 million. 7? 6?

Five point ni... eight?

Bueller? Bueller? :1orglaugh

mafia_man 03-02-2012 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 18795446)
Nothing too shocking. Obviously he wasn't going to go on there and admit that they ignored DMCA. I have a feeling this is going to be one of those legal cases that could take a while to get through the system, however, when it does it could be precedent setting and it could be used as case law for future cases.

AFAIK the argument is:

Megaupload started to de-dupe files in order to save space. DMCA would issue takedown request on 1 links (there could be many for a single file) Megaupload would remove only that link instead of all links to that file.

Not sure where this lands him legally.

RebelR 03-02-2012 10:15 AM

His Defense reminded me of the scene from National Lampoons Vacation, where Clark talks to Rusty about why he was in the pool with Christie Brinkley


Clark: Oh she's just a waitress. I was just ordering some fish for you and uh...
Rusty: Audrey, dad.
Clark: For you and Audrey. Swimming pool waitress...
Rusty: Do you think mom will buy it?
Clark: Good talk, son.

pimpmaster9000 03-02-2012 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alextokyo (Post 18797057)
Broadcasting and digital downloads are completely different.

Yes one is legal and one is theft....

Quote:

Originally Posted by alextokyo (Post 18797057)
But while we're at it, and just because I have the tiniest microscopic suspicion that you're just a little eensy weensy bit out of touch with reality: please name just ONE single real-world corporation in any industry at all who employs "billions of people". :1orglaugh Hey, no one is putting words in your mouth here. You're the one who wrote it.

No? OK, I'll even take 100 million.

You know what? Fuck it, make that 10 million. 7? 6?

Five point ni... eight?

Bueller? Bueller? :1orglaugh

note when I wrote real world corporationS (note the S that indicates plural...as in not singular)...back to my point real world corporationS employ billions of people and pirates are in for a butt fucking what part is out of touch with reality??

alextokyo 03-02-2012 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 18797168)
Yes one is legal and one is theft....

It's not illegal to take something that is being offered for free. Either go back and read what was actually written (understanding should follow naturally) or accept the fact that nothing could possibly ever be free and prepare to spend the rest of your life putting a penny into a jar every time you inhale and/or exhale.

Still having trouble? I can't help you. Steal yourself a dictionary.com entry and look up the word "free", I guess. :1orglaugh


Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 18797168)
note when I wrote real world corporationS (note the S that indicates plural...as in not singular)

You have got to be fucking kidding me. :1orglaugh Keeping in mind that I must've read hundreds if not thousands of Paul Markham posts over the past few years, that is the weakest fucking back paddle I've ever seen. :1orglaugh

Anyway, I'll be back to toy with you landlubbing simpletons in the morning. Gotta get back to my galleon asap to feed my parrot and polish my wooden leg. :1orglaugh

qwe 03-02-2012 10:57 AM

I have a feeling if he just layed low without putting up mafia/drug dealer license plates, paying a ton of celebrities, driving reckless on gumball he would probably still be banking and not in jail....

gideongallery 03-02-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 18797006)
there you go again with fair use. That's all you fucking blabber about -- fair use this and fair use that. You obviously don't know what the fuck it is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18797035)
again you show you have zero understanding what fair use is. you are using your own made up definition again. crazy people make up their own definitions if words.

you two morons make want to look up some of the court cases in canada/EU to see that EXACT logical argument being used successfully.

In fact that the reason why CRIA/MPAA/RIAA asked for the changes that are being proposed in c-11.

To change the laws so that, violating Geographic restrictions would be illegal on it own right.

pimpmaster9000 03-02-2012 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by alextokyo (Post 18797187)
It's not illegal to take something that is being offered for free. Either go back and read what was actually written (understanding should follow naturally) or accept the fact that nothing could possibly ever be free and prepare to spend the rest of your life putting a penny into a jar every time you inhale and/or exhale.

Correction. It is being offered for free to a certain region with a certain license. To air in any other country you must have a license in that country. Broadcasting regulations. Again I stress that regulations are a thing that emo hippies do not have to deal with, because they live in their mothers house and do not have to work or employ people or benefit humanity in any way....I understand your self entitlement and your "being above regulations" delusions...


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Originally Posted by alextokyo (Post 18797187)
You have got to be fucking kidding me. :1orglaugh Keeping in mind that I must've read hundreds if not thousands of Paul Markham posts over the past few years, that is the weakest fucking back paddle I've ever seen. :1orglaugh

The weakest fucking back paddle was your attempt at assuming that I said that one corporation employs billions of people and actually trying to hold me responsible for your own stupid assumption LOL. Don't let a simple thing like illiteracy stand in the way of your ramblings. Also who gives a fuck about how many Paul Markam posts you have read and what the fuck does it have to do with your illiteracy? LOOK:

Real world corporations (PLURAL), who employ billions of people have a silly little thing called "the law" that they (PLURAL) must abide by.

How did you miss 2 plurals in one sentence? Answer: By being illiterate....

porno jew 03-02-2012 11:20 AM

i know you can't read but project your insane fantastical world view on whatever words are in front of your eyes but i said you have a definition of fair use that isn't shared by anyone.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18797224)
you two morons make want to look up some of the court cases in canada/EU to see that EXACT logical argument being used successfully.

In fact that the reason why CRIA/MPAA/RIAA asked for the changes that are being proposed in c-11.

To change the laws so that, violating Geographic restrictions would be illegal on it own right.


Theo 03-02-2012 11:35 AM

He should had taken the company public

mafia_man 03-02-2012 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AVN Theo (Post 18797421)
He should had taken the company public

A multitude of shareholders would have made things more difficult certainly.

DWB 03-02-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18797035)
again you show you have zero understanding what fair use is. you are using your own made up definition again. crazy people make up their own definitions if words.

You quoted Gideon Gallbladder and I foolishly read it. I am now dumber than when I first came into this thread, as is everyone else who read that post.

gideongallery 03-02-2012 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18797298)
i know you can't read but project your insane fantastical world view on whatever words are in front of your eyes but i said you have a definition of fair use that isn't shared by anyone.

That was the opinion of the supreme court of Canada. That not my opinion that was a ruling of law.

moeloubani 03-02-2012 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18795839)
Uh wow. How about you don't watch them then? Ever considered that option?

Sure I considered it, but I wanted to watch them. Am I supposed to ignore an obvious choice which is just to download them and watch them? What's the difference between me recording them when they were on TV, ripping them to my computer and watching them there and downloading them?

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18795877)
So in Ontario you can't afford a DVD recorder that allows you to record the programs. Then you will have to go without and not steal.

See above. What's the difference? I'd be watching the same product but one way I have to spend hours recording and converting and the other I spend about 2 minutes downloading.

How is the company losing any money off of me downloading them? There is no way that I could possibly pay them for the stuff.

xenigo 03-02-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by alextokyo (Post 18796953)
Splain yourself, you ancient T-Rex riding bastard. :321GFY

Paul Markham rides a T-Rex?

http://www.lifestyle-luxury.com/wp-c...x+cars+-+2.jpg

kane 03-02-2012 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 18798825)
Sure I considered it, but I wanted to watch them. Am I supposed to ignore an obvious choice which is just to download them and watch them? What's the difference between me recording them when they were on TV, ripping them to my computer and watching them there and downloading them?



See above. What's the difference? I'd be watching the same product but one way I have to spend hours recording and converting and the other I spend about 2 minutes downloading.

How is the company losing any money off of me downloading them? There is no way that I could possibly pay them for the stuff.

So is the stuff never available to you to buy, or is it just not available right now? There are a lot of TV shows that will air in the US, but not in other countries then eventually they release the full season on DVD and make it available to buy in other countries. Is that the case here or is it never made available to you to buy?

moeloubani 03-02-2012 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 18798860)
So is the stuff never available to you to buy, or is it just not available right now? There are a lot of TV shows that will air in the US, but not in other countries then eventually they release the full season on DVD and make it available to buy in other countries. Is that the case here or is it never made available to you to buy?

No you're right it is available eventually for example Game of Thrones comes on sale on the 6th of March but that's a year after it first started. Between now and then there was literally no way at all for me to watch the show, no service where I could pay for it online or anything. Even HBO.com doesn't have the option for me. I guess I could have used my computer to record it myself when it first came out and then just watched those but really what's the difference? There's still no way for me to watch it online by the way so I would have to wait till March 6th order the DVD/Bluray and then watch it then.

Look at music and iTunes it wasn't long after iTunes started that people realized it was just easier to buy on iTunes than to download illegally. There is no such thing for TV shows which really sucks.

WarChild 03-02-2012 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 18798875)
...

Look at music and iTunes it wasn't long after iTunes started that people realized it was just easier to buy on iTunes than to download illegally. There is no such thing for TV shows which really sucks.

Actually, I believe itunes sells tv episodes too. At least in the USA.

moeloubani 03-02-2012 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18798881)
Actually, I believe itunes sells tv episodes too. At least in the USA.

They do but only some shows, Game of Thrones is an example of one that they don't offer. I'm just saying if there was a way for me to pay for downloading then I would - I already do pay but I have to pay file lockers or Usenet providers instead of paying the people making the content. I pay $130 a month for cable and I pay $9 for Netflix so I'm not against paying for content. I don't care who is getting my money as long as I'm getting what I want for it.

kane 03-02-2012 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 18798875)
No you're right it is available eventually for example Game of Thrones comes on sale on the 6th of March but that's a year after it first started. Between now and then there was literally no way at all for me to watch the show, no service where I could pay for it online or anything. Even HBO.com doesn't have the option for me. I guess I could have used my computer to record it myself when it first came out and then just watched those but really what's the difference? There's still no way for me to watch it online by the way so I would have to wait till March 6th order the DVD/Bluray and then watch it then.

Look at music and iTunes it wasn't long after iTunes started that people realized it was just easier to buy on iTunes than to download illegally. There is no such thing for TV shows which really sucks.

It does suck that it takes that long to get it, but you can't really say that you would pay for it if you could because you can pay for it, you just have to wait a while. What you mean is there is no way for you to pay for it right now.

Waiting can suck, but what a lot of these companies do is use the hype and good reviews that a show like Game of Thrones generated when it played on HBO to build up a demand for it then in places where it didn't air they sell it on DVD and people buy it. If people download it then they likely are not going to buy it when it is available on DVD so even though the show isn't available for you to buy when it is in first run, downloading it can potentially hurt value of the show and the sales of the show.

Do you get HBO where you live and it just wasn't aired there, or is HBO not at all available?

L-Pink 03-02-2012 06:41 PM

A thief by any justification is still a thief.

.

moeloubani 03-02-2012 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 18798894)
It does suck that it takes that long to get it, but you can't really say that you would pay for it if you could because you can pay for it, you just have to wait a while. What you mean is there is no way for you to pay for it right now.

Waiting can suck, but what a lot of these companies do is use the hype and good reviews that a show like Game of Thrones generated when it played on HBO to build up a demand for it then in places where it didn't air they sell it on DVD and people buy it. If people download it then they likely are not going to buy it when it is available on DVD so even though the show isn't available for you to buy when it is in first run, downloading it can potentially hurt value of the show and the sales of the show.

Do you get HBO where you live and it just wasn't aired there, or is HBO not at all available?

I have HBO and it airs here but there's still no way for me to watch an episode when I want. Even HBO Go which offers it isn't available here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18798914)
A thief by any justification is still a thief.

.

Fair enough you can say I stole it but what did I steal from the company? Money? There was no way for me to pay for it. They are out nothing and even if I were going to try to pay there would be no way for me to do it.

kane 03-02-2012 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 18798920)
I have HBO and it airs here but there's still no way for me to watch an episode when I want. Even HBO Go which offers it isn't available here.



Fair enough you can say I stole it but what did I steal from the company? Money? There was no way for me to pay for it. They are out nothing and even if I were going to try to pay there would be no way for me to do it.

Do you have a DVR? My cable box has a DVR built into it. I have the whole season of the show recorded (although it might be available on demand as well) and plan to watch it again before the second season starts up.

moeloubani 03-02-2012 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 18798928)
Do you have a DVR? My cable box has a DVR built into it. I have the whole season of the show recorded (although it might be available on demand as well) and plan to watch it again before the second season starts up.

I have one of those cable boxes too I just never ended up recording it. Just saying downloading it isn't only the easiest option for me - it's the only one.

(Aside from not watching it which I don't see as an option)

L-Pink 03-02-2012 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 18798920)
I have HBO and it airs here but there's still no way for me to watch an episode when I want. Even HBO Go which offers it isn't available here.



Fair enough you can say I stole it but what did I steal from the company? Money? There was no way for me to pay for it. They are out nothing and even if I were going to try to pay there would be no way for me to do it.

I was referring to gideon ... But thanks for making my point. Freetards know they are stealing but feel the need to hide behind elaborate excuses that just make the rest of us shake our heads.

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gideongallery 03-02-2012 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 18798894)
It does suck that it takes that long to get it, but you can't really say that you would pay for it if you could because you can pay for it, you just have to wait a while. What you mean is there is no way for you to pay for it right now.

Waiting can suck, but what a lot of these companies do is use the hype and good reviews that a show like Game of Thrones generated when it played on HBO to build up a demand for it then in places where it didn't air they sell it on DVD and people buy it. If people download it then they likely are not going to buy it when it is available on DVD so even though the show isn't available for you to buy when it is in first run, downloading it can potentially hurt value of the show and the sales of the show.

Do you get HBO where you live and it just wasn't aired there, or is HBO not at all available?

which is the exactly the same argument that universal made when they argued that the vcr should be illegal

you could always wait for the reruns

using your vcr cost them the ad revenue from rerun.

still doesn't explain why you believe the argument is suddenly valid now.

Barry-xlovecam 03-02-2012 07:42 PM

Legend in his own mind ...
No Mia Culpa BLA BLA BLA
I just saved 23 minutes of my life.

Let's see if a Jury buys his bullshit ...

PiracyPitbull 03-02-2012 07:53 PM

ummm, load of.....

http://piracypitbull.com/qwerty.gif

kane 03-02-2012 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18798960)
which is the exactly the same argument that universal made when they argued that the vcr should be illegal

you could always wait for the reruns

using your vcr cost them the ad revenue from rerun.

still doesn't explain why you believe the argument is suddenly valid now.

In all honesty a TV show I don't see as a big deal. If he has HBO and downloads the show, to me it is not different than DVRing it. The same would go if he has cable with AMC and downloads Walking Dead. It is no different than DVRing it.

When I talk about waiting for it to come out I mean if it never aired in that area or you never paid for it to begin with.


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