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NewNick 03-19-2012 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18832421)
And George Bush as well

Santorum is right there
You are likening George Bush and Santorum to the biggest mass muderers of all time ? Sure Bush was a twat and he went to war in Iraq, but he really is small time. Santorum ? a murderer ? well its far fetched but I am sure you have some evidence to back this up ?

Your grasp of history (and reality) is really remarkable.

Please tell me where you have gleaned all this from.

:1orglaugh:helpme:1orglaugh

NewNick 03-19-2012 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18832449)
And let's not forget the one who ordered that atomic bombs be dropped on Japan

Yes, Bush is responsible for millions of deaths. Just because it's wrapped in propaganda does not change the fact. Its the same type of people http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War
So Hiroshima and Nagasaki did actually happen ?

Why do you believe that ?

Is this not propaganda to make the world fear American power. God you are so naive. Do you believe all of the lies they feed you ?

:1orglaugh


:1orglaugh

xholly 03-19-2012 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18832206)
How could the Holocaust have happened the way history says it did? There'd have to be THOUSANDS of people involved. It DID NOT happen the way they said it did. Just the media's spin
out of curiosity have you ever read a book in your life? you know with real paper pages? for the enjoyment of it or to learn something new.

MaDalton 03-19-2012 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18832421)
And George Bush as well

Santorum is right there
:error :error

and i am really no fan of GWB

NewNick 03-19-2012 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18832523)
So millions of Iraqis and Afghans haven't died since the invasion? Or did I miss something?

Yes it appears you have missed lots of things.

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

These guys are not lovers of US foreign policy. But they put the count at less than 150k.

Saddam Hussein was thought to have murdered approx double that amount during his tenure. (this is not a pro war argument - just offering some balance)

So wars under Bush which had some degree of justification have resulted in many deaths of civillians and combatants, whereas Mao and Stalin murdered millions of their own people in work camps and through starvation in order force their political ideology on to the people of their own country. The higher estimates put the figures for Mao at 5-8m people. Stalin 25m+ people.

So you can make a point putting Bush in this company, although I think again you belittle the sacrifices of the millions of victims of Mao, Stalin, and Hitler.

How many victims are attributed to Santorum ?

NewNick 03-19-2012 10:17 AM
How many victims are attributed to Santorum ?

2012 03-19-2012 10:21 AM
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NewNick 03-20-2012 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18832621)
Again you're completely missing the point

If elected president, there will be a lot

Not sure what point I am missing.

You said that George Bush and Santorum are in the same league as Mao and Stalin in the mass murder body count.

So please tell me :

a) How many people has Santorum killed so far ?

b) Why will Santorum being elected president result in him becoming a mass murderer.


:helpme

NewNick 03-20-2012 02:53 AM
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DarkJedi 03-20-2012 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 18832289)
Jesus - there were thousands of people invovled, there was hundreds of thousands of people involved. There are documented witness statements by the truckload from survivors and those that participated. The buildings still exist. The mass graves still exist. The paper trail of Nazi bureaucrats signing the orders still exists.
Where are all these hundreds of thousands of people? The buildings say nothing, Auschwitz was a work camp with a cinema, swimming pool, hospital and dental facilities, library, a post office and a brothel. The prisoners died from work labor and various disease.

The labor camp ovens could have handled no more than 50 people per day. It takes 6 hours on average to fully cremate a body. It was simply impossible to cremate so many people. And the "gas chambers" were installed by the jews after the war.

Its bad enough they interview people who were 1 or 2 at the time and somehow they give amazingly vivid accurate descriptions of what happened at the time.

NewNick 03-20-2012 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkJedi (Post 18834165)
Where are all these hundreds of thousands of people? The buildings say nothing, Auschwitz was a work camp with a cinema, swimming pool, hospital and dental facilities, library, a post office and a brothel. The prisoners died from work labor and various disease.

The labor camp ovens could have handled no more than 50 people per day. It takes 6 hours on average to fully cremate a body. It was simply impossible to cremate so many people. And the "gas chambers" were installed by the jews after the war.

Its bad enough they interview people who were 1 or 2 at the time and somehow they give amazingly vivid accurate descriptions of what happened at the time.
You believe this ?

Or you is just a trollin ?

Cherry7 03-20-2012 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkJedi (Post 18834165)
Where are all these hundreds of thousands of people? The buildings say nothing, Auschwitz was a work camp with a cinema, swimming pool, hospital and dental facilities, library, a post office and a brothel. The prisoners died from work labor and various disease.

The labor camp ovens could have handled no more than 50 people per day. It takes 6 hours on average to fully cremate a body. It was simply impossible to cremate so many people. And the "gas chambers" were installed by the Jews after the war.

Its bad enough they interview people who were 1 or 2 at the time and somehow they give amazingly vivid accurate descriptions of what happened at the time.
I have visited Auschwitz several times, there is no swimming pool but there are gas chambers and crematories and the ashes of millions of people in the surrounding fields. Bodies were also burnt in pyres in the open. This was a death camp.

Where did all the Jews, Gypsies, Communists, POWs go ? Did 6 million people hide just to help build a lie for people like you ?

DarkJedi 03-20-2012 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 18834176)
Bodies were also burnt in pyres in the open.
Do you realize how stupid this statement sounds?

NewNick 03-20-2012 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkJedi (Post 18834201)
Do you realize how stupid this statement sounds?
I dont think it is stupid.

Witness staements from surviving Sonderkommando testify to this being the case.

Photographic evidence can be viewed.

http://www.imagechunk.com/images/aus...80_cropped.jpg

The Nuremburg trials went though this in considerable detail. Lots of high ranking Nazis admitted their part in the Holocaust. There is an enomous body of evidence which suggests millions of men, women, and children were murdered in the death camps built by Nazi Germany yet you choose not to believe it.

Why ?


:helpme

DarkJedi 03-20-2012 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 18834217)
There is an enomous body of evidence which suggests millions of men, women, and children were murdered in the death camps built by Nazi Germany yet you choose not to believe it.

Why ?
Where is this "enormous evidence"? Link?

NewNick 03-20-2012 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkJedi (Post 18834221)
Where is this "enormous evidence"? Link?

Now I know you is just a trollin.....

Because even you know how to use google.

Lets start here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust for some light reading on the subject.

Its reasonably concise with hundreds of links to the different references.

At the foot of the page there are links to a couple of hundred different books written by esteemed academics. When you have done here let me know and I will happily suggest some more sources.

I dont suppose reading is your thing though, so here are some piccies.

http://www.imagechunk.com/images/220...n_may_1945.jpg

http://www.imagechunk.com/images/ein...en_killing.jpg

sperbonzo 03-20-2012 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 18834256)
Now I know you is just a trollin.....

Because even you know how to use google.

Lets start here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust for some light reading on the subject.

Its reasonably concise with hundreds of links to the different references.

At the foot of the page there are links to a couple of hundred different books written by esteemed academics. When you have done here let me know and I will happily suggest some more sources.

I dont suppose reading is your thing though, so here are some piccies.

http://www.imagechunk.com/images/220...n_may_1945.jpg

http://www.imagechunk.com/images/ein...en_killing.jpg
He's obviously just trolling. NO ONE can be this obtuse.



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NewNick 03-20-2012 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18834319)
George Bush has surpassed guys like Hitley and Satlin and Mao...not even in the same category, he's on a whole new level. It's the same type of personality and consciousness level these guys are at. If you don't agree with them, then they are willing to kill you or lock you in a cage. And then claim how "moral" and religious they are. All for simply disagreeing with them or living a life different to there's. How do you not see this?
You clearly know nothing about Mao or Stalin.

I would not be surprised if you were in nappies when Bush was was power.

You know fuck all about the matter. Prick.

Hitley and Satlin. You cannot even spell their names never mind grasp the horrors that they unleashed.

:1orglaugh

globofun 03-20-2012 07:46 AM
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Nazi thread saved! :thumbsup

DarkJedi 03-20-2012 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 18834256)
Now I know you is just a trollin.....

Because even you know how to use google.
How am I trolling? You yourself posted about "enormous evidence", I just asked where it was.

Quote:
Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 18834256)


Lets start here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust for some light reading on the subject.
A Jew-operated website. Yes, that's quite a credible source indeed.

http://www.darksidedata.com/rolleyes.gif

NewNick 03-20-2012 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18834358)
There is not much evidence at all

I'm not saying that people weren't killed but the whole ridiculous story of "Hitley hated Jews so he rounded all them up and threw them into ovens so the American heroes had to come and stop them" is absolutely fucking retarded and insults my intelligence


So you dont believe the Holocaust to be true because you are too smart ?

You know more about the subject than people who have dedicated their whole lives to the study of how and why the holocaust happened.

To deny the Holocaust because you are anti-semetic and you believe the Holocaust to be a Jewish conspiracy is a vaild (yet equally ridiculous) argument, but to deny it because you are too clever to believe such a far fetched story is arogant beyond belief.

How do you decide what is true ?

You believe that American planes dropped Atomic weapons on Japanese cities, but you dont believe that Nazi Germany commited genocide.

What is the thought process that says one is true, and the other a made up story to glorify America ?

:helpme

NewNick 03-20-2012 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18834333)
You were PROGRAMMED to associate the names Hitler and Stalin to evil....but not Bush. Gee I WONDER WHY?! They are all the same...mass murderers on a scale so absurd that's it's almost impossible to believe

I believe that Hitler and Stalin were mass murderers because I studied this period of history.

Have you ?

:1orglaugh

porno jew 03-20-2012 08:16 AM
johnny is a low grade moron. hitler would have had him and his family sterilized.

NewNick 03-20-2012 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18834401)
And George Bush too...or does that somehow not count? Because of propoganda?
I am not a fan of either of the Bush presidents - but whether you like it or not they are not in the same league as Hitler, Bush and Mao.

Sorry but you show how uneducated you are by suggesting this.

:1orglaugh

NewNick 03-20-2012 08:34 AM
Has the ban hammer fallen....?

xholly 03-20-2012 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 18834416)
I am not a fan of either of the Bush presidents - but whether you like it or not they are not in the same league as Hitler, Bush and Mao.

Sorry but you show how uneducated you are by suggesting this.

:1orglaugh
you havent read any of his posts yet newnick?

He thinks aliens rule the world and live in a hollow earth, education is a waste of time, science is the same as religion and all history is fabricated.

he's kinda entertaining as either a troll or as a total know nothing moron who you can laugh at, just don't take him too seriously.

xholly 03-20-2012 08:40 AM
I think Bush and his neocon crew are war criminals though. Just that johnny has no idea.

Far-L 03-20-2012 08:54 AM
Homegrown Video... part of the Illuminati?
 
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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18834441)
Propaganda really is something :2 cents:
So you are somehow "informed" and "aware" and "know" things the rest of the world is too "programmed" to realize... shouldn't you be saving us from the Matrix or something?

Not kidding. Neo needs your help. Humanity, or what is left of it is seriously at risk.

btw.. Wise move using a porn board for your operations to help free us all from our own ignorance.

porno jew 03-20-2012 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18834471)
Just don't impose your beliefs and values upon me through FORCE.
did your daddy use to?

sperbonzo 03-20-2012 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 18834465)

btw.. Wise move using a porn board for your operations to help free us all from our own ignorance.
That's because he picked the red pill. If he had chosen the blue one, he would be able to use slightly better information outlets...



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Far-L 03-20-2012 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18834471)
Not helping or telling anyone what to believe. :2 cents:

Simply spreading the truth. You have the right to live your life how you see fit. Just don't impose your beliefs and values upon me through FORCE. Violence is NEVER the solution and should NEVER be an option. Nothing good comes out of violence or from the use of force no matter what the intention is.
Ok, so for the record, because someone has to keep track of these things...

Violence... bad. (unless perhaps someone is trying to kill you for no good reason at all... but then just enough to get by I suppose or otherwise it gets excessive)

Force... bad. (except in certain cases like trying to open a jelly jar with a really tightly sealed lid)

Authority... bad. (who wants to ever listen to someone that assumes they know more than you do, that shit just gets old)

Society... bad. (yeps, couldn't stand cliques in high school either so that one isn't too hard to grasp)

Government... bad. (who needs it when anarchy would be so much more fun because you can do whatever you want when you want to and nobody can tell you you can't; that just sounds awesome!)

Am I good so far?

All we need now is a solid anthem.

Cherry7 03-20-2012 09:58 AM
A person has to come the the sad conclusion that some people are too stupid or uneducated to have a rational debate with.

6 million Jews were murdered, just go to any Jewish family and politely ask them about their history. You won't have to ask many before you will have your first hand evidence of industrialized mass murder on a scale unique in history.

NewNick 03-20-2012 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 18834569)
A person has to come the the sad conclusion that some people are too stupid or uneducated to have a rational debate with.

6 million Jews were murdered, just go to any Jewish family and politely ask them about their history. You won't have to ask many before you will have your first hand evidence of industrialized mass murder on a scale unique in history.

I dont normally agree with you - but it takes monumental stupidity to think that the holocaust did not happen. Especially for the reasons this joker is spouting.


:thumbsup

CaptainHowdy 03-20-2012 10:21 AM
I never happened ...

NewNick 03-20-2012 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18834611)
1 million+ Iraq people were murdered. How do you think they feel?
Doh !!!!

NewNick 03-20-2012 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18834614)
No one ever said the Holocaust didn't happen

All we are saying is that it did not happen like "history" says it happened, similar to 9/11, Gulf of Tonkin, etc. :2 cents:


Johnny boy - there is a mountain of evidence to support the mainstream version of the Holocaust. Of course the winners write the history, but the rise of Nazi Germany, the ensuing war, the Final Solution, it happened pretty much as described by the history books. To deny it makes you look ridiculously stupid or some kind of anti-semite.

Of course the winners gloss over their mis-deeds, but WWII was one of the very few genuinely righteous wars. In Europe and in the Pacific agressive totalitarian regimes were happy to dish out cruelty beyond belief to the people and lands that they invaded. Free democratic countries fought these regimes to the bitter end and 50m people died in the conflict.

For you to rewrite all this in your head is and declare yourself to be the arbiter of "the truth" is incredibly arogant.

:2 cents:

porno jew 03-20-2012 10:52 AM
great PHILOSOPHY johnny!

Far-L 03-20-2012 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18834623)
Why would someone try to kill you for no reason at all? Let's address the root cause of the problem. If children are raised peaceful, then I don't see why someone would want to kill you for "no reason at all"?

The initiation of force = violence

Authority = hierarchy which is the worst thing you can have in society and in any other possible scenario. Why is not all the information and knowledge available to anyone and for anyone who wants to access to it?

Society is a joke. If it defines who you are, then you are a tool plain and simple. Live your life how YOU want, not how OTHERS say you should live it.

"Government" is a small group of people given the monopoly of force to do whatever they want to do. They are useless and everything they touch turns to absolute shit. People should be free to live THEIR life how they see fit without a bunch of idiots IMPOSING their will upon them :2 cents:
Sounds like you have given this a lot of really deep thought. I think I will just go along with whatever you are saying... wait... no way! I am not going to let you be the authority on this! Who's with me?

Fuck.

Can't ask for consensus because that would be just too close to becoming a "society" and we can't have that leading to Government... because the next thing you know people will be demanding the Ban Hammer of censorship.

Fuck.

We are all screwed.

porno jew 03-20-2012 11:36 AM
johnny is the AUTHORITY on ANTI-AUTHORITY!

his paradoxical nature is fucking my mind up!!

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 03-20-2012 11:46 AM
Present day Germany seems to be doing quite nice...

http://www.bestmotivationalposters.c...nal-poster.jpg

I hear the crabs and lobster are delicious this time of year. :)

ADG


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