I thought Supernanny was 60 minutes? :)

true that You WILL regret it.

I've never had to hit my kid and in general am against kids being hit but I sure do get a thrill when some brats mom goes postal on him in the store.

Ignoring all the stupidity Johnnyclips has spewed all over this thread and answering the OP's question:

Discipline starts at a young age. If you tell your child there is a punishment for them breaking a rule and they break the rule, you HAVE to enforce the rule. If you let it slide, they will learn early on that you won't follow through.

Your son is already a teenager and maybe when he was younger, you tried to hard to be his friend instead of his dad. I was kind of guilty of that with my oldest son. With 5 kids, I learned really quickly that you have to follow through with everything you say, good or bad. I was never one for physical discipline. My kids had to stand against the wall and not talk to anyone at all for 15 minutes to an hour, depending on the infraction. It was worse than any spanking and didn't teach them that violence was a meas to an end.

You may have actually done everything right and your kid is just an asshole anyways. It happens. The world is full of kids who are assholes through no fault of their parents. Keep in mind, kids are in school 8 hours per day and around other people. Those people sometimes have more influence than you do as a parent.

If your son is violent, look into a local scared straight program and get some counseling. Sure, he'll probably tell you to go fuck yourself, but let him know you're not asking him to go, you're telling him. If he's under your house, he has to follow your rules. If he doesn't like them, he's free to get a job and pay his own way, then he can do whatever he wants.

My oldest daughter is very strong willed and required a little different means of discipline. For her, taking away her netbook, phone, etc. is a horrid punishment, even worse than death (in her mind). Her punishments are also things like getting her facebook/email passwords changed thereby cutting her off from them (my ex-wife and I have her passwords). She's done the "I hate you" thing, especially lately with my ex-wife (hence her coming back to live with me next school year). She's going to find that she still has rules to follow and there are consequences for not following those rules and they will be followed up with.

The key is to do everything you can do and realize, even though you love your son, he just might be an asshole of his own accord, but you'll have done everything you could. If he uses the threat "there's nothing you can do to me" take him on a tour of a local youth offender facility. Show him what life is like if he's taken away from you and placed in one of those places. It's not glamorous at all.

If you start seeing progress, keep at it. The key is just being consistent. You also have to realize he might make some progress, then backslide. Just be there to love him unconditionally when he does. Any parent who claims to have the perfect child is either a liar or doped up on Valium ;-)

I have great kids that admittedly have had their share of problems, but I'm proud of the fact that they are overall great kids and I did everything I could as a parent to point them in the right direction and instill a sense of pride when they accomplish things.

You have to balance out the platitudes along with the discipline. Focus on their positive things. If your son makes some progress, reward him with praise.

I'm not a doctor or a psychiatrist or "child rearing expert"...I'm a father of 5 great kids who sometimes stumble along the way and I've learned that parenting isn't easy and is full of challenges. I learned that shit in the trenches. You just have to take the challenges on full speed ahead and celebrate when little things go right.

Sorry for being so long-winded, but felt you could use another answer from an actual parent.

I would discipline my children by bringing them to this world ...

This JohnnyClips guy is one of the best trolls I've ever seen.

A few more threads like this and he'll guarantee that Paul Markham doesn't repeat at the GFY Awards. He's already giving Paul a run for his money, between this thread and the "school" thread.

I am a father also, and not really in need of disciplining my son, he kind of imitates me, I am a funny guy, he is a funny boy.

So in other words, 1+1=2. Thanks for that game-changing, revelationary insight, bitch. :321GFY

Have you tried just opening up to him? Let him know where you are coming from as a person? I'm not saying be his friend, but to drop the power struggle one time and have a man-to-man chat with him without judgement or repercussions.

i agree with this

Curious how many kids you've raised?

First of all, this cunt bag JohnnyClips and his side kick GFED are trolling all of you. That being said...

With that mindset, you had better not let you kids play sports. Their coach might "discipline" them and tell them, and retell them how to do something the correct way. God fucking forbid, these kids will grow up hating their fucking parents and all of the human race. Penalties in sports? How harsh! Get rid of them immediately! :1orglaugh

Forget about anything as benign as ballet, tap, crafting, etc. "They might fall down and go boom boom". Once again, God forbid someone tells them that they are doing it wrong or they get hurt and LEARN from their mistakes, these kids will HATE YOU!

If you coddle this next generation the way some of you fuckwads suggest... the way it is going? They will be the most absurd contribution to the human race thus far. Give me a fucking break.

The fact of the matter is that most kids will act out. When they do? They need to be taught what is right from wrong. If that entails a good harsh speaking to, or a swift boot in the ass, so be it. If I ever had a teenager look at my wife and tell her that he hates the woman that is MY wife whom I love... the same woman that changed his shitty ass diapers, bailed him out of trouble, feeds his unappreciative ass, etc? I would fucking backhand that fucking kid and kick his ass out the door so fast it wouldn't even be funny.

The fact of the matter is that in life, there are consequences. For every action, there is an equally yet sometimes more severe reaction. We deal with these crossroads every single fucking day as adults, and kids need to learn that sooner rather than later before they become adults. I know it, and you better fucking know it. If you don't? I wish you the best. Because you are living in Disney Land.

I do not condone whipping the ever loving fuck out of children what so ever. There are approaches that are more effective than straight out violence. I hate to admit it, but sometimes a kid needs a wack in the ass. My opinion, but fuuuuuuck... how many generations existed before JohnnyClips or GFED came around and this was standard practice? THOSANDS, so far so good.

If you let this generation of spoiled fucks walk all over you, while you sit in the corner and cower out of fear for the way they will ultimately turn out, or the law? Fuck you. Sack the fuck up and show them who runs the mother fucking game. It's not them.

Harmon... out.

Please remember Johnny Clips is functionally retarded. There's no sense trying to teach him anything.

If you understood the definition of "discipline," which has been posted multiples times, you would understand that it has nothing to do with being a savage animal or brutality.

I just don't know what else to say to you. I'm really at a loss in getting this concept through your head.

Yeah, I'm getting that. I can't help but keep trying, though. It's like an addiction. I guess this is a result of my parents giving me boundaries when I was a kid. Perhaps if there hadn't been consequences for my actions, I could refrain from wanting to strangle my computer when I read his posts. It's all my parents' fault. Damn their rules and instructions and proper parenting.

I am just taking a shot in the dark, but I am guessing you were repeatedly raped and beaten as a child. I feel bad for you. GL kid. From what I gather, it will get better. The hemorrhoids will subside. Get some Preparation H.

Rules and consequences. "Consquences" does mean punishment, but neither mean violence or brutality.


Rules and consequences. You know, sort of like the laws that you abide by in your everyday life, and if you break them you get a fine or jail time.

Don't bother, follow my link and he is gone forever. He is trolling.
https://gfy.com/profile.php?do=addlis...gnore&u=127353

You are a fine example of someone that's obviously mentally unstable and has anger issues. You, and your type of people is what creates violent adults. You're arrogant and pompous... an imbecile. You're rude, and it's obvious your parents failed when raising you.

If there's any hair splitting, it's mine from me pulling it out of my head.

First, you need to separate violence/brutatlity/force (in the manner you're using it)/hitting/etc. from discipline. Discipline can be obtained without any of those.

Rules/laws are not only in effect to teach right from wrong, but they also help maintain order. There's a law that says which side of the road you should drive on. If not, everyone would drive every which way and there would be accidents. So laws were put into place to guide people. Break that law (and put people's lives at risk) and there are punishments. This has absolutely nothing to do with being raised peacefully or not. So fuck that argument of yours.


"Violence begets violence." I don't disagree with that. But proper discipline is not violent. Also, being raised peacefully doesn't always mean they will turn out peaceful. I don't recall any stories of God beating the shit out of Adam, or Adam beating his kids. By your theory, all of their descendents should have continued the "raise peaceful, they will be peaceful" concept, which would have resulted in one big happy fucking world. That turned out nicely...:disgust

Fucking kid. Someone ban these tools. I would butt fuck your ass until it bled the tears of Jesus. Good luck selling your Warcraft account.

Rated "T" for teen. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

how do you expect them to confirm to a society full of rules and punishments for not following rules? not that i expect a real answer from such a troller..

Ok, I almost NEVER put anyone on ignore, but after reading Johnnyclips posts for the last year, and now the ones on this thread, I've realized that there is absolutely nothing that this guy has to say that I need to hear. He's either an utter moron, or an utter troll.



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I've never put anybody on ignore either. Might be looking at a first here.


I'm heading out the door to take my son to his Tae Kwon Do class. Can't miss it, he has a belt test this weekend. Besides, why would I want him to miss something that teaches him self-control, discipline and respect, among other things?

Please, keep this thread going! I want a good laugh either later tonight or tomorrow morning when I come back to the computer.

I approve of this method 100% :thumbsup

Growing up I got a smack to the face or a foot up my ass. Either way I got the hint real quick!

and i guess it would also make mental illness and other disablities instantly disappear too. go back to your pokemon forum, kid.

You are argueing with someone who thinks aliens live in the center of the earth. You might as well be banging your head against the wall. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

how many advice givers here have kids?
we are trying to deal with a 2.5 year old who thinks he is Genghis Khan reborn.

shut up dumb dumb.

being disciplined by the cat after pulling its tail is the best one liner in this thread. I would quote it but since i am not a webmaster I do not know how.

Bingo. :thumbsup

:1orglaugh Thanks! :) :thumbsup

He does like his trolling :1orglaugh

I have a 4 and 5 year old. I'd like to think we've been pretty successful up to this point.

How you deal with conflict will ultimately determine the quality of your relationships.
Communication is the only tool worth using... aside from a well placed hug.

If you even have to raise your voice, step back and think. theres always a better way next time.

Try to figure out why he is talking back to you. Humans do not snap at one another for no reason. There is obviously something going on in his life that is causing him to stress out and verbally attack you. Chances are, you'll never find out what it is though.

Instead of asking yourself why he has to hate everything you love, see if you can take an interest in things he loves instead. That may make him feel closer to you and thus less likely to attack you.

You won't get anywhere with discipline.

If I had a kid and I don't see that happening, I'd put him to military school. I had never gone to military school though.

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